ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Ronaldo's next step will be to issue a statement over the weekend, in which he is expected to talk of the commitment he has shown, the performances he has produced and the trophies he has won for United over the past five seasons and to ask for their blessing to allow him to join Real.

That statement will be followed by a scheduled meeting of the Real hierarchy on Tuesday, after which Predrag Mijatovic, the Spanish club's sporting director, will be urged to open formal negotiations with David Gill, the United chief executive.

United responded to Ronaldo's comments by issuing a statement yesterday saying that he is "not for sale" and that the club are "not listening to offers", which is in keeping with their stance since Ronaldo shocked them by stating on May 15 that he was planning to make an announcement about his future.

Initially, Ferguson and Gill suspected that Ronaldo was merely angling for an improved contract, but it has become increasingly clear that the player is serious about his intention to pursue his "dream" of playing for Real. (© The Times, London)

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I think most of us did at first
 
I've sat on the fence, tried to play devil's advocate, I guess I was waiting for him to open his mouth. But what he said was indefensible. He's got a huge fecking ego. . .and I hope he'll regret everything he's done and said, very soon. At least Becks and Ruud showed some class in the media - especially Becks. Then again he's a Red and has an emotional attachment to United. But it's time to move on, he's not fit to wear the shirt.

Actually Spoons, Beckham was not very classy about it ... how time mellows the reality ... remember his performance vs Madrid in that ridiculous 5-3 match in the CL was just as bad and what happened vis the media after the game. But Becks post United whining about how much he missed and respected United is the bit that is revealing. Sure he was one of us at his core too ... but I cannot but think Ronaldo will suffer the same after a few soulless years of merchandising prostitution at Madrid. He will not succeed there. Too many old school ego's in the dressing room to tolerate his on the pitch dalliances.

Madrid are mad, they finally get back to become a real 'football club', win the league and yet again, want to trot down the galaitco formula again. Madness!
 
He's been a coward, waited till the season was over and avoided any contact with Fergie, during the Euros. I think he'll try his best not to meet up with Fergie.
Yea. I thought that a few weeks ago, that it's funny how he's in line and acts somewhat how a United player should when he's around Old Trafford.

But as soon as he fecks off on Holidays or with his Portugeezers he turns into #1 cnut.
 
I want to hear him say it, if he's said it then fine but until I hear the words come from his mouth then I refuse to get carried away. I know the probability is that he wants and will go... but I can't believe anyone would want to leave us for Real or any other club after the season we've just had.

Has he disrespected the club? YES.

Has he disrespected the fans? YES.

Because if he wanted the move he could have just come out and said so during the competition. I know that my own opinion of him wouldn't then have been has cruely manipulated and twisted. I'd have probably been happier to let him go and even wished him well if he went. He's the best player in the world, replacing him isn't possible we all know that. But we're Manchester United... if Fergie decides he has to let him go, we'll go on.
 
His ego has surpassed his ability. That's unfortunate, but as previously said, no player is bigger than the club.

This is just the end of another chapter. We've seen it happen before, and as always, United has just moved on, stronger, better and more successful.

Au Revoir.
 
Actually Spoons, Beckham was not very classy about it ... how time mellows the reality ... remember his performance vs Madrid in that ridiculous 5-3 match in the CL was just as bad and what happened vis the media after the game. But Becks post United whining about how much he missed and respected United is the bit that is revealing. Sure he was one of us at his core too ... but I cannot but think Ronaldo will suffer the same after a few soulless years of merchandising prostitution at Madrid. He will not succeed there. Too many old school ego's in the dressing room to tolerate his on the pitch dalliances.

Madrid are mad, they finally get back to become a real 'football club', win the league and yet again, want to trot down the galaitco formula again. Madness!

Aye, very true. I guess, footballers are cnuts, on the whole. Fame. Money. Egos.
 
Robinho and Sneijder as well as enough cash to buy Ribbery would be a good deal. Hopefully we coud also then sign a CF and RB from this years transfer kitty.

Anyone who dosen't think this squad would be stonger is mistaken.

Any special reason why you wish to replace half our team, which has just completed a league and CL double?
 
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!

Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.

He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!

Except I have and I consider Ronaldo to be the most talented I've ever seen. Not the greatest but the most talented. It's an important difference.
 
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!

Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.

He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!

