I swear to God, if they try this with Anderson there'll be blood
We don't know him ofcourse but he seems ...well, a nicer person then Ronaldo. I can't imagine him coming out with this 'future' bullshit.
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We don't know him ofcourse but he seems ...well, a nicer person then Ronaldo. I can't imagine him coming out with this 'future' bullshit.
completely agree with you sam. Great post.
12/07/2008 19:00
Cannavaro Slams Blatter Over Ronaldo
Real Madrid defender Fabio Cannavaro has publically criticized FIFA president Joseph Blatter for his statements on the Cristiano Ronaldo matter...
The FIFA president did not hesitate to compare Ronaldo's situation to modern slavery as the British outfit are willing to do everything they can to retain the services of the Portuguese ace despite endless approaches from Real Madrid, most of them through the press.
Cannavaro has played down Blatter's statement, saying that "talking about slavery nowadays are big words."
Although Ronaldo would be a quality asset to his own squad, Cannavaro acknowledges that the Manchester United star should stay out of this summer saga.
"When you sign something, you should fulfill it," Cannavaro concluded.
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He's going to be in the s*** with Calderon.
Cannavaro Slams Blatter Over Ronaldo
Real Madrid defender Fabio Cannavaro has publically criticized FIFA president Joseph Blatter for his statements on the Cristiano Ronaldo matter...
The FIFA president did not hesitate to compare Ronaldo's situation to modern slavery as the British outfit are willing to do everything they can to retain the services of the Portuguese ace despite endless approaches from Real Madrid, most of them through the press.
Cannavaro has played down Blatter's statement, saying that "talking about slavery nowadays are big words."
Although Ronaldo would be a quality asset to his own squad, Cannavaro acknowledges that the Manchester United star should stay out of this summer saga.
"When you sign something, you should fulfill it," Cannavaro concluded.
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He's going to be in the s*** with Calderon.
well the good thing is, we are without The cnut til end September. Will give the side a chance to produce a new style of play with Rooney, Berbatov & Tevez up top (look goods IMHO!!).
Then let the fecker rot in the stands and play and train with the reserves. play him in a dead rubber in Europe and then, we can sell him in January. Thats what I would do.
Cannavaro's in trouble. Brave lad.
If we sell the player - we give them what they want AND we run the risk of them ALWAYS pulling this shit on us.
If we keep the player, we use him - he produces on the pitch (and he would), and then we get rid.
Or maybe he sees the light and wants to stay
Putting him in the reserves (would the reserve players thank you for that?) is detremental to the morale of the squad and shouldn't happen.
If he's at the club, he should clearly play. Forget this slavery bullshit. The guy can't even expand on his point, because he doesn't have one.
Everyone knows it's daft and yes a slight on the club - but you tell me one person that actually believes him? It won't effect anyone as most people would think it bollocks. if anything it's more a slight on Ronaldos character
The point is do we want to do madrid any favors? If they offered the money we want, then it'd be different but they haven't even made a bid.....
I get the feeling that the players with influence at Madrid such as Cannavaro, Raul, Guti want this to go away now as much as us.
Real have been cowards in this. Creating this whole situation and not even having the bollocks to make a bid. Ri-di-cu-lous! How can he be a slave if no one makes a bid for him?
Ronaldo who?
If Ballague is to be believed (not that he is the most reliable source) they can't even afford 50 million
If we sell the player - we give them what they want AND we run the risk of them ALWAYS pulling this shit on us.
If we keep the player, we use him - he produces on the pitch (and he would), and then we get rid.
Or maybe he sees the light and wants to stay
Putting him in the reserves (would the reserve players thank you for that?) is decremental to the morale of the squad and shouldn't happen
The point is do we want to do madrid any favors? If they offered the money we want, then it'd be different but they haven't even made a bid.....
let the fecker rot in the stands and play and train with the reserves. play him in a dead rubber in Europe and then we sell him in January.
Thats what I would do.
well its certainly going to cause some interesting tensions .... He needs a certain type of game to be successful .... and I cant see how he can be successful withy Ruud and Raul. Theer is just not enough fluidity in that 3some for it to work ... so which ego will concede?
Its a pity for Ronaldo that we will have to make an example out of him. He is trying to disrupt the integrity of the game and we cannot allow that to happen. What Sir Alex is doing is right. Get him back to Manchester as soon as possible and let him know that he's goin nowhere. Playing him in Europe would really make Real Madrid suffer for their arrogance.
He wants United to instigate the move, so he would not lose his bonuses, and gives Real a hold over negotiations.
That would put a cloud over the team, which could intern effect our performances.
Additionally if you were going to sell, you'd sell now. Why in jan? Madrid won't offer more money
how much are the bonuses worth?
The guy is 23 and will make a tremendous amount of money. Are people saying the reason he's not handed in a transfer request is because he'd lose out on bonuses - and yet he really really really wants to go to madrid.
But he won't push it because he'll lose out on bonuses...the multi-millionaire with shops in portugal, how many houses? Oh and he's 23 and he will earn a heck of a lot with commercials and what not in the future.....
