Ronaldo
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ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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its a bit of both to be fair
In his first season with the club, the likes of myself and Cnut said that he would stay 3 seasons at best and then bugger off to Spain. Quite a few disagreed, arguing that he would go on to become a fan and not want to leave. When we reached over 3 seasons and he started talking about the desire to go on and become a legend at the club like Bobby Charlton, even the likes of me began to come around to the notion that he may stay longer. I revised my estimate to the fact he would leave by the time he reached 27. Frustration started boiling over for fans when he clearly said after the cup win "i stay", then revised that to "i will make a statement in 3 days", then revised it again to "i will make a statement after the euros" to the point we're at now where he believes he is a slave. Im sick of it, its worse than the Beckham circus was
we should have been wise to it though. Players from that climate dont hang around England all of their career. So many set themselves up for a big fall by believing everything but this simple fact
He has acted the cnut though ever since we won the CL. Does he not know that their are such things as sun beds?
Sorry but that is how it is at the moment
If he scores 40 goals again next year for us, the X will need to be removed imo
First off, we're keeping him even if he has to be locked up here till the transfer window closes.
For me, it has alwyas been his behaviour and not the act of leaving, still isn't. I might think Ronaldo a tad hasty in moving to Spain but i understand it and wouldnt' hate him for it.
Most of us are surely not so arrogant as to believe and take such offence to a player looks elsehwere, particularly in a case such as this.
As GB said above, it ahs been on the cards and was simply a questionof when and not if. I fear a minority had persuaded themselves of the latter.
An analogy i used earlier in the thread about some people's reaction to all this was this:
Would you hate a piranha if it was to bite your ahdn after you'd stuck it into its pond? Its habitat?
As long as he does not stick it back on himself by demanding to move.
First off, we're keeping him even if he has to be locked up here till the transfer window closes.
For me, it has alwyas been his behaviour and not the act of leaving, still isn't. I might think Ronaldo a tad hasty in moving to Spain but i understand it and wouldnt' hate him for it.
Most of us are surely not so arrogant as to believe and take such offence to a player looks elsehwere, particularly in a case such as this.
As GB said above, it ahs been on the cards and was simply a questionof when and not if. I fear a minority had persuaded themselves of the latter.
An analogy i used earlier in the thread about some people's reaction to all this was this:
Would you hate a piranha if it was to bite your ahdn after you'd stuck it into its pond? Its habitat?
Yes but what gets me mad is remembering how Fergie said on TV that he'd got the nucleus of a great young team all signed up for the next few years and he was excited to see how it developed. If Ronaldo goes, his plans are jeopardized if not ruined. It must be sickening for him and he does not deserve this in the golden years of his career.
Ronaldo is ill advised, his agent is doing the advising. His agent also stands to gain up to 10 million if he goes to Madrid Ronaldo should have told the first reporter that asked him about the interest from Real Madrid(even though he wants to play there some day) that he is very flattered by their interest, and has always admired them(how?)if that is true. But that he is very happy where he is at the moment, currently playing for the European Champions, and that he also has a contract to fulfill, and who knows what the future will bring. Next question. And he should have stuck to those answers anytime such a question was raised. It seems though, that Ronnies brains are like teflon where common sense cannot stick. His agent is working with his agents best interests.
)if that is true. But that he is very happy where he is at the moment, currently playing for the European Champions, and that he also has a contract to fulfill, and who knows what the future will bring. Next question. And he should have stuck to those answers anytime such a question was raised. It seems though, that Ronnies brains are like teflon where common sense cannot stick. His agent is working with his agents best interests.I really don't care if ronaldo goes to madrid, i won't hate him for it. But why we all here are pissed off is because of his slave remark , and him not making a proper transfer request. Plus we can get couple of good young player if ronaldo decides to leave under our terms.
what if Ronaldo get injured for most of next season SAF plan will then be ruined anyways. We cannot rely on one player, there are already many stars in our team who have to step up and deliver in his absence.
