if that ungrateful cnut want to stay, he won't
repeatedly talk about leaving for real and it be a dream come true. he also admitted following scolari advice.
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if that ungrateful cnut want to stay, he won't
repeatedly talk about leaving for real and it be a dream come true. he also admitted following scolari advice.
that's because besides the football, the uk is pretty shite to live in to be honest. naturally foreign players would be tempted to leave if the situation was right. also british players do not travel overseas as well as their continental counterparts, whether thats due to how they were brought up/language barriers, etc. but that's how it is. is unfair the critisize foreign players when british players would do the same if they were abroad.
when you're earning 120,000k a month Britain is a plenty fine place to live.
Sorry mate, but you have read it out of context, it's well been well documented (on here at least) that a CF and RB, are this years transfer targets
The others, Robinho and Sneijder plus cash are being talked about as part of the deal with Madrid for Ronaldo. As a £80 mil cash deal, wouldn’t be up front, and it’s not that easy to sign quality players.
Robinho and Sneijder would improve the squad, (Not necessarily replace the first team ) the extra cash from Madrid, I would use to buy Ribbery. I’m not saying Ribbery could replace Ronaldo, but he would go some ways to doing so.
So what I am saying, we could end up with a stronger squad with more options next season.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1321199.ece
MANCHESTER UNITED have already said they would rather let Cristiano Ronaldo rot in the stands than sell him to Real Madrid.
For the future of football and for every club in the world I hope they mean it — because they would be absolutely right.
If United can’t stop Ronaldo screwing up a contract and disappearing to another club simply because he fancies the move, then nobody can.
And if that’s where we’re at, then football descends into anarchy, contracts are meaningless bits of paper and the tail is well and truly wagging the dog.
United will only be concerned about themselves right now but they really are representing every other club.
I believe they have to dig in and say No. No to Real Madrid and No to the principle of a player deciding to walk out, irrespective of the years left on his contract.
And if United aren’t bothered about fighting their corner for everyone else, they have their own internal reasons for needing to fight this.
There are plenty of other players at Old Trafford that clubs like Real Madrid might suddenly decide they want.
If Ronaldo goes now, what’s to stop Carlos Tevez, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and all the others suddenly being lured away?
But it will take incredible boardroom strength to stand firm and resist the millions we expect Madrid to hurl United’s way now.
The timing of this entire affair has disappointed me, too.
I will never accept that a player of Ronaldo’s abilities would ever give anything less than 100 per cent when playing for his country.
But it’s an unavoidable fact that there will always be suspicion hanging over his performances for Portugal during these European Championships.
The fact he’s in the middle of such a bitter transfer controversy leaves Ronaldo wide open to the suggestion that his mind simply isn’t focused enough on winning the tournament for his country.
That’s unfortunate. Like everyone else, I spent last season marvelling at his skills and never bought into the accusation that he couldn’t produce the big performances when it really mattered.
You don’t become the Premier League’s leading scorer, or one of Europe’s most feared players unless you are consistently special.
I don’t believe this sorry saga has affected his performances in this tournament and I’d even include him in my team of the tournament.
But he HAS been the focus of attention for all the wrong reasons.
Instead of celebrating his trickery and goals, instead of wondering how on earth he managed to slip past defenders or blast home a thunderous free-kick, we have all been wondering what move he’ll make to get his transfer.
United are understandably angry right now with the whole situation.
But once the bruise starts to fade and blood flows back to the brain, there will be many commercial forces looking at the financial reality of rejecting a bid that could go as high as £70million.
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I can’t think of a single club that has turned down that sort of money. But the world is watching and United’s next move will send a message that will echo throughout the game.
I don’t want to suddenly turn United into angels, either.
Ask Everton what it was like to lose Rooney to Old Trafford.
Were Tottenham happy at the way Michael Caddick packed his bag — and I don’t remember Bayern Munich being overjoyed at the way Owen Hargreaves was coaxed away.
So if United stand firm now, and I hope they do, they must realise that they are standing for a principle that will apply to them as well.
If the relationship between a club and its players revolves around the contract, then that contract has to be set in stone — and honoured by every manager, player, agent and board of directors. Including United’s.
Only then will we have some sanity and commonsense in the game — and not the anarchy Ronaldo’s move to Madrid would spell.
Interview: IAN McGARRY
Interesting comments from El Tel. Must admit that part of me wants to see this happen, another part just wants him the feck out of here for as much wonga as possible.
