BahamaRed
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Not seen Brwnd for a while.......whats the suicide count so far?
Not seen Brwnd for a while.......whats the suicide count so far?
Coming from a man that killed his entire family just to prove a point!Sweet Jesus.
I would. We'd be losing the greatest footballer of our generation. Our Maradonna, our Pele, our Best. That would upset me.
Messi's good for sure. He rang rings around us. Smooth Operator. But to me Ronnie's got it all. I can't believe he can get better. If he just stays the same it'll be a miracle. If he leaves us his world will change and football will become secondary to him. It's his call.Not sure I agree with that, I believe the little Argie at Barca will eventually prove he's that player. But they're probably the two stand out players of this current generation. Some would add Kaka, I take more convincing I'm afraid. Great player, but he's significantly the easiest of the three to keep quiet in a game with some tight marking. Three players could mark Messi and it still not be enough!
Forever Red, when this happened in 2006, I was a fair lone voice. Because of the Rooney incident, England turning against him, United fans rallied round. And great to see. But his comments then pissed me off, I'm not at all suprised at how events have turned out. But I hope he see's sense and just accepts he's not going anywhere even if he wants too, shut it and give it his all next season again
Well maybe its reaction like this from supporters thats making him even consider moving ...The lad has his reason for saying what he has said to the media but we all jump on our high horses and think the worst of him. For all he has done season after season I think he deserves some respect. I am sure all his antics has nothing to do with him not loving United. After all is said and done and he gets his deal that he is negotiating he should make a statement to the supporters exlaining certain aspects but still that might not be enough. As BahamaRed said he is our Pele, Maradona and I now see why he is so upset over this entire issue. What I cannot understand is why a player is judged so harshly when they decide to move to another club...if he ants to go let him go..on good terms obviously. I know its has a lot to do with loyalty but can't we just appreciate them for what they have contributed when they were at United instead of getting nasty and deny the fact that he is one of the best number 7 we have ever had. Maybe I am being too sympathetic but seriously this is how I feel about the whole issue...not forgetting he has never said I want to leave United
Well maybe its reaction like this from supporters thats making him even consider moving ...The lad has his reason for saying what he has said to the media but we all jump on our high horses and think the worst of him. For all he has done season after season I think he deserves some respect. I am sure all his antics has nothing to do with him not loving United. After all is said and done and he gets his deal that he is negotiating he should make a statement to the supporters exlaining certain aspects but still that might not be enough. As BahamaRed said he is our Pele, Maradona and I now see why he is so upset over this entire issue. What I cannot understand is why a player is judged so harshly when they decide to move to another club...if he ants to go let him go..on good terms obviously. I know its has a lot to do with loyalty but can't we just appreciate them for what they have contributed when they were at United instead of getting nasty and deny the fact that he is one of the best number 7 we have ever had. Maybe I am being too sympathetic but seriously this is how I feel about the whole issue...not forgetting he has never said I want to leave United
Think I agree with most of that (except for the labour government bit)How can an adverse rection which he himself was the catalyst for be justification for these actions?
Look, people dont like being messed about. You say he deserves respect for what he has given the club, but has it given him nothing at all in return?
There are ways of handling matters, leaving a club if it comes to it, what has occurred not thus far is not the best of way to go about such things.
Who cares about money when you are as rich as he, surely at his level the currency is winners medals or a good cause for hope of them in the near future.
If he wants to go elsewhere to make his mother happy, satisfy a dream, confront a new challenge, i can respect that those things as much as i might think his timing is not in our interests. But if it be money, no. And all this carry on, not at all.
As i've said before my hunch is that he will stay at least one more season, however from a public relations PoV the situation has been fudged on a magnitude that the Labour government would be proud of [okay well naybe tha is a slgiht exageration ].
Madrid just wont stop. I just cant believe they just dont care if they look like idiots or whoring themselves over Ronnie. That club is just not right and the way they try to get deals for players is ridiculous.
ALEX FERGUSON is expecting Cristiano Ronaldo to confirm he is staying a Manchester United player.
And the Portugal winger would not be allowed to leave even if he wanted to go.
Fergie insists there is no way his star player will be signing for Real Madrid.
