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Sepp Blatter, is this really slavery?
By Brian Moore
Last Updated: 11:16pm BST 11/07/2008
In the 18th century, slaves were transported in ships so tightly packed that dehydration, dysentery and scurvy led to the death of one in three. Slaves who were thought to not be working hard enough suffered arbitrary punishment; in the worst cases - theft, disloyalty and the like - methods designed to give the maximum pain to the victim were used. The gibbet for a slow and painful death by hanging; flogging to death; the use of the wheel; and hanging, drawing and quartering (where the person being hanged was cut while still alive).
Eschewing the comparison of older conditions for slaves, let us look at the definition of modern-day slavery. This is defined as the submission to authority for the purpose of subsistence; contract slaves are described as generally poor, often illiterate, and people who are tricked into signing contracts they do not understand.
Signal the obligatory comment from Herr Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president. Blatter has long been willing to pontificate on all things English, usually to interfere, or warn England that they risk censure for all manner of things. Strangely, he shows no similar regard for other countries; Spain, for example. While worthy European champions, they were lucky to be in the finals following the racist behaviour of their fans towards black players only a few years previously. From Herr Blatter what did we hear on this? Platitudes, but no effective action; talk, talk, talk.
When questioned about Cristiano Ronaldo's apparent desire to break his contract with Manchester United in order to join Real Madrid, Blatter said: "The important thing is we should also protect the player. If the player wants to play somewhere else, then a solution should be found, because if he stays in a club where he does not feel comfortable, then it's not good for the player or the club. I'm always in favour of protecting the player and if the player, he wants to leave, let him leave. I think in football there's too much modern slavery in transferring players or buying players, and putting them somewhere. We are trying to intervene in such cases. The reaction to the Bosman law is to make long-lasting contracts in order to keep the players and then if he wants to leave, then there is only one solution, he has to pay his contract."
Herr Blatter must either have a tenuous grasp of history, or be unforgivably insensitive to use the word 'slavery' in relation to the allegedly unfair treatment of Ronaldo. The fact that Ronaldo has agreed with Blatter's words shows what a preening, pampered Portuguese pillock he is. None of the modern-day definitions of slavery apply. I know not whether he is literate, or stupid, but he employs professionals to advise him and cannot be said not to have understood the legal obligations he undertook when his advisers negotiated a lucrative five-year contract with United, presumably with his full knowledge and permission.
As a trained lawyer, Blatter obviously has no problem saying the first thing that comes to mind to support his case, even if it appears contrary to what he has said previously. He must think we are all thick and suffer from amnesia.
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It was only in January this year that Blatter and Fifa reacted angrily to a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport on the Andy Webster case.
Earlier, on April 4, 2007, the Fifa dispute resolution chamber found Webster guilty of having breached his employment contract without just cause, outside the protected period. Webster wanted to leave his club, Heart of Midlothian, to play for Wigan Athletic. As a consequence, Fifa ordered him to pay Hearts compensation of £625,000.
The CAS reduced the payment to £150,000, which was the value of the remaining period of the contract. Thus, there was no punitive element. The decision implies that the amount of compensation to be paid by a player who terminates his contract prematurely without just cause after the protected period can easily be calculated in advance; further than that, there is no element of penalty to be included.
Many commentators agreed with the opinion that the ruling would be detrimental to the system, but probably advantageous for players' agents, who, as in Webster's case, will offer their clients to new clubs with a price tag on them. Small clubs that are already struggling to keep their squad together; in particular if they have promising players in their team, will be faced with even more aggressive approaches towards their players once the relevant contracts have passed the protected period.
Of this Blatter said: "The decision which CAS took on 30 January, 2008, is very damaging for football and a Pyrrhic victory for those players and their agents, who toy with the idea of rescinding contracts before they have been fulfilled. CAS did not properly take into consideration the specificity of sport as required by article 17, paragraph 1 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
A Preening Portugese Pillock. I like it.
Sepp Blatter, is this really slavery?
By Brian Moore
Last Updated: 11:16pm BST 11/07/2008
In the 18th century, slaves were transported in ships so tightly packed that dehydration, dysentery and scurvy led to the death of one in three. Slaves who were thought to not be working hard enough suffered arbitrary punishment; in the worst cases - theft, disloyalty and the like - methods designed to give the maximum pain to the victim were used. The gibbet for a slow and painful death by hanging; flogging to death; the use of the wheel; and hanging, drawing and quartering (where the person being hanged was cut while still alive).
Eschewing the comparison of older conditions for slaves, let us look at the definition of modern-day slavery. This is defined as the submission to authority for the purpose of subsistence; contract slaves are described as generally poor, often illiterate, and people who are tricked into signing contracts they do not understand.
