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'Ronaldo has got a contract that lasts until 2012, he's a valuable member of the team and that's the situation,' said Gill. 'Obviously there are some issues there, but that's for Alex and it's why Alex had the meeting with the player; to discuss things and put our point of view. I'm sure Cristiano put his point of view and hopefully we can move forward. But without doubt, there could have been clarity earlier on, shall we say.
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There's the doubt in his words. It is not set in concrete yet.
Only United's position has been clarified. I wouldn't worry about the wording jojo. I'm sure the same words have been said to Ronnie.

Both the Ronaldo interview and the Gill statements only seem to confirm that there is still doubt "and only God knows what will happen"
 
'It was suggested that Ronaldo's aim was a new deal, but I don't think it was necessarily that and if the figures bandied about that Real Madrid are talking about are true, we wouldn't go anywhere near that. That would be lunacy.'

So Gill does not think it was all about him getting an improved deal either.
 
KeyserSoze said:
'It was suggested that Ronaldo's aim was a new deal, but I don't think it was necessarily that and if the figures bandied about that Real Madrid are talking about are true, we wouldn't go anywhere near that. That would be lunacy.'

So Gill does not think it was all about him getting an improved deal either.
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WeasteDevil > Gill
 
reddevilcanada said:
er, you're the one who keeps playing this 'Top Red' born and raised United bullshit and disrespect others' views based on this by questioning their loyalties. Ronaldo's behaviour hasn't been good towards us, but he's done a hell of a lot for us and there's been a lot of bullshit printed and spouted by the media. You however have been carrying out your own personal vendetta against Ronaldo, and I'm not the only person to have observed that in this thread.
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I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own observable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own overservable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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Yup, that's about the crux of it.
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own overservable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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Brad, your posts in this thread have consistently been for the most part, spot on. Well said.
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own overservable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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Spot on Brad
 
BahamaRed said:
Got some dressing up to do then?

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What song are you doing?
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own overservable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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I never said he's been acting like a saint, he's been doing his bit to keep the whole thing unsettled. It was his dream to move to Spain, he almost did in 2006, but came back to England where he was teh most hated figure and helped us to back-to-back titles and a European cup. His achivements far outweigh the contribution of Heinze because he has been much more important to our success than heinze was. I'm not condoning his behaviour nor do I think those who criticize him are in the minority, but I don't like the way you're carrying out your personal vendentta either calling those who don't criticize him as much as you 'CR7' fans who care more about Ronaldo than United. And then coming back with the Top Red card of being born and raised United so what you say must be true since 'we don't care first and foremost about United' :wenger:
 
Brad said:
What they're responding too is Ronaldos own observable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move
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Exactly. Nothing has changed. He's still at it. From the second he flip- flopped on the "I stay" he's been at it. We basically knew United's stance before Fergie went to meet him so nothing new there. We know nothing new about Ronnie.
 
reddevilcanada said:
I never said he's been acting like a saint, he's been doing his bit to keep the whole thing unsettled. It was his dream to move to Spain, he almost did in 2006, but came back to England where he was teh most hated figure and helped us to back-to-back titles and a European cup. His achivements far outweigh the contribution of Heinze because he has been much more important to our success than heinze was. I'm not condoning his behaviour nor do I think those who criticize him are in the minority, but I don't like the way you're carrying out your personal vendentta either calling those who don't criticize him as much as you 'CR7' fans who care more about Ronaldo than United. And then coming back with the Top Red card of being born and raised United so what you say must be true since 'we don't care first and foremost about United' :wenger:
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Are you suggesting there is a sliding scale of how shit a player can treat the club based on how good a player he is? Because I would bet SAF would disagree.
 
so what if ronaldo wants out. we're bigger than being held ransom.

i personally think he should get a lucrative contract. better he get the money than the glazers pocket the extra quid.

its clear that fergie has enough control on the squad that the ronaldo situation won't affect us.

ronaldo is also too much of a professional and he is too driven to let his performances on the pitch drop. If he is forced to stay here another year, he'll keep doing what he does best on the pitch, and then just agitate for a move in a year's time.

Either way i'm not too bothered about it. keano and rio both rocked the boat to get paid more.

the only differnce is ronnie wants out to real madrid. big fecking deal.

imagine how spurs feel that both their strikers want out. this happens to all clubs.
 
WeasteDevil said:
Why do you not support Rochdale Brad?
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I was brought up to support United Weaste, I was born into a United family. A split extended family actually, as the other half are City supporters. I was taken to my first United game, back in the mid 80's when it wasn't really the done thing, as a very young kid. I don't know anything other than United

Regarding Dale, I actually had season tickets for Bury FC for a few seasons, due to my dads work and their sponsership of the club. I was actually mascot for them in an FA Cup game, at which Sir Alex patted me on the head and told me 'well done son' :D. Bury won and faced United in the third round, losing 2-0. I only started watching Dale the times I couldn't go to OT, which was often because of the cost and the distance living in Dale. But I love football, and am happy watching it at all levels

Why do you ask?
 
