ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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But I assume at the same time you recognise that Ronaldo can win the fans back around in the same way as Rio? That if he knuckles down and maintains his performances we will eventually forgive him, even if it does take awhile?

Or do you think that the damage he has done is irrevocable, and that's that for his fandom?

Time is a healer Count, yes the damage could be undone. It would take clear committment to the cause in United colours, and at the end of next season signing a new long term contract extension

The difference is, I don't think Ronaldo will do that (the latter), and so I can't see a situation where he repairs the damage. And that damage could get far far worse in the days and weeks to come yet
 
Refresh my memory (I'm getting old) what team was Rio flirting with? I genuinely can't remember.


Edit: Just seen Spoony's post. I still don't remember. :confused:

Further edit: And all the others, the mists are clearing as I now remember the "accidental" meeting with Kenyon.
Fergie didn't seem to think it was so 'accidental'.

Who knows though?
 
Time is a healer Count, yes the damage could be undone. It would take clear committment to the cause in United colours, and at the end of next season signing a new long term contract extension

The difference is, I don't think Ronaldo will do that (the latter), and so I can't see a situation where he repairs the damage. And that damage could get far far worse in the days and weeks to come yet

I'd say more than his on field exploits, a sincere and clear apology for his behaviour towards the club, and it's fans over the last Month would be better recieved.
 
I can't hear you

I'm sure you exist though.

Yeah, right.

You want to get your facts right. Firstly, If you'd bothered to read any post I've previously made, you'd see that I'm one who wanted Ronaldo sold the day after the CL final and replaced with 2/3 quality players. Secondly, No, I don't believe what a Spanish journalist/s wants to elude over this whole affair especially when they seem to be having trouble over 'releasing' the audio of this 'interview' and in the absence of any verifiable proof at any stage. You're not, fine, I am. I'm sceptical of the whole thing because I can see that the likes of Calderon, Scolari et al, have all got their own agendas and unsettling us would be high on their list, with or without nicking Ronaldo. He's a useful vehicle to both of them, little else. Their main aim is to 'unsettle' us. Have Madrid got the money? they say so but have they? Where's the offer? What's reported today if it's to be believed? They now want Ronaldo to put in a transfer request instead of a straight offer, Apparently Ronaldo doesn't want to do it as he would lose money. Problems already. Good start, eh? Put your money where your mouth is, Calderon! Oops!
 
If Ronaldo does stay, what do you think the reaction will be at OT at our first game? Don't think there'll be boos or such. But I reckon Viva ronaldo will definitely be muted. Unless of course he apologises profusely for what has happened this summer before that.

Its tricky. If he stays, its cos it is what SAF wants ... and I will never ever doubt him. Never ever have. So if SAF wants me to back him, I will. But the magic relationship that he managed to create with us this season, he even got his doubters who thought he was just another overseas mercenary on side .... well thats left me feeling *** silly. I certainly will not bring his name to my lips.

It was interesting when he touched to ball for Portugal when they lost to Germany ... I felt a deep anger every time he touched the ball ... and when they lost, I was quite chuffed, mainly cos it fecked up his chances to be player of the tournament.

The joy of watching him has gone. And I cant see how my emotional connection will be recharged. I cant forgive the disrespect he has shown my beloved leader SAF. He's a cnut now. A bigger one than Beckham or Heinze ... And I think he will remain one in my eyes.
 
"Luiz Felipe Scolari insists Manchester United will not be able to prevent Cristiano Ronaldo from joining Real Madrid. "

Well, yes we can actually Luiz. You see, he signed a five year contract last year, binding himself to this club.
 
I will now contribute to this thread, not having done so before this point.

I am seeing a bit of parallel between this saga and that with Heinze last season - obviously you can't compare the somewhat lacklustre at times contribution made by Heinze last season with the comparison made by Ronaldo this season, however:


- We have a player who has preivously shown their love for the club, and who before the transfer saga most fans were ready and willing to have at the club next season.

- Conflicting media reports, most of which are sourced from people who are not the actual player in question. In Heinze's csae it was his agent and some of his Argentina team mates if I recall correctly, and in this case it seems to have been everyone that has ever had contact with Ronaldo. Ever.

- Fergie's threats to let the player in question rot in the reserves.

