EZee
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I want to be there when he meets with Fergie.
ask devilish what it is like to witness the hairdryer...
or alternativley have a trawl through the classics
I want to be there when he meets with Fergie.
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Ronaldo's next step will be to issue a statement over the weekend, in which he is expected to talk of the commitment he has shown, the performances he has produced and the trophies he has won for United over the past five seasons and to ask for their blessing to allow him to join Real.
That statement will be followed by a scheduled meeting of the Real hierarchy on Tuesday, after which Predrag Mijatovic, the Spanish club's sporting director, will be urged to open formal negotiations with David Gill, the United chief executive.
United responded to Ronaldo's comments by issuing a statement yesterday saying that he is "not for sale" and that the club are "not listening to offers", which is in keeping with their stance since Ronaldo shocked them by stating on May 15 that he was planning to make an announcement about his future.
Initially, Ferguson and Gill suspected that Ronaldo was merely angling for an improved contract, but it has become increasingly clear that the player is serious about his intention to pursue his "dream" of playing for Real. (© The Times, London)
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Hehe. I've read all 3 parts of it.ask devilish what it is like to witness the hairdryer...
or alternativley have a trawl through the classics
I want to be there when he meets with Fergie.
I've sat on the fence, tried to play devil's advocate, I guess I was waiting for him to open his mouth. But what he said was indefensible. He's got a huge fecking ego. . .and I hope he'll regret everything he's done and said, very soon. At least Becks and Ruud showed some class in the media - especially Becks. Then again he's a Red and has an emotional attachment to United. But it's time to move on, he's not fit to wear the shirt.
What is this shit im hearing on SSN that ronaldo doesnt care if he upsets Fergie.
Yea. I thought that a few weeks ago, that it's funny how he's in line and acts somewhat how a United player should when he's around Old Trafford.He's been a coward, waited till the season was over and avoided any contact with Fergie, during the Euros. I think he'll try his best not to meet up with Fergie.
Actually Spoons, Beckham was not very classy about it ... how time mellows the reality ... remember his performance vs Madrid in that ridiculous 5-3 match in the CL was just as bad and what happened vis the media after the game. But Becks post United whining about how much he missed and respected United is the bit that is revealing. Sure he was one of us at his core too ... but I cannot but think Ronaldo will suffer the same after a few soulless years of merchandising prostitution at Madrid. He will not succeed there. Too many old school ego's in the dressing room to tolerate his on the pitch dalliances.
Madrid are mad, they finally get back to become a real 'football club', win the league and yet again, want to trot down the galaitco formula again. Madness!
I think this might be the gayest thing I've ever seen.
Robinho and Sneijder as well as enough cash to buy Ribbery would be a good deal. Hopefully we coud also then sign a CF and RB from this years transfer kitty.
Anyone who dosen't think this squad would be stonger is mistaken.
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!
Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.
He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!
He's been a coward, waited till the season was over and avoided any contact with Fergie, during the Euros. I think he'll try his best not to meet up with Fergie.
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!
Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.
He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!
Once Ronaldo does talk to Fergie and CQ and they can get him away from the bad influences, they'll basically tell him that his time will come, but not for another two seasons or so (Fergie has already said it to the media about a month ago).
And as long as they let him know that they'll let him go with their good wishes when the time comes, and give him more records to aim for in the meantime, he'll happily stay.
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!
Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.
He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!
I spend a lot of time in Spain - I semi-retired to the place. There are more differences between Spain and England than just the weather - so don't underplay the culture shock that Ron went through to make it in England or the reason why he'd see Spain as closer to his comfort zone - and yes, to see places like Real Madrid and Barcelona as the real theatres of dreams (they're the kind of teams his heroes played for). I expected Ron semi-retire to Spain as well - I just didn't expect him to do it at 23.
Which makes me think he isn't planning a retirement. I've always liked Ron - I enjoy that whole "genius is frequently touched by madness" thing he has going, as well as the talent and the end product. Vain as a pussycat - he may well have a dream to outdo Figo and Zidane - how about 5 years, a few Ligas and a CL with Madrid, and then a move to Italy for another go (he'd only be 28)
I still believe that this was supposed to happen in a couple of years time, with some trophies in the cupboard, some more memories made and no hard feelings. That it may end earlier suggests that Madrid read him better than United and that shocks me. Something went wrong and while people can talk about contract anarchy if we had renegotiated - I still think that's what most clubs would have done (Milan with Kaka, Spurs with Berbatov, Atletico with Torres - the first time around)
What now? Personally I don't think Madrid can come up with enough cash to make United blink and I think Ron will always try to do his best (I guess he could stop smiling on the team photos but, marketing-wise some people prefer the moody looking version, so what the hell) A deal will be done to smooth his leaving in a year or two's time. Ron will do what he can for us on the field over that time and he won't have killed his chances of a Madrid move. It won't be pretty but it won't be the worst outcome.