WeasteDevil said:
I hope that all of you attacking him are going to either boo him if you are there or you will all not support him for the rest of next season. This is gayer than winker gate.

You're a fickle load of tossers.
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I don't think there are many on here(or at least not among the semi-sensible contingent) "attacking" him, Weaste. Pointing out what most of us perceive as his poor behaviour, yes. Saying that he should treat the club with more respect, yes. I'm not saying the guy isn't a wonderful footballer, or hasn't contributed massively to our success, but his behaviour has been poor IMO. Good performances can never be enough to forgive disrespecting the club and SAF in such a way.

And no, I wouldn't boo him. I wouldn't boo any United player. I would support any player lucky enough to pull on the red shirt. That doesn't mean I have to have any warmth for him.
 
WeasteDevil said:
fecking hell Bradley, he really wanted to go to the scousers and had his position threatened by Evra, this is quite different.
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You're quite right, it is different, Ronaldos position in the team isn't threatened, and he really wants to play for Madrid :rolleyes:
 
brophs said:
Are you suggesting there is a sliding scale of how shit a player can treat the club based on how good a player he is? Because I would bet SAF would disagree.
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No, Rio's piss test feck up, Cantona's kung fu kick and Keano's challenge on Harlaand were all selfish acts that harmed the club. But you don't simply compare Cantona and Rio's actions and say they were both cnuts, do you? It's not that black and white.
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own observable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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he wanted to go to liverpool, plus never liked him much mate. he was a bit shit. funny how the support can love a player so quickly if he slides around on his arse to tackle left and right (examples: heinze and smith).

player going to liverpool is different than a player wanting to go to any other club.

i still maintain that if you were a professional footballer at madrid and united were in for you, u'd agitate for a move or slap in a transfer request. 99.5% of us would if we were in ronnie's situation.

a related thing would be when people slag of sharpey for partying too much. people need to get off their fecking high horse. getting that kind of money in your 20's and having load of girls love you..of course you'd be clubbing as much as you could and have 3 brasses a night. sorta same thing here. ronnie wants to play for a club and area he likes more so he's pining for a move. just like we would all be if we were somewhere else and united were in for us.

one thing is for sure. if he is here next year, he'll still pour his heart out onto the field because he is ultra-driven on the pitch and will not let his performances drop.
 
reddevilcanada said:
I never said he's been acting like a saint, he's been doing his bit to keep the whole thing unsettled. It was his dream to move to Spain, he almost did in 2006, but came back to England where he was teh most hated figure and helped us to back-to-back titles and a European cup. His achivements far outweigh the contribution of Heinze because he has been much more important to our success than heinze was. I'm not condoning his behaviour nor do I think those who criticize him are in the minority, but I don't like the way you're carrying out your personal vendentta either calling those who don't criticize him as much as you 'CR7' fans who care more about Ronaldo than United. And then coming back with the Top Red card of being born and raised United so what you say must be true since 'we don't care first and foremost about United' :wenger:
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It's not where you're from Reddevil. It's where you're at

If you've been a frequent reader of this former, you might have seen the many times I've defended the right of people born overseas and away from Old Trafford. Such that it irritates me during discussions like this, people like you start getting so defensive and accuse me of being a 'top red'

The fact is this. I can't understand anyone who doesn't have a fundimental problem with what Ronaldo has done this summer, the things he's said, the way he's acted. And you associate yourself with those people when you say things like 'we should appreciate all that he's done for us'. Well, right now, I don't see him appreciating anything we've done for him. I fearcely defend this club, and anyone who does anything to damage it. And Ronaldo is damaging it right now, and I'll bloody well say so. I don't care how good a player he is, he has precisely no right to be doing what he's doing
 
WeasteDevil said:
You have zero proof of that.

Show me him saying that he wants to play for Madrid, come on......
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What he said

brophs said:
Show us the proof he wants a new deal, as you keep saying. Come on......
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The proof for him wanting to go to Madrid is all through this thread and has been all over the TV in interviews, how you can argue this is truely beyond me, so much so I am beginning to wonder whether this is just some elaborate wind up from you as I actually thought you were smarter than this.
 
brophs said:
Show us the proof he wants a new deal, as you keep saying. Come on......
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I don't have any, apart from the fact that he hasn't said that he want to move, just always says "I don't know what the future is", which implies that he is playing the game. Other than that, it's all speculation which leads nobody anywhere. Until he says that he wants to move would it not be sensible to just accept the status quo instead of 17,000 posts of hysteria and 2 and one and a half million views over nothing? Talk about carbon footprints, this thread is horndous in that regard.
 