MANCHESTER UNITED have already said they would rather let Cristiano Ronaldo rot in the stands than sell him to Real Madrid.
For the future of football and for every club in the world I hope they mean it — because they would be absolutely right.
If United can’t stop Ronaldo screwing up a contract and disappearing to another club simply because he fancies the move, then nobody can.
And if that’s where we’re at, then football descends into anarchy, contracts are meaningless bits of paper and the tail is well and truly wagging the dog.
United will only be concerned about themselves right now but they really are representing every other club.
I believe they have to dig in and say No. No to Real Madrid and No to the principle of a player deciding to walk out, irrespective of the years left on his contract.
And if United aren’t bothered about fighting their corner for everyone else, they have their own internal reasons for needing to fight this.
There are plenty of other players at Old Trafford that clubs like Real Madrid might suddenly decide they want.
If Ronaldo goes now, what’s to stop Carlos Tevez, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and all the others suddenly being lured away?
But it will take incredible boardroom strength to stand firm and resist the millions we expect Madrid to hurl United’s way now.
The timing of this entire affair has disappointed me, too.
I will never accept that a player of Ronaldo’s abilities would ever give anything less than 100 per cent when playing for his country.
But it’s an unavoidable fact that there will always be suspicion hanging over his performances for Portugal during these European Championships.
The fact he’s in the middle of such a bitter transfer controversy leaves Ronaldo wide open to the suggestion that his mind simply isn’t focused enough on winning the tournament for his country.
That’s unfortunate. Like everyone else, I spent last season marvelling at his skills and never bought into the accusation that he couldn’t produce the big performances when it really mattered.
You don’t become the Premier League’s leading scorer, or one of Europe’s most feared players unless you are consistently special.
I don’t believe this sorry saga has affected his performances in this tournament and I’d even include him in my team of the tournament.
But he HAS been the focus of attention for all the wrong reasons.
Instead of celebrating his trickery and goals, instead of wondering how on earth he managed to slip past defenders or blast home a thunderous free-kick, we have all been wondering what move he’ll make to get his transfer.
United are understandably angry right now with the whole situation.
But once the bruise starts to fade and blood flows back to the brain, there will be many commercial forces looking at the financial reality of rejecting a bid that could go as high as £70million.
Advertisement
I can’t think of a single club that has turned down that sort of money. But the world is watching and United’s next move will send a message that will echo throughout the game.
I don’t want to suddenly turn United into angels, either.
Ask Everton what it was like to lose Rooney to Old Trafford.
Were Tottenham happy at the way Michael Caddick packed his bag — and I don’t remember Bayern Munich being overjoyed at the way Owen Hargreaves was coaxed away.
So if United stand firm now, and I hope they do, they must realise that they are standing for a principle that will apply to them as well.
If the relationship between a club and its players revolves around the contract, then that contract has to be set in stone — and honoured by every manager, player, agent and board of directors. Including United’s.
Only then will we have some sanity and commonsense in the game — and not the anarchy Ronaldo’s move to Madrid would spell.
Interview: IAN McGARRY
Interesting comments from El Tel. Must admit that part of me wants to see this happen, another part just wants him the feck out of here for as much wonga as possible.
You've answered your own question really. We sold Becks and complained we miss the creativity that he gave us, his free kicks and passing ability. Yet we got others to stand up and be counted. Finding the next Ronaldo may not be easy, but finding the next Cantona hasn't been easy and we've never done that. Scholes was touted as such, but became his own player. We'll adapt and others will come to the fore. We have a club full of wonderfully gifted players, we are not as a one man team, it would be a huge loss seeing Ronaldo go, but it wouldn't be a terminal loss
Basically, he wants two things. To join Real Madrid, and to be remembered fondly at Man Utd. As he has said, he would happily join them now if Real make an offer that we accept. Quite likely he is even hoping we accept the offer. But he won't try to force us to accept that offer, as long as he knows that we will let him make the move in the not-too-distant future. He can be convinced that the time hasn't come yet, and the key is that while he is here he will always try his hardest. Indeed, he might even be at his best when given an exact timeframe, as he knows he has to fit every goal and record into that time that he can.
you mean 120k a week...as opposed to 120,000k (120,000 x1000??) a month?
Gay lyrics aside, that video just reminded me of his immense talent.
Sad it's come to this stage.