Signal the obligatory comment from Herr Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president. Blatter has long been willing to pontificate on all things English, usually to interfere, or warn England that they risk censure for all manner of things. Strangely, he shows no similar regard for other countries; Spain, for example. While worthy European champions, they were lucky to be in the finals following the racist behaviour of their fans towards black players only a few years previously. From Herr Blatter what did we hear on this? Platitudes, but no effective action; talk, talk, talk.
When questioned about Cristiano Ronaldo's apparent desire to break his contract with Manchester United in order to join Real Madrid, Blatter said: "The important thing is we should also protect the player. If the player wants to play somewhere else, then a solution should be found, because if he stays in a club where he does not feel comfortable, then it's not good for the player or the club. I'm always in favour of protecting the player and if the player, he wants to leave, let him leave. I think in football there's too much modern slavery in transferring players or buying players, and putting them somewhere. We are trying to intervene in such cases. The reaction to the Bosman law is to make long-lasting contracts in order to keep the players and then if he wants to leave, then there is only one solution, he has to pay his contract."
Herr Blatter must either have a tenuous grasp of history, or be unforgivably insensitive to use the word 'slavery' in relation to the allegedly unfair treatment of Ronaldo. The fact that Ronaldo has agreed with Blatter's words shows what a preening, pampered Portuguese pillock he is. None of the modern-day definitions of slavery apply. I know not whether he is literate, or stupid, but he employs professionals to advise him and cannot be said not to have understood the legal obligations he undertook when his advisers negotiated a lucrative five-year contract with United, presumably with his full knowledge and permission.
As a trained lawyer, Blatter obviously has no problem saying the first thing that comes to mind to support his case, even if it appears contrary to what he has said previously. He must think we are all thick and suffer from amnesia.
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It was only in January this year that Blatter and Fifa reacted angrily to a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport on the Andy Webster case.
Earlier, on April 4, 2007, the Fifa dispute resolution chamber found Webster guilty of having breached his employment contract without just cause, outside the protected period. Webster wanted to leave his club, Heart of Midlothian, to play for Wigan Athletic. As a consequence, Fifa ordered him to pay Hearts compensation of £625,000.
The CAS reduced the payment to £150,000, which was the value of the remaining period of the contract. Thus, there was no punitive element. The decision implies that the amount of compensation to be paid by a player who terminates his contract prematurely without just cause after the protected period can easily be calculated in advance; further than that, there is no element of penalty to be included.
Many commentators agreed with the opinion that the ruling would be detrimental to the system, but probably advantageous for players' agents, who, as in Webster's case, will offer their clients to new clubs with a price tag on them. Small clubs that are already struggling to keep their squad together; in particular if they have promising players in their team, will be faced with even more aggressive approaches towards their players once the relevant contracts have passed the protected period.
Of this Blatter said: "The decision which CAS took on 30 January, 2008, is very damaging for football and a Pyrrhic victory for those players and their agents, who toy with the idea of rescinding contracts before they have been fulfilled. CAS did not properly take into consideration the specificity of sport as required by article 17, paragraph 1 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
A Preening Portugese Pillock. I like it.
Preening Pampered Portuguese Pillocknot bad...
i like to go with Stupid Mother-fecking cnut, but what ever floats your boat i guess
all the media are saying the same bollocks. Like 99% of the worlds population don't get it. We get it. The media, if they believe what they write SHOULD start a campaign to get him out of office.
It might not work but it's better then posturing and then when something else happens, forgetting this even happened. The sun has the right idea - for once. Enough talking - time for action
It might not work but it's better then posturing and then when something else happens, forgetting this even happened. The sun has the right idea - for once. Enough talking - time for action
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1413460.ece
Published: Today
CRISTIANO RONALDO has refused to say sorry for claiming he is a football slave.
The Manchester United winger was handed the opportunity to retract his statement as he recovered from ankle surgery.
But Ronaldo, 23, instead chose to whine about “the worst injury of my career”.
He said: “I don’t want to speak about that again. I’ve said all I had to say.
“I only want to recover from my injury.
“This is the worst injury of my career but I’m optimistic. I hope the treatment goes well so I can start training earlier.”
Ronaldo’s refusal to apologise is likely to distance himself further from the United fans who have grown tired of hearing about his “dream” of playing for Real Madrid.
The £120,000-a-week Portuguese ace seized on comments made by FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who claimed Ron should be allowed to leave United and that making him stay was like slavery.
But Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp insists Blatter is talking complete rubbish.