I've read and heard his interview. I don't think any United fan can defend him. Let's sell him. . .and blow the cash on Messi. I don't want anyone at United who'd rather play for another club.
Where your theory falls down is that HE KNOWS all of this! They have been saying that to him for the past 2 years. We all know he will leave. We all expected it to be in 2 years time. And I would be fine with that. In a sense that is quid pro quo. What he is asking for now is not!
His value will continue to increase. So I would bench him and let him rot in the reserves for a while - lets see how professional e really is. At some point you have to take a stand. And we are Manchester United. If we dont take a stand, who the feck will?! For the good of the game, its now out clubs time to take some responsibility in this area.
Where did you hear the interview?
and is it in English?
Just curious as i'm yet to see/hear it.
Decided to log in from Bali for a quick update.
Looks like he wants out. Which is a pity. He may or may not leave this summer but the end is nigh. We'll cope though. We always do.
I guess it's panned out that the club hasn't managed to inspire the same sense of loyalty in him that it has done in us fans and his team-mates. Oh well, each to his own.
Whatever, he's been a magnificent footballer and I will always feel privileged to have watched him strut his stuff at Old Trafford.
Some of the bile, hatred and righteous indignation (with a hefty sprinkling of "I told you so" xenophobia) is profoundly depressing. Glad I've spend so little time on here in recent weeks.
I'm off to watch the sun set over the Indian ocean, with a cold beer in my hand and start to look forward to next season, with or without one of the best players ever to play for Manchester United. Life moves on an all that.
As you were gents.
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I have seen all those players live and none of them could match how ROnaldo has been this season, sorry. In terms of consistent performances year on year i take your point, but Ronaldo has been a different class
Except I have and I consider Ronaldo to be the most talented I've ever seen. Not the greatest but the most talented. It's an important difference.
OK, I dont disagree on that. My point is with or without him, we will carry on seeing great players, who knows maybe even someone even better. And whether is was the most talented of all of greats is a moot point. We dont need the BPITW to be successful ... He nearly cost us the CL and needed his team mates to bail him out if you remember?!
He may well be the most talented player under SAF (I still think that is Eric Cantona) but given his behaviour, I wont mourn his loss. And that is also an important differnce about how I feel about him vs out other genuine greats.
Things change quickly in football though. Just because he has been outstanding for 2 years doesn't necessarily mean he will be for the next 2.
2 or 3 years ago Ronaldinho & Henry were the best players in the world, now look at them.
I really don't agree with you what so ever on this. We've lost great players before through many different ways, but we've always come back. Recent history shows, that we thought we'd never replace Eric, Robson, Schmeichel, but we did and have.
We then look at those that had injury free careers as such or we thought were indestructible, I'll use Steve Coppell as your example for this. He holds the record for most consecutive games for United by an outfield player which stands at 207, then one horror challenge later, his knee and career was virtually knackered. We don't know what is around the corner for any player, let alone Ronaldo, as sublime as he has been a major injury could ruin his career.
Decided to log in from Bali for a quick update.
Looks like he wants out. Which is a pity. He may or may not leave this summer but the end is nigh. We'll cope though. We always do.
I guess it's panned out that the club hasn't managed to inspire the same sense of loyalty in him that it has done in us fans and his team-mates. Oh well, each to his own.
Whatever, he's been a magnificent footballer and I will always feel privileged to have watched him strut his stuff at Old Trafford.
Some of the bile, hatred and righteous indignation (with a hefty sprinkling of "I told you so" xenophobia) on the last few pages of this thread is profoundly depressing. Glad I've spend so little time on here in recent weeks.
I'm off to watch the sun set over the Indian ocean, with a cold beer in my hand and start to look forward to next season, with or without one of the best players ever to play for Manchester United. Life moves on an all that.
As you were gents.
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I don't hate Ronaldo but it's fair to say that foreign players are more likely to be less faithful then British players. And at their clubs as well.