Really sad, I don't care for his personality but if I'm honest my confidence to win a game always dipped a little if the team sheet came out and Ronaldo wasn't on it.
oh shit... it's crap at 120,000 week. My mistake.
If he wants to leave we should let him go, but only for top dollar.
We cannot just sign Ribbery like that. Look at how much time it took us to sign Hargreaves from Bayern. It's unlikely to just sign a player even if you put up a shitload of money.
Let him go.
"Better to have loved then to have never loved before".
Great player - hope we get a good price and he does well at Madrid. The club is bigger then any one player
"Better to have loved then to have never loved before".
Great player - hope we get a good price and he does well at Madrid. The club is bigger then any one player
if that ungrateful cnut want to stay, he won't
repeatedly talk about leaving for real and it be a dream come true. he also admitted following scolari advice.
I've heard this over and over again.When Ronaldo his actually sitting at a press conference broadcast live and says he wants to leave.Then i will wish him good luck and thanks for his help.United will go on and continue to win trophies and knock the dippers of there perch.
don't want to get off topic as this discussion would probably belong in the general but other than for footballing reasons, i'd rather be paid 80k a week to live in parts of germany, switzerland, italy, france, spain, or even the netherlands, than get 120k a week in the UK.
I know, only £120,000 a week, poor lamb, I don't know how he manages on it, it must be hard for him. No wonder he NEEDS to double his wages, there's things he needs, but can't afford at the moment. I bet he's worring over the gas and electic bill, they've gone up in the last year you know, and that tight Mr Gill won't give him a pay rise..even after all his hard work ! .
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Maths aside, I agree.
When you've money spewing out of your arse and you only work for 3 or 4 hours a day, you can afford any life style you want; you don't have to wear a flat cap and go to the local pub every night just because you've signed for Manchester United.
If this were such a bad place for rich foreigners to come to, we wouldn't have a load of oligarchs, billionaire Indians and whatnot queuing up to come in.
We don't need any of Madrid's players, and if they can't raise the transfer fee up front they can feck off. Do we really have to settle for what they have on their books because they can't afford one of our players who still has 4 years of his contract to run?
We need a CF to replace the glass man and a winger instead of Ronaldo. Ribbery would be my choice, but other than those 2 I don't care if the rest of the money is going to serve the debt. Our players have just won the two biggest trophys out there, and don't need replacing.
Calderon cautious over Ron comments
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has refused to be drawn on Cristiano Ronaldo's latest admission he wants to join the Spanish champions.
Real have often expressed their desire to lure the Manchester United winger to the Bernabeu and despite United insisting he is not for sale, Ronaldo's declarations following Portugal's Euro 2008 exit could mean a move is on the cards.
However, while admitting it would be a great coup to land the Portugal star, Calderon insisted the transfer is far from a done deal.
"As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player," Calderon told Spanish sports daily AS.
"If the two resolve this situation and Manchester United want to call us then we will be happy and delighted with them because Cristiano is a great player.
"We can't say anything more, we only talk about our own footballers and Cristiano is Manchester United's."
However, Calderon did admit Ronaldo's comments, in which he signalled his intention to "take advantage of a great opportunity", may have swung the pendulum in Real's favour.
"If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken could be key," added the Real chief.
Real are reportedly set to offer United a world record 100million euros (£79million) for the player or 80million (63.2million) plus Holland midfielder Wesley Sneijder.
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_3718402,00.html
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has refused to be drawn on Cristiano Ronaldo's latest admission he wants to join the Spanish champions.
Real have often expressed their desire to lure the Manchester United winger to the Bernabeu and despite United insisting he is not for sale, Ronaldo's declarations following Portugal's Euro 2008 exit could mean a move is on the cards.
However, while admitting it would be a great coup to land the Portugal star, Calderon insisted the transfer is far from a done deal.
"As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player," Calderon told Spanish sports daily AS.
"If the two resolve this situation and Manchester United want to call us then we will be happy and delighted with them because Cristiano is a great player.
"We can't say anything more, we only talk about our own footballers and Cristiano is Manchester United's."
However, Calderon did admit Ronaldo's comments, in which he signalled his intention to "take advantage of a great opportunity", may have swung the pendulum in Real's favour.
"If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken could be key," added the Real chief.
Real are reportedly set to offer United a world record 100million euros (£79million) for the player or 80million (63.2million) plus Holland midfielder Wesley Sneijder.