Yes it is unfair and Fergie may thin he is owed better than this, however he is logn enough in the tooth to have exepected this sooner or later.
He'll be looking for Nani to mature and push on this season, Anderson too. It's a bit much to find a Ronaldo replacement at the right stage of their devlopment in the next six weeks but given the proper prep, next sumemr should be more than possible.
It is a bit much to say that they are ruined i think, and if we can hold on to Ronnie for one more season it will lessen the set back and afford us teh breathing room that we might need to adapt.
This squad still has the makings for years to come.
Agree, we have a fantastic squad, and Ronaldo is making a major mistake. Real Madrid used to be fantastic shortly after United lost all their players in Munich
. But they are certainly not very fantastic now.WEll saidRonaldo is ill advised, his agent is doing the advising. His agent also stands to gain up to 10 million if he goes to Madrid Ronaldo should have told the first reporter that asked him about the interest from Real Madrid(even though he wants to play there some day) that he is very flattered by their interest, and has always admired them(how?
All due respect to you and all but as much as one faction in here have been extreme in over-reacting to the signs and developments throught this, you in my experience have been the opposite, seemingly not able to accept that anything is occurring here at all.
The better, is to have your eyes open and an on the whole
The first part's fair enough and I'll answer it fairly. Firstly, he aint going anywhere because we're not selling so a lot had better get used to it. Secondly, I don't take his meanderings as anything near serious. He's a 23 year old immature idiot who's being used by others such as Calderon and the grubby, sensationalist press forever on the lookout for anything that will hurt us. What he's said is nothing different to what he's always said. I'm far from convinced (evidently like Calderon) that he actually, fully, wants to go. A lifetime in business teaches you to be sceptical of face value, you read between the lines and judge the character of the person and get an idea of the way they are likely to react in given situations. He's naive and immature, and since he left for the Euros, surrounded by people pushing him into the decision they want which coincides with his 'dream' He's not convincing me, there's something missing, probably something simple, like making a transfer request for which he's had ample time and could have done without facing Fergie. I bet Fergie wants him back, allright, but not for the shit that most of you lot think, to make sure that everybody has to go through him first in order to get at Ronaldo. Watch it change then. That should also answer your second paragraph.
Fergie coy on Blatter
Sir Alex Ferguson refused to comment on Fifa president Sepp Blatter's view that United's refusal to sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid was "slavery".
Blatter's sentiment, one with which the Portugal international agreed, caused more stir in the summer of tension between the two clubs.
Asked for his opinion, after a 2-0 friendly win over Aberdeen, Ferguson said: "We're here to talk football."
Sir Alex Ferguson refused to comment on Fifa president Sepp Blatter's view that United's refusal to sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid was "slavery".
Blatter's sentiment, one with which the Portugal international agreed, caused more stir in the summer of tension between the two clubs.
Asked for his opinion, after a 2-0 friendly win over Aberdeen, Ferguson said: "We're here to talk football."
You underestimate Ronaldo's intelligence.
You are all along assuming SAF will whisper sweet nothings in his ears, and it will be happy ever after. The fact is he wants a move, anything else will be a compromise.
What happens if he still wants a move after a meeting SAF?
Not sure if this has already been posted..
His still staying atleast 1 more season, so whether we like him or not his not going nowhere for now!! To be honest i'm far from carrying, don't see why i should and would still support him if he was here for another season!! The more i get to watch Ronaldo at United is hardly a downer for me...
some more...
Well, that's tough on Ronaldo because from what we know, we aint selling. but I'm not as convinced of his limited meanderings as you lot. There's a lot missing from him, which even Calderon knows, hence his 'bums rush'. I think you overestimate Ronnie's IQ and, certainly, his maturity and knowledge. Who said anything about 'sweet nothings'? It's business as usual with Fergie but they'll have to go through him, first, and they won't. Ronnie can't make a decision and he'll be happy to have it taken away from him by Fergie.
What I can't tolerate are the stupid reactions on 'ere from people playing right into Calderon's hands. Stupid wankers!