He said: “For Blatter to say that when players are earning what they are is absolute nonsense. It’s plain crazy.”
Published: Today
CRISTIANO RONALDO has refused to say sorry for claiming he is a football slave.
The Manchester United winger was handed the opportunity to retract his statement as he recovered from ankle surgery.
But Ronaldo, 23, instead chose to whine about “the worst injury of my career”.
He said: “I don’t want to speak about that again. I’ve said all I had to say.
“I only want to recover from my injury.
“This is the worst injury of my career but I’m optimistic. I hope the treatment goes well so I can start training earlier.”
Ronaldo’s refusal to apologise is likely to distance himself further from the United fans who have grown tired of hearing about his “dream” of playing for Real Madrid.
The £120,000-a-week Portuguese ace seized on comments made by FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who claimed Ron should be allowed to leave United and that making him stay was like slavery.
But Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp insists Blatter is talking complete rubbish.
He said: “For Blatter to say that when players are earning what they are is absolute nonsense. It’s plain crazy.”
what a tit
You can't complain about the media getting on this Striker, they've been used by Madrid and Ronaldo throughout as a means of making a transfer more likely, and you can't question the newsworthyness of Blatter likening the game he's run for ten years to 'slavery'; and then Ronaldo coming out and agreeing with that despite his riches and glorious lifestyle
I've been angry about its implications for us, but the more I think about it, the more I think what a spoilt little shit, and what an utterly disgraceful comment to have made, disrespectful to all those who actually know what slavery is like
Pele: Ronaldo should honour contract
Pele today joined in the Cristiano Ronaldo transfer saga debate by insisting the Portugal international should see out his contract with Manchester United.
And the Brazil legend also suggested that Sepp Blatter's view that there is "modern slavery" in the game was wide of the mark.
Earlier this week the FIFA president was asked about Ronaldo's current
situation and he replied that players who are tied to long-term contracts were treated like slaves. Ronaldo later said he agreed with Blatter's comments.
Pele, speaking ahead of a charity football match at Stoke's Britannia Stadium in aid of the Gordon Banks Foundation, said: "You are a slave if you work without a contract or you don't get paid.
"If you have a contract then in any job you have to finish the contract. I think that when he finishes his contract, then he should be free to go wherever he wants to go."
Pele talking some sense for once, nothing about Viagra this time
Pele today joined in the Cristiano Ronaldo transfer saga debate by insisting the Portugal international should see out his contract with Manchester United.
And the Brazil legend also suggested that Sepp Blatter's view that there is "modern slavery" in the game was wide of the mark.
Earlier this week the FIFA president was asked about Ronaldo's current
situation and he replied that players who are tied to long-term contracts were treated like slaves. Ronaldo later said he agreed with Blatter's comments.
Pele, speaking ahead of a charity football match at Stoke's Britannia Stadium in aid of the Gordon Banks Foundation, said: "You are a slave if you work without a contract or you don't get paid.
"If you have a contract then in any job you have to finish the contract. I think that when he finishes his contract, then he should be free to go wherever he wants to go."
Pele talking some sense for once, nothing about Viagra this time
Cannavaro's take
Italy captain Fabio Cannavaro said FIFA president Sepp Blatter went too far in comparing long-term contracts between footballer and their clubs as a form of "modern slavery."
"Slavery is a big word," the Real Madrid defender told La Gazzetta dello Sport. "Someone who signs a contract must respect it."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldFootballNews/idUKB43915820080712
Italy captain Fabio Cannavaro said FIFA president Sepp Blatter went too far in comparing long-term contracts between footballer and their clubs as a form of "modern slavery."
"Slavery is a big word," the Real Madrid defender told La Gazzetta dello Sport. "Someone who signs a contract must respect it."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldFootballNews/idUKB43915820080712
First of all its the sun and when they can't say where the quotes were made, I dustrust them. If they were true, other more respected sources would have got them first. They have made up quotes about Ronaldo (saying he was going to sign next week), Hleb and Ronaldo's sister all this summer. If these quotes are true, they haven't even mentioned what Ronaldo was asked for the first question to give that response, it could have been anything such as 'do you want to go to real madrid, why have you not said so?'. But seen as though you believe things from cristianoronaldofan.net you probably are taking it as gospel
Maybe I downplayed it too much but I do want to again add. Calderon SAID THE SAME THING! Why has that been ignored??
I just think that we'll get all these people posturing, writing down fancy quotes and becoming all moral and yet will eventually forget about it, accept it and write something else
This is a seriously sad statement for a number of reason, you can do too much talking - to the extent it dilutes everything and people lose sight of action.