RedNome said:
The proof for him wanting to go to Madrid is all through this thread and has been all over the TV in interviews, how you can argue this is truely beyond me, so much so I am beginning to wonder whether this is just some elaborate wind up from you as I actually thought you were smarter than this.
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He hasn't said that he wants to go to Madrid, this is the point, you are all imagining things that are not there. Madrid have said that they would like to sign him, THAT IS ALL! Talk about 1 + 1 and coming up with 3 or sometimes 56.
 
WeasteDevil said:
He hasn't said that he wants to go to Madrid, this is the point, you are all imagining things that are not there. Madrid have said that they would like to sign him, THAT IS ALL! Talk about 1 + 1 and coming up with 3 or sometimes 56.
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:lol: Oh Weaste

I guess all those folk on death row who still haven't categorically stated an admittance of guilt were totally innocent eh
 
WeasteDevil said:
I don't have any, apart from the fact that he hasn't said that he want to move, just always says "I don't know what the future is", which implies that he is playing the game. Other than that, it's all speculation which leads nobody anywhere. Until he says that he wants to move would it not be sensible to just accept the status quo instead of 17,000 posts of hysteria and 2 and one and a half million views over nothing? Talk about carbon footprints, this thread is horndous in that regard.
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I agree with you to a point. We don't really know anything 100%. However I would say that looking at all of his/his agent's/his mammy's utterances in the press, there does seem a very good chance he wants a move.

Accepting the status quo would be ok, except that most of us believe the goalposts are being shifted behind the scenes. Therein lies the frustration. We can only interpret what we see and read in the press, which of course comes with an agenda.

The problem for us is we don't know what happens behind closed doors, and can only speculate. As you rightly say, speculation doesn't achieve anything, but then we're fans. For a lot of us this is how we get to talk about Manchester United without boring our better halves to tears.
 
WeasteDevil said:
He hasn't said that he wants to go to Madrid, this is the point, you are all imagining things that are not there. Madrid have said that they would like to sign him, THAT IS ALL! Talk about 1 + 1 and coming up with 3 or sometimes 56.
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:lol:

He doesn't fecking need to, it's obvious to any sane person on here, ffs most of us on here who are against your point of view are fairly rational, what I would call level headed posters normally, so unless we are all fecking stupid, including 90% of the external fan base too (estimate), maybe it could actually be you who are deluded here.
 
Brad said:
:lol: Oh Weaste

I guess all those folk on death row who still haven't categorically stated an admittance of guilt were totally innocent eh
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To be fair, most of them would have required solid evidence rather than some open-to-interpretation interviews to be convicted. Don't think you'll find any inmates on death row due to some newspaper articles and their continued silence.
 
"The possibilities [of moving to Real] are great, but as I've always said it doesn't depend only on me. In the next few days we will see if we can arrive at an agreement. I have many desires and in the next few days they will become clear

"Its a dream, A STEP FORWARD"

"I agree with the President, he is right"

"You know what I said, what I want and what I would like,"

"There is no agreement with Real Madrid and I still don't know where I will be playing next season,"


Does this sound like a person thats wants to play for us next season ?
 
WeasteDevil said:
You have zero proof of that.

Show me him saying that he wants to play for Madrid, come on......
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Saying he wants to play for Madrid would be deemed as putting in a transfer request - which would lose him Millions, and alienate the fans even further.

Hence, his ambiguity.
 
Brad said:
It's not where you're from Reddevil. It's where you're at

If you've been a frequent reader of this former, you might have seen the many times I've defended the right of people born overseas and away from Old Trafford. Such that it irritates me during discussions like this, people like you start getting so defensive and accuse me of being a 'top red'

The fact is this. I can't understand anyone who doesn't have a fundimental problem with what Ronaldo has done this summer, the things he's said, the way he's acted. And you associate yourself with those people when you say things like 'we should appreciate all that he's done for us'. Well, right now, I don't see him appreciating anything he's done for us. I fearcely defend this club, and anyone who does anything to damage it. And Ronaldo is damaging it right now, and I'll bloody well say so. I don't care how good a player he is, he has precisely no right to be doing what he's doing
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like I've said, I don't think he's handled the situation all that well either but I also understand that he's not an English lad who was dreaming of playing for United when he was growing up as a kid. He's always wanted to play in Spain, everyone knew this and expected he might push for a move eversince 2006. But somehow some people can't seem to handle this, the fact that a portugese winker who knocked our beloved england out of the world cup and sent off Rooney can have the audacity to 'want a move' to his dream club. There's a difference between defending United whilst understanding the whole situation and seeing the bigger picture and simply calling for his head when he's considering a move away from Old Trafford whilst questioning everyone's loyalty because they're not calling him CUNT1111 like the rest of the pack. I personally don't like the fact that he's wanting to leave considering we're the team who've made him the player he is and I hope he stays for a bit longer and I believe it would be the wrong move for him given the squad we have at United, but I don't go around questioning people's loyalties if they don't agree with me entirely.
 
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