Fergie is being very clever into not getting in a direct war of words with Blatter or Platini for the matter.
Both of them attacked United in order to get some media coverage, still the "We're here to talk football", says a lot about Bla Bla Blatter
Maybe we should just give him the benefit of the 40,000 doubts
So, everybody thinks Ronaldo is wrong other than Calderon, Bladder, fjred, Rooney gr8 and obviously Instant Karma.
Fergie is being very clever into not getting in a direct war of words with Blatter or Platini for the matter.
Both of them attacked United in order to get some media coverage, still the "We're here to talk football", says a lot about Bla Bla Blatter
Blatter and Platini will not be in their positions much longer unless football has lost it's way
Ronaldo is playing a joke
He'll come back in a couple of weeks and release "Only kidding !! gotcha !"
He'll come back in a couple of weeks and release "Only kidding !! gotcha !"
Thats what I was thinking reading those... no independent person has come out and said they think he should move apart from Platini & Blatter of course (but I'd question their motives, particularly Blatter)
Well, to be honest I much rather watch someone who has pride putting on the Red jersey than eleven Ronaldo's. When players have no heart to play for United they mean nothing to me - Van never existed for me after the FA Cup tie at Anfield. Ronaldo's first hint wanting a move was enough for me to cross him off my list of United players.
After watching United beat his former club Aberdeen 2-0 in a pre-season challenge at Pittodrie, Ferguson was asked if he had any comment to make on Blatter but the Scotsman replied curtly: "No, we're here to talk about football."
Let's not forget that during his election build-up, Platini claimed that he is inspired by Jacques Georges - the Frenchmen who kicked English clubs out of Europe in the mid-80's ...
It seems that being anti-British pays in UEFA and FIFA elections, maybe that's why Blatter and Platini are dishing out this crap at this time of the year - they know their popularity is dwindling down and they're trying to do something about it...
If he done that I would imagine he would have a worse fate than he will have.
They are blatantly anti- Premier League, I dont think I've ever heard either say anything positive about English football..
Furious Ferguson snubs showdown with Real target Ronaldo
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has pulled out of a planned showdown with Cristiano Ronaldo in Lisbon tomorrow.
Ferguson was angered and disappointed by Portuguese superstar Ronaldo's comments on television when he appeared to agree with FIFA chief Sepp Blatter's suggestion that United were treating him like a slave.
Sir Alex was due to fly to Lisbon for what would have been the first meeting between the pair since the furore about 23-year-old Ronaldo's links with Real Madrid blew up in the European Championship finals.Tomorrow's get-together had been regarded as vital to clear the air and bring the Madrid saga to an end.
Instead, Ferguson will stay in Manchester to push ahead with his attempt to sign Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov and supervise the squad departing on Wednesday for a threematch tour of South Africa. According to a source close to the club: 'The manager was hoping to sort things out with Ronaldo but that will now have to wait until the team get back.'
United's interest in 27-year-old Berbatov was revealed by the Mail Online last January when an initial inquiry about the Bulgaria international received little encouragement from Spurs. But Ferguson is still keen and though a bid of £20million has been rejected, Spurs could be more responsive if the offer reached £30m.
Ronaldo's attitude has hardened United's resolve to make him honour at least part of the three years left on his contract.
'Nobody twisted his arm to sign the contract. He was happy to do that and can't just change his mind on a whim,' added the source. Ferguson and chief executive David Gill are in full agreement over the stance and have the backing of the club's American owners, the Glazer family.
United also plan a determined response to Blatter, whose remarks about Ronaldo are in direct contrast to those he made last January when Andy Webster broke his contract with Hearts to play for Wigan.
Webster was ordered to pay the Scottish club £650,000 compensation by FIFA. When that sum was reduced to £150,000, Blatter complained: 'The decision is damaging for football and a Pyrrhic victory for those players and their agents who toy with the idea of rescinding contracts before they have been fulfilled.'