So rather then hand in a transfer request - giving madrid power ...he'd rather stay silent because he's lose his bonuses...the multi- millionaire who's despirate to join madrid....
..something don't sound right in that to meIf he's telling the truth about the extent of his injury would he not have an problem at his fitness test?
So the most likely time for a transfer is the next transfer window. Unless they skip some parts of the test, and take out insurance.
If Madrid can afford him, which I am starting to doubt, then they would take him regardless and take out insurance. We took the same risk with Rooney.
well as been's said hargreaves passed his when he had that word i can't spell
and woodgate passed his when he went to madrid. If it's not a serious injury, I think they would pass him fit without reservation as it's such a complicated transfer that's worth alot to themSo The cnut has his confidence and his game affected.
So The cnut has to be in Manchester everyday til then
So I and the rest have the opportunity to tell The cnut exactly what I think of him at OT.
So The cnut cant play in Europe for Real this year
So we make a stand for all clubs that Real cannot have what they wany when they want it
So we show all our other young hopefuls that there are consequences when you do not honour ypour word.
So I can feel abit better.
Enough reasons?
I see that Blatter is still agitating for the 6+5 proposal and is boasting that it was agreed by over 300 votes in the Sydney vote.
How would this play out with Madrid? How many Spaniards have they got in their first team? Whats Platini's angle on this?
How would this play out with Madrid? How many Spaniards have they got in their first team? Whats Platini's angle on this?
The Glazers got balls and now, if it's to be believed,
Cannavaro got balls.
Respect. Any one in the football world with sense has to be abhorred by Bladder's statement and Ronaldo's agreement with it.
Cannavaro got balls.
Respect. Any one in the football world with sense has to be abhorred by Bladder's statement and Ronaldo's agreement with it.
No. We should leave it to Sir Alex. If that's the course of action he takes Sam i'll back it 100% because he's the man in the know. He does what he thinks is best for the team and we should be able to live with that.
Yes, he's got it wrong at times in the past but not often. So let's just see what he thinks. Unfortunately that'll take time
The way I see it if Bayern can dig their heels in and say no to a club like us for a year over Hargreaves even when he wanted away, we should be able to do the same, force him to stay here for a season then let him do what he wants. We'll look like idiots if we let him go this summer after everything we said.
50/60/70 Million pounds is too much money for any principle in football business. I don't see why United have to lose so much money to make a stand for the rest of the footballing world - especially when we have massive debts.
I'd let Chelsea carry out the protest with Lampard and Drogba.
I'd let Chelsea carry out the protest with Lampard and Drogba.
agreed.
SO... Can't complain with that
Not if he doesn't want to be here.
always liked cannavaro. A real player. with great leadership qualities. not surprised he's come out with this. and dont reckon he'll be bothered what calderon thinks. fair play to the lad. pity ronaldo has'nt his class
To be fair, I remember a quote on similar lines from SAF some while back.
But instead you're typing crap on Internet forum.
Not exactly....
my point is Fergie will put the team first and Ronaldo will play as long as he does the business on the pitch even if he hates his guts.
Not necessarily Phil. I remember Stam getting sold even though it was detrimental to the team.
SAF can be so stubborn at times...
True. Besides when the season starts and Ronaldo gets back into our style of play, he will love english football again.
But I don't recall SAF ever saying Stam wouldn't be sold. (and actually since then he has said he regrets selling him so will surely learn from his mistake)
SAF has said Ronaldo won't be sold, even willing to place a very large bet on it. I can't see SAF going back on his word, he doesn't usually, no matter what Ronaldo says or does.
I'd certainly accept that Blatters initial remarks were 'scripted', because as Striker has already said in this thread, they echo the same comments, with mention of the word 'slavery', that Calderon had stated weeks earlier. People will probably remember Fergusons comments to that, when he slagged off Madrid and accused them of double standards under Franco rule.
My memory of Ronaldo is that he was just peering over a wall in what appeared to be a place he was staying. When he's kept his silence for most of the last 2 months, to keep the saga and pressure rolling, it seems bizarre that he'd suddenly just give an off the cuff response to the press in such a way. There was clearly some degree of orchastration going on
Regardless, whichever idiot advised him to say such comments, assuming he didn't do so before taking advice which in this day and age of agent involvement does seem like fantasy, really didn't forsee the consequences
Your point being?
Hopefully, he gets it into his head that Manchester United is the best team in the world, and the team IS built around him and his strengths. Deep down I know he cares more about his football than the money, so it could be a sad a day when he wakes up in sunny Madrid, and realizes that the grass isnt greener on the other side, as Madrid are a revolving door or presidents and managers, I mean look what happened to Beckham while he was there, he was nothing more than a pawn(one that made Madrid a lot and I mean a lot of money)
Why should that bother you.... Infact why are you making it bother you. Ronaldo is hardly a guy not to give 100% and it's not like his team mates are going to turn on him!! He will still be playing for the best club in Europe on merit, he'll just have to wait until we are ready to sell him or someone is ready to pay us what he is worth!!
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