- The United Fans' general view turning as the saga dragged out, from in support of the player, to being against him, and wishing him ill.

- Sir Alex's not minding having him at the club next season despite his allegedd misgivings.

I really hope this doesn't go in the sam direction as the Heinze transfer - unlike the majority here I still liked Heinze and thought that we missed his cover this season (see: Manchester Derby at OT) - and while it wouldn't crush us, I don't want to lose Ronaldo.


Given that we face the worst case scenario, I think the effect of his leaving should be pondered. Obviously we have lost gifted players that have played a central role to our success before, and that has not stopped us from going on to win things. When you consider our previous losses in respect of key players (working backwards chronologically):

Roy Keane: Did not really leave a hole on the field needing filling - had been slowing down ever since his lasst bad hip injury (2002/2003). However it hit the moral of the team quite heavily, and there were a run of bad results afterwards (Europe in point). His departure was given greater impact because it was mid season. We recovered, won the Premiership the next season -and brought in Michael Carrick too. Verdict: We got over it.

Jaap Stam:
Shaky at the back for a year, prompted the buying of Laurent Blanc, who is either loved or hated by United fans. Also led indirectly to the capture of Rio Ferdinand, as 2001/2 showed that thereRi was a defensive gap that needed filling there, and we all know how o's turned out now. Verdict: Caused a year of instability in the defence - perfect example of how the loss of a player can shock the rest of the team.

Eric Cantona:
In my opinion the loss of Ronaldo will be similar to the loss of Cantona, is indeed Ronaldo goes. This is because Cantona was the most skilled player in the team, and the driving force behind our success not only in 1996/7, but also for years before that. Verdict: We got over it a season later in the most spectacular way possible, but similar to Stam the season immediately after there was instability and uncertainty.

Paul Ince, Andrei Kanchelskis, and Mark Hughes: You don't win anything with kids. Enough said.

Overall, I think the effect of Ronaldo leaving will not be as unsettling as the loss of Cantona or Stam. Why? Because one man doesn't win you a double. Obviously in a literal sense he might score in the penultimate games of both competitions thus securing the trophies, but as we all know the entire swaud contributed the our success, from the regulars in the limelight, like Rio, through to those who only appeared fleetingly, like Saha and Fletcher.

Also if he goes there will be some kind of hefty fee involved, and perchance even a player exchange - so it would not be as if we would be asked to take on next season's challenges with the exact same squad as last sans Ronaldo.
 
But I assume at the same time you recognise that Ronaldo can win the fans back around in the same way as Rio?
I inherited a dog last Christmas, his name was Rio.

I changed it though because i still haven't fully forgiven Ferdinand yet and i demand 100% loyalty from my pets and my women... :D
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And yes... he has no balls
 
I don't think his interview was filled with riddles. I think he's been pretty open. The only thing he's not said is, that he won't be playing for United next season. He knows we hold all the cards.

Riddles? Attempts to divine the truth in this saga are like the blind man, in the dark cellar, at midnight, looking for the black cat - which isn't there.....
 
Its tricky. If he stays, its cos it is what SAF wants ... and I will never ever doubt him. Never ever have. So if SAF wants me to back him, I will. But the magic relationship that he managed to create with us this season, he even got his doubters who thought he was just another overseas mercenary on side .... well thats left me feeling *** silly. I certainly will not bring his name to my lips.

It was interesting when he touched to ball for Portugal when they lost to Germany ... I felt a deep anger every time he touched the ball ... and when they lost, I was quite chuffed, mainly cos it fecked up his chances to be player of the tournament.

The joy of watching him has gone. And I cant see how my emotional connection will be recharged. I cant forgive the disrespect he has shown my beloved leader SAF. He's a cnut now. A bigger one than Beckham or Heinze ... And I think he will remain one in my eyes.

I agree parts of the post Bro.

What if SAF decides to forgive the lad?
 
I'd say more than his on field exploits, a sincere and clear apology for his behaviour towards the club, and it's fans over the last Month would be better recieved.

nah bro. Not enough. The bubble has burst. And I feel like a fool. The little cnut hoodwinked all of us. Classless, characterless ... in a way, its a shame he is such a fantastic footballer.