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport...bs-showdown-Real-target-Ronaldo.html?ITO=1490
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has pulled out of a planned showdown with Cristiano Ronaldo in Lisbon tomorrow.
Ferguson was angered and disappointed by Portuguese superstar Ronaldo's comments on television when he appeared to agree with FIFA chief Sepp Blatter's suggestion that United were treating him like a slave.
Sir Alex was due to fly to Lisbon for what would have been the first meeting between the pair since the furore about 23-year-old Ronaldo's links with Real Madrid blew up in the European Championship finals.Tomorrow's get-together had been regarded as vital to clear the air and bring the Madrid saga to an end.
Instead, Ferguson will stay in Manchester to push ahead with his attempt to sign Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov and supervise the squad departing on Wednesday for a threematch tour of South Africa. According to a source close to the club: 'The manager was hoping to sort things out with Ronaldo but that will now have to wait until the team get back.'
United's interest in 27-year-old Berbatov was revealed by the Mail Online last January when an initial inquiry about the Bulgaria international received little encouragement from Spurs. But Ferguson is still keen and though a bid of £20million has been rejected, Spurs could be more responsive if the offer reached £30m.
Ronaldo's attitude has hardened United's resolve to make him honour at least part of the three years left on his contract.
'Nobody twisted his arm to sign the contract. He was happy to do that and can't just change his mind on a whim,' added the source. Ferguson and chief executive David Gill are in full agreement over the stance and have the backing of the club's American owners, the Glazer family.
United also plan a determined response to Blatter, whose remarks about Ronaldo are in direct contrast to those he made last January when Andy Webster broke his contract with Hearts to play for Wigan.
Webster was ordered to pay the Scottish club £650,000 compensation by FIFA. When that sum was reduced to £150,000, Blatter complained: 'The decision is damaging for football and a Pyrrhic victory for those players and their agents who toy with the idea of rescinding contracts before they have been fulfilled.'
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport...bs-showdown-Real-target-Ronaldo.html?ITO=1490
Look, I know a lot more about Ronaldo than you think. Check my first post in this thread after coming back from Moscow. He'd decided to move even before playing the final - all this about his head being turned away from OT is rubbish.
I can't see why Real, or their agents are any more to blame than Ronaldo, or his advisers - they are in cahoots. Ronaldo can quite easily have shut all and sundry up after the first question about his future.
What Ronaldo lacks is not intelligence but class, humility and a sense of gratitude.
Just checked out Jacques Georges on the net. He died! so still some hope left in this tale
Agree 100% how difficult is it for Ronaldo to end this and say " I want to stay at Manchester United"? He wants to go, but if he asks for a transfer it will cost him a very large sum of money. So he is using tactics. With his agents(soon to be millions richer) help sic
I will never support Ronaldo again. He's given United, Sir Alex and the fans the middle finger and we don't deserve that. Yes any player or individual is free to do what they want and everybody has dreams but its the manner in which Ronaldo is handling this transfer saga that's seriously pissing me off.
United made him the player he is. He can thank the training coaches and staff at United for his development and progress in his footballing career but i don't see them getting that thanks.
I have lost alot of respect and admiration for this player. I have a completely different view on him after the past few months. Doesn't deserve to be in the United jersey so he can feck off to Madrid and it'll be only sweeter when his career nosedives over in Spain.
United made him the player he is. He can thank the training coaches and staff at United for his development and progress in his footballing career but i don't see them getting that thanks.
I have lost alot of respect and admiration for this player. I have a completely different view on him after the past few months. Doesn't deserve to be in the United jersey so he can feck off to Madrid and it'll be only sweeter when his career nosedives over in Spain.
Do you picture Calderon as some comic-book supervillain playing the puppet-master and manipulating everyone including United, the fans, the media, Ronaldo, his agent etc?
Quite frankly Calderon has done nothing wrong, this whole story is down to Ronaldo and him alone, if he wanted to end the speculation he could have done so at any time.
fjred seems to have a problem understanding this very simple fact.
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