I have seen all those players live and none of them could match how ROnaldo has been this season, sorry. In terms of consistent performances year on year i take your point, but ROnaldo has been a different class
 
Agree with you completely ILBB15:

Ronaldo's comments are outrageous. United has given him so much - leaving is one thing, but coming out with all these disregarding remarks about United and Ferguson are just so disgraceful. They have made him the player that he is - yes he is talented, but United and Ferguson have made him the player he is, and he is so arrogant to say what he's saying.

He seems to be more attached to Scolari (a national manager he sees occasionally) than Ferguson (who's done so much for him and he plays with week-in, week-out).

The sheer arrogance is quite staggering.
 
He actually lied on to a reporter, i remember after the champions league game he actually told a reporter " I am staying"

Oh well life goes on
 
Once Ronaldo does talk to Fergie and CQ and they can get him away from the bad influences, they'll basically tell him that his time will come, but not for another two seasons or so (Fergie has already said it to the media about a month ago).

And as long as they let him know that they'll let him go with their good wishes when the time comes, and give him more records to aim for in the meantime, he'll happily stay.

Where your theory falls down is that HE KNOWS all of this! They have been saying that to him for the past 2 years. We all know he will leave. We all expected it to be in 2 years time. And I would be fine with that. In a sense that is quid pro quo. What he is asking for now is not!

His value will continue to increase. So I would bench him and let him rot in the reserves for a while - lets see how professional e really is. At some point you have to take a stand. And we are Manchester United. If we dont take a stand, who the feck will?! For the good of the game, its now out clubs time to take some responsibility in this area.
 
Im not digging you ... but you obvioulsy not have seen that much then!!

Whiteside, Robson, Hughes version I, Cantona, Giggs, Scoles, Beckham, Yorke, RvN all gave us more than2 seasons of sheer and utter joy. Im too young to comment on Edwards, Best, Law or Charlton.

He is a great player, but we have been blessed with many over the years and we will see plenty more ... starting with Tevez, Rooney, Anderson & Nani next season and with the players SAF buys with the 100m buring a hole in his pocket! I'll take Benzema, Schweinsteiger and Bently in a flash!

the first one, who i really rate, will want to move to madrid after 3-4 seasons here, the second isn't quick enough to play out wide for us week in week out...he'd be great addition to the squad IMO, but not first XI material, the third is overrated poncey shite.

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I spend a lot of time in Spain - I semi-retired to the place. There are more differences between Spain and England than just the weather - so don't underplay the culture shock that Ron went through to make it in England or the reason why he'd see Spain as closer to his comfort zone - and yes, to see places like Real Madrid and Barcelona as the real theatres of dreams (they're the kind of teams his heroes played for). I expected Ron semi-retire to Spain as well - I just didn't expect him to do it at 23.

Which makes me think he isn't planning a retirement. I've always liked Ron - I enjoy that whole "genius is frequently touched by madness" thing he has going, as well as the talent and the end product. Vain as a pussycat - he may well have a dream to outdo Figo and Zidane - how about 5 years, a few Ligas and a CL with Madrid, and then a move to Italy for another go (he'd only be 28)

I still believe that this was supposed to happen in a couple of years time, with some trophies in the cupboard, some more memories made and no hard feelings. That it may end earlier suggests that Madrid read him better than United and that shocks me. Something went wrong and while people can talk about contract anarchy if we had renegotiated - I still think that's what most clubs would have done (Milan with Kaka, Spurs with Berbatov, Atletico with Torres - the first time around)

What now? Personally I don't think Madrid can come up with enough cash to make United blink and I think Ron will always try to do his best (I guess he could stop smiling on the team photos but, marketing-wise some people prefer the moody looking version, so what the hell) A deal will be done to smooth his leaving in a year or two's time. Ron will do what he can for us on the field over that time and he won't have killed his chances of a Madrid move. It won't be pretty but it won't be the worst outcome.

Quality post.
 
Decided to log in from Bali for a quick update.

Looks like he wants out. Which is a pity. He may or may not leave this summer but the end is nigh. We'll cope though. We always do.

I guess it's panned out that the club hasn't managed to inspire the same sense of loyalty in him that it has done in us fans and his team-mates. Oh well, each to his own.

Whatever, he's been a magnificent footballer and I will always feel privileged to have watched him strut his stuff at Old Trafford.

Some of the bile, hatred and righteous indignation (with a hefty sprinkling of "I told you so" xenophobia) on the last few pages of this thread is profoundly depressing. Glad I've spend so little time on here in recent weeks.