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_3718402,00.html
simply do not understand the clamor for benzema. the guy already said he prefers to play in spain than in england. if indeed ronaldo goes, do we want this shit all over again with benzema? like ronaldo, he'll use us a stepping stone to play in spain.
oligarchs, billionaire indians, and whatnot don't have to stay for a full season in the uk. they'll have a beautiful 'residence' but they'll leave to wherever they wish to be at their whim anytime.
maybe if we develop transporter technology, ronaldo can be convinced to see out his career at united. he can live in portugal and just teleport to carrington for training or OT for matchdays.
Yet levy/ramos comes out and say he's rotting in the reserves for two years, they're not selling him. You'd say they're career ruiners and real cnuts.
Double standards, IMO. Let him leave. We'll be just fine.
I actually wouldn't. That Spurs' right. He's their player. Either players have contracts or they don't. What's the point in having a contract with a player if he can walk out any time he wants?
The whole thing is a load of cock.
I'd take that. But why would Sneijder leave Madrid? he loves it there. Ain't gonna happen.
I'm on about £350/w and live in Israel. I think it's time to sack my agent.
difficult to say who was most talented but eric had by far the better attitude. i know who i'd rather have beside when the chips were down!
Cheshire is a beautiful part of the world. The only downside is the weather.
difficult to say who was most talented but eric had by far the better attitude. i know who i'd rather have beside when the chips were down!
eric brought more to the club than just pure footballing talent. his attitude and demeanor was something that was a catalyst for the club's success at a crucial time.
you can't measure eric on just pure footballing talent. if u did, there are a number of players who are better IMO. Ronado is definately a class or two above. Bergkamp, being totally objective, was more talented the player than eric was.
Where are you from, VW?
it not just the weather mate. the culture, attitude, lifestyle, etc. once you experience living for extended periods of time in vastly different areas, you understand that its more than 'just the weather'.
not saying cheshire isn't a great place. it is a top notch place. however i can totally understand people who would dislike it for more than just the weather compared to an area that is closer to their upbringing/background.
I've heard a great suggestion today - apparently Agbonlahor can replace Ronaldo.
fecking hell.
fecking hell.
simply do not understand the clamor for benzema. the guy already said he prefers to play in spain than in england. if indeed ronaldo goes, do we want this shit all over again with benzema? like ronaldo, he'll use us a stepping stone to play in spain.
Yes, even if Ronaldo goes this summer I would still go through this all again, he's given us 5 great years and countless memories.
We have to sign top talent even if they do dream to move on at some point.
I'd go and spend money on Ashley Young rather than Agbonlahor. I rate him highly and think he could do a job for us.
You don't have to buy wholesale into the culture, attitude, lifestyle, etc of an area just because you've moved there. There are plenty of regular immigrants who can attest to that.
Footballers exist in a rarefied world of opulence and excess. The British culture that your average pleb will experience is nothing like what Ronaldo will have been exposed to.
currently live in the US (however moving to zurich for work within the year), lived in wilmslow for 3 years for a work rotation. Born in new york, spent my childhood inbetween india, bolton, and new york. a bit of a mutt with my background.
He is right though I'm afraid. The lure of a culture can play a big part...
To be fair, Agbonlahor is the only other player in the Premiership who I've seen close down such huge distances at such speed with the ball at his feet. He's obviously nowhere near as gifted, but he's probably the only other player who can fill that one particular Ronaldo-shaped void in our play.
Bolton's a great place. Almost as good as Ashton.
That said, I don't really agree with you. Lifestyle anywhere depends on how much cash you have(as side from the weather). I bet most people in India would love to live abroad, but I doubt the vast majority of multi millionaires in Bombay would even consider it.
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Tell your nephew he's a bandwagon jumper, for some of us Rooney has always been our favourite player! Well I say that, I love Scholes me...
I think your observation is right Sultan, I'm not sure what that says about either us and thos who didn't turn quicker. I think perhaps we felt the pain quicker, and we understood precisely what was going on, we've probably been around the game a lot longer than some who follow United on here. Though even my position has changed, previously I saw it as no lose either way should he stay or go; now the way he's undermining Fergusons authority I struggle to see how he stays
I'd absolutely fecking love it if he did stay (and lets face it, if Madrid can't afford our price demand should be eventually set one, he's going nowhere, they'll be none of this selling him for cheap nonsense some are claiming) and was rooted to the bench for the first half of the season. Teach the bastard a bit of humility... though I doubt anyone or anything is capable of that
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