There is a lack of education here, but by all means write a page where you talk about the implications of making such a statement but also save a page for why he should be removed and what people should do. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with it but I fear he will
nice find topper,
i find i irritatating though that NO media acknowledge that blatter in an honarary member of ream madrid?
there has surely got to be a conflict of interests here, regarding this given situation.
I really hope United cash in on Ronaldo, big style.
come on fella, even pele has bill to pay..
i heard its been quite hard times for him lately
is that you mr glazier?
agreed, i think rednev left this bit out on purpose though..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/Roman_offers_Ronaldo_his_Luxary_Boat-82998.page
because i said that 1o2 HUNDRED pages back as a spoof article...the sun
yes it is
cool,
would it be ok for me to call you malc or would that be deemed too impertinent?
agreed, i think rednev left this bit out on purpose though..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/Roman_offers_Ronaldo_his_Luxary_Boat-82998.page
because i said that 1o2 HUNDRED pages back as a spoof article...the sun
Aren't you the bird who had problem choosing between watching a united or arsenal match?
malc is fine mate, as long as you dont wish me a painful death!
Anyway Im fed up of Ronaldo and his bullshit. Hes a cnut. Simple as. Why cant he show the club more respect? Fair enough he wants to leave, but at least leave with your head held high. I really want United to sell him, I cant believe im saying that but I dont think we need Ronaldo if thats his attitude.
When asked about his future and FIFA president Sepp Blatter's "slave" remarks, Ronaldo added: "I'm not going to talk about this anymore. This situation is tiresome."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8338316/Ronaldo:-Queiroz-right-man-for-job
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8338316/Ronaldo:-Queiroz-right-man-for-job
He was asked again
PMSL at the sun's vendetta against the boy. Sun readers will lap it up
Has someone already posted the Pele story ?
He basically said that he thought that Ronaldo should stay and see out his contract with United.
He basically said that he thought that Ronaldo should stay and see out his contract with United.
you should know better malc, listen to your manager, the ONE who knows!
NOT the media who all have papers to sell nor blatter who must now sing for his supper, nor platini who only hates england the english and everything about them, nor should you listen to calderon who clearly has his neck on the line before the elections..and ronaldo, well you of all people mr glazier should know how easy led the lad is
sorry for the hate campagn BTW.
In SAF we trust
Ill agree with that.
Cant wait to hear what the great man decides to do with Cristiano.
do one
you want to explain yourself, instead of posting stupid smilies?!
And if you think this is a knee jerk reaction its not. I dont care if Ronaldo is 'easily led', or 'he doesnt know what hes saying'. Matter of the fact is he is saying whats he saying and means it. Hes 22, 23 not a kid anymore, and needs to take responsibility.
I expect Maradona, Beckenbauer and Cruyff to chime in before the transfer window is shut.
If your comment is directed at me I can assure you that I do not believe what Christianoronaldo.netfan says at all. I merely throw in their quotes to add spice to the debate.
Ill explain myself to someone worth explaining to not some numpty who posts absolute drivel.
I love that SAF/United are not doing any talking at this stage.
SAF made it clear before that Ronaldo was not for sale. Nothing has changed, so there's no need to keep reiterating the same thing. Let everyone else get themselves worked up about it. When it comes down to it the ball is still firmly in United's court and nothing anyone else says or does can change that. Let Blatter make a fool of himself, let Madrid waste their time, and let Ronaldo stew in limbo. They can kick up a fuss about it all they want, but United WILL NOT accept any offer.
SAF made it clear before that Ronaldo was not for sale. Nothing has changed, so there's no need to keep reiterating the same thing. Let everyone else get themselves worked up about it. When it comes down to it the ball is still firmly in United's court and nothing anyone else says or does can change that. Let Blatter make a fool of himself, let Madrid waste their time, and let Ronaldo stew in limbo. They can kick up a fuss about it all they want, but United WILL NOT accept any offer.
When people comment on the slavery issue, they seem to think the amount of money Ronaldo is paid is the main issue. I think it is irrelevant in the slavery context.
Slaves are owned and are not free to leave their owners. Ronaldo, like all other footballers, is absolutely free to leave his current club. What he is not free to do is PLAY FOOTBALL FOR ANOTHER CLUB. I agree this will limit his earning ability but he is completely free to leave United, Manchester, even England. Slaves do not have that freedom.
I think you will find quite a few people agree with what he said on Ronaldo actually.
that comments blatter made regarding this issue only confirm how ridiculous his appointment is and how corrupt the system is in allowing its continuance!
maradona to say he should leave(the man is a cnut) beckenbauer and Cruyff to say he should stay
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