The United boss said: “I’m very confident about that. It’s a game Real play all the time. In the past they’ve done it with David Beckham, they’ve done it with Van Nistelrooy, they’ve done it with my fitness coach last summer — so we’re used to it.
Well, isn't that worrying? Exactly where did these three guys end up?
I think its all about us enjoying him so much that we're getting rattled that he may be leaving. It really is like a wife saying she might be leaving, "maybe 2-3 weeks, maybe 2-3 days.....I'll make a decison then".
Yes you can say, well fk you, go now....but if you really love her you'll, well, freak!
Difference is that Fergie wanted to sell... unlike RonaldoALEX FERGUSON is expecting Cristiano Ronaldo to confirm he is staying a Manchester United player.
And the Portugal winger would not be allowed to leave even if he wanted to go.
Fergie insists there is no way his star player will be signing for Real Madrid.
The United boss said: “I’m very confident about that. It’s a game Real play all the time. In the past they’ve done it with David Beckham, they’ve done it with Van Nistelrooy, they’ve done it with my fitness coach last summer — so we’re used to it.
Well, isn't that worrying? Exactly where did these three guys end up?
There's that in the thread but there's also a fair amount of triumphant gloating from people who "always knew" that he wasn't to be trusted and are looking forward to the chance of deriding the Ron-lovers and who are actually hoping to see a Ron-less team sadly for the sole purpose of demonstrating (they hope) that Ron wasn't really that important.
I like the wife analogy enough that I'll twist it even further though. Let's imagine that wifey is well aware, based on information from the many ex-wives you've discarded, that you'd drop her as soon as she loses her looks or gets too stroppy. We're asking for loyalty (in thoughts and words as well as in action) from a player who's seen his mates get sold and who's been sold a few times himself - it's not exactly a normal love affair.
where is this thread?? I'd love to tear into these muppets
where is this thread?? I'd love to tear into these muppets
Surely Tatton Hall would be more appropriate?Let's move his mum to England, put her up in Buckingham Palace and move the Queen out for the time being
They are probably a damn sight closer to the truth than we are; surely we should afford them a bit of respect and let them get on with looking after the players, even if we can pick better starting elevens.i reckon Fergie and CQ are more pissed at Real for trying to unsettle him, than at Ronaldo, and i am too.
Well out of order. Glazer, yes, Mummy Ron, no.Or just hope she passes away pretty soon. What kind of mother wants her son to give up his life when he is as happy as he's ever been? Egoistic cnut, move to England.
Ronaldo didn't get himself banned for not pissing in a bottle and have the club stand by him while he was feck all use to us for months on end.To be fair, there can be no excuses for Ronaldo.
Every fan who's gone to our games this year has given him everything, fans have bought the united shirt and got his name on the back...kids idolise him...Sir Alex supported him and he's being messed with by Ronaldo AGAIN. We fecking made him the player he is, and he shouldn't fecking forget that before spending '2 or 3 weeks' messing around with the club, and the fans.
True, this is all about Money, and holding out for a better deal from United, but Rio got shit for this, so why shouldn't Ronaldo?
I fully believe he is very happy here, but we've just won the European Cup for feck sake. We should be concentrating on enjoying what the club has achieved and looking forward to next season, and Ronaldo has tainted the winning feeling through this bullshit and refusal to flat out state his position.
Giggs, Nev and Scholes command respect; there's a distinct difference and certainly that's what sets them apart from some of the prima dona twats in the Prem these days.I don't like his attitude. As soon he's away from Old Trafford, he becomes a cnut. Fergie keeps him in check, I reckon on international duty he thinks he's queen fecking bee whereas at United players like Giggs, Neville and Scholes are the ones to look up to and demand the respect.
Why did Ronaldo choose AFTER the EC Final to become so undecisive? In my opinion, it's because he doesn't have to face Fergie and co in training the next day.
I love the lad on the field, in a United shirt. I've defended him continuously against allegations of diving, not performing in big games etc. He is without a doubt the best in the world at the moment and I really do hope he stays withus, which i think he will...but questions have to be asked about why such a fuss has been made, based on his very own comments. If it's for money.... he shouldn't have signed a new contract. If it's not and he's staying, it's been purely for attention. If he's going serious questions have to be asked about his loyalty and credibility.