Still Im convinced we have seen his best, he simply wont get the support, formation, or the licence to play the way he does best at Madrid. As soon as you take away the system that we have provided for him, he'll be back to being the flash one trick pony he was in his first 2 years with us. The crowd will get on his back, he wont have all the support staff who have raised him as one of his own. Its just a fecking stupid decision.
 
Ronaldo seems such a strong character, but then at teh same time so easily influenced...bizarre

He is very easily fooled and Scolari has managed to convince him that he needs to go to Real Madrid now.

Ronaldo keeps speaking of this idiotic train only passing by once fantasy that Scolari told him.

Can someone tell Ronaldo that trains pass by more than once? That's how they work.
 
He is very easily fooled and Scolari has managed to convince him that he needs to go to Real Madrid now.

Ronaldo keeps speaking of this idiotic train only passing by once fantasy that Scolari told him.

Can someone tell Ronaldo that trains pass by more than once? That's how they work.

Soa strong character but just not particularly bright? dangerous combo. I expect he will probably change his mind again once Fergie's explained the situation to him
 
I wonder if Scolari's signing fee includes a little bonus if he turned Ronaldo's head enough. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
 
He is very easily fooled and Scolari has managed to convince him that he needs to go to Real Madrid now.

Ronaldo keeps speaking of this idiotic train only passing by once fantasy that Scolari told him.

Can someone tell Ronaldo that trains pass by more than once? That's how they work.

Scolari should be punished his role in all this has been nonthing short of disgraceful I remember some wanted him as manager but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club he is an absolute prick.
 
Do you really want him that much because I really do want him to just feck off out of my beloved club.

I liken this to having a tasty girlfriend, who thinks she is too good for you, she was with you for a while and you had some good times but now she thinks she can do better.

What do you do?

A) Make a complete tit of yourself and beg on bended knee for her to stay with the promise and hope that things will always be fantastic.

B) Tell her to pack her bags and feck off because you would rather be with a fat bird that loves you than someone who doesn’t appreciate you. (Come back Ralphie, all is forgiven)


Rumour has it the guy reckons he is worth a transfer because of his loyalty, wtf, the only true loyalty shown was from Manchester United and its fans who stood by and supported him when he needed it most.

Manchester United turned Ronaldo from an arrogant, diving pre-Madonna with potential into the player he is today, we in fact have only had Two good years service as repayment for this and for him to supposedly speak of his loyalty to us is nothing short of ridiculous.

I don’t think any one would of deny him his so called ‘Dream move’ if he had given us another three years service, as say Beckam did, but it seems that he only has the courage to come out with the transfer demands when he is away from Manchester and surrounded by his country men.

If all this is a smoke screen by Ronny and he is just doing it to angle a pay rise then fair play, he deserves it and I will be the first to say I was wrong to criticise him.

But some thing tells me that the majority of us rightly think that he is a twat of the highest order and he should feck off to Real where he will be in good company with his mate Heinze.

This is Manchester United and we don’t beg.

Good post mate.
 
Ronaldo seems such a strong character, but then at teh same time so easily influenced...bizarre

But can you be both of those things? Either you do or do not have the courage of your own convictions, surely. Scolari says he's mentally unusually tough. Others say he listens to people and bends with the wind, and that once back with a strong character like SAF, or even CQ, will change his mind once more.
 
Scolari should be punished his role in all this has been nonthing short of disgraceful I remember some wanted him as manager but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club he is an absolute prick.

I'm still not sure he is that amazing a manager. He has won a lot of stuff with different clubs but is not proven at club level in Europe...infact Chelsea is his first job in Europe.
 
But can you be both of those things? Either you do or do not have the courage of your own convictions, surely. Scolari says he's mentally unusually tough. Others say he listens to people and bends with the wind, and that once back with a strong character like SAF, or even CQ, will change his mind once more.

strong character but not particulalry bright is the conclusion we're arriving at
 
I would rather Ronaldo was sold to any other club in the world than Madrid.

Even Chelsea or Liverpool.
 
fergieisold; said:
I'm still not sure he is that amazing a manager. He has won a lot of stuff with different clubs but is not proven at club level in Europe...infact Chelsea is his first job in Europe.

What was his last club appointment (I can't remember before Portugal and Brazil)
 
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