This whole saga could easily have been avoided by the player, if he wanted it to have been.
As reliable as Marca then eh?And on that note i'm off to bed
laters peepz
http://www.[B]thesun[/B].co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1238271.ece
Still bitter at your username? Sheesh.Anyone got some rope, I'll go first....
Or just hope she passes away pretty soon. What kind of mother wants her son to give up his life when he is as happy as he's ever been? Egoistic cnut, move to England.
That's the way I see it anyway. He's sat on the fence for long enough now. It's either us or them now. But in case you can see a different outcome please do share it with us.
At least I don't expect him to reveal that he suffers from polydactylism
Im not concerned by the current situation...just curious to what roonie could possibly want to say. Fergie will not sell, especially after what he's come out and said. He doesnt lose players he doesnt want to unless the russian mafia get involved!!!
If ronaldo did want to leave it makes no sense for him to come out on the eve of the european championships and say i want to leave. Just attracts turmoil to the portugese set up and big phil for one wouldnt allow him to make a public announcement saying i want to leave..the timing is all wrong.
so in conclusion he's coming out to put it to bed and let the portugal side focus on the euro's. my only slight thought is that takes about a second to say so why not just say it? Lets hope they are negotiating a secret contract extension!
Im not concerned by the current situation...just curious to what roonie could possibly want to say. Fergie will not sell, especially after what he's come out and said. He doesnt lose players he doesnt want to unless the russian mafia get involved!!!
If ronaldo did want to leave it makes no sense for him to come out on the eve of the european championships and say i want to leave. Just attracts turmoil to the portugese set up and big phil for one wouldnt allow him to make a public announcement saying i want to leave..the timing is all wrong.
so in conclusion he's coming out to put it to bed and let the portugal side focus on the euro's. my only slight thought is that takes about a second to say so why not just say it? Lets hope they are negotiating a secret contract extension!
As reliable as Marca then eh?
Im not concerned by the current situation...just curious to what roonie could possibly want to say. Fergie will not sell, especially after what he's come out and said. He doesnt lose players he doesnt want to unless the russian mafia get involved!!!
If ronaldo did want to leave it makes no sense for him to come out on the eve of the european championships and say i want to leave. Just attracts turmoil to the portugese set up and big phil for one wouldnt allow him to make a public announcement saying i want to leave..the timing is all wrong.
so in conclusion he's coming out to put it to bed and let the portugal side focus on the euro's. my only slight thought is that takes about a second to say so why not just say it? Lets hope they are negotiating a secret contract extension!
So when's the lad going to reveal the mysterious decision?
Real Madrid's No7 plans may wreck deal for Man Utd star Ronaldo
tribalfooball.com - June 03, 2008
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon's intention to retire Raul's No7 shirt when the club captain eventually hangs up his boots could lead to Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo rejecting a move to the Santiago Bernabeu.
Calderon wants to retire Raul's No7 in recognition of his success with Real during his career and confirmed his plans last week.
However, it's unlikely Ronaldo's management will look kindly on the prospect of the Portuguese running around with anything but No7 on his back. The United star's multi-million pound merchandise rights lean heavily on his 'CR7' brand and the player, himself, admitted only this week he hoped to open a hotel known as 'CR7'.
Calderon said: "We do not know if he (Ronaldo) will join us. But Raul won't have to change his number. He is untouchable."
Could it be that Ronaldo has matured SO much, that he is deliberately getting the focus onto himself to give Portugal peace and quiet to prepare for the Euros? And at the same time keeping the vultures away from Gill and his entourage as they are making the signings of Ramos, Casillas and Benzema?
Wow, that is the most optimistic post I've ever posted
Could it be that Ronaldo has matured SO much, that he is deliberately getting the focus onto himself to give Portugal peace and quiet to prepare for the Euros? And at the same time keeping the vultures away from Gill and his entourage as they are making the signings of Ramos, Casillas and Benzema?
Wow, that is the most optimistic post I've ever posted
2 days.
(which is the new "2 weeks"*)
*(c) G Neville Esq.