I'm off to watch the sun set over the Indian ocean, with a cold beer in my hand and start to look forward to next season, with or without one of the best players ever to play for Manchester United. Life moves on an all that.

As you were gents.

:)
 
Where your theory falls down is that HE KNOWS all of this! They have been saying that to him for the past 2 years. We all know he will leave. We all expected it to be in 2 years time. And I would be fine with that. In a sense that is quid pro quo. What he is asking for now is not!

His value will continue to increase. So I would bench him and let him rot in the reserves for a while - lets see how professional e really is. At some point you have to take a stand. And we are Manchester United. If we dont take a stand, who the feck will?! For the good of the game, its now out clubs time to take some responsibility in this area.

Whatever happens we have to avoid this happening to our next world-class player. Madrid can't keep using this tactic to poach our best players
 
Or perhaps when he does leave it allows players like Rooney to express himself more knowing that he doesn't have to sacrifice his football for Ronaldo. When 1 star leaves another takes the up the mantle.

If Ronnie does leave, it will obviousally effect the team, but I have confidence in our squad and know that they'd play above themselves to prove that Ronnie didn't win us the double.
 
Decided to log in from Bali for a quick update.

Looks like he wants out. Which is a pity. He may or may not leave this summer but the end is nigh. We'll cope though. We always do.

I guess it's panned out that the club hasn't managed to inspire the same sense of loyalty in him that it has done in us fans and his team-mates. Oh well, each to his own.

Whatever, he's been a magnificent footballer and I will always feel privileged to have watched him strut his stuff at Old Trafford.

Some of the bile, hatred and righteous indignation (with a hefty sprinkling of "I told you so" xenophobia) is profoundly depressing. Glad I've spend so little time on here in recent weeks.

I'm off to watch the sun set over the Indian ocean, with a cold beer in my hand and start to look forward to next season, with or without one of the best players ever to play for Manchester United. Life moves on an all that.

As you were gents.

:)

I don't hate Ronaldo but it's fair to say that foreign players are more likely to be less faithful then British players. And at their clubs as well.
 
Right! so when's the announcement then? any enquiries from Madid, yet? If not, why not? - they're so cocksure, after all. They'd have everything ready to move quickly, wouldn't they? they'd have sought permission to speak to the player yesterday, wouldn't they? just so nothing goes wrong. They've got the money, havn't they? Where can I listen to the 'interview'? The one with a Spanish journalist, the one we're supposed to have by now? keep searching the club website, must have forgotten to put it on.

Ah, I know, it's all going to happen 'in a couple of days'.
 
I have seen all those players live and none of them could match how ROnaldo has been this season, sorry. In terms of consistent performances year on year i take your point, but Ronaldo has been a different class

Except I have and I consider Ronaldo to be the most talented I've ever seen. Not the greatest but the most talented. It's an important difference.

OK, I dont disagree on that. My point is with or without him, we will carry on seeing great players, who knows maybe even someone even better. And whether is was the most talented of all of greats is a moot point. We dont need the BPITW to be successful ... He nearly cost us the CL and needed his team mates to bail him out if you remember?!

He may well be the most talented player under SAF (I still think that is Eric Cantona) but given his behaviour, I wont mourn his loss. And that is also an important differnce about how I feel about him vs out other genuine greats.
 
The Ballague interview sounded weirdly similar to a translation someone typed out a few pages ago of a post-match interview on Portugese television.
 
OK, I dont disagree on that. My point is with or without him, we will carry on seeing great players, who knows maybe even someone even better. And whether is was the most talented of all of greats is a moot point. We dont need the BPITW to be successful ... He nearly cost us the CL and needed his team mates to bail him out if you remember?!

He may well be the most talented player under SAF (I still think that is Eric Cantona) but given his behaviour, I wont mourn his loss. And that is also an important differnce about how I feel about him vs out other genuine greats.


I agree with everything you say.
 
Things change quickly in football though. Just because he has been outstanding for 2 years doesn't necessarily mean he will be for the next 2.
2 or 3 years ago Ronaldinho & Henry were the best players in the world, now look at them.

It is very true. This season Ronaldo had now will be hard as feck to recreate, and probably impossible to beat. I think we just saw the peak of his careers - in numbers. There are plenty of people who go downhill due to lack of motivation or just get some mental block keeping them from performing their best. Looking at Ronaldinho I think he lost his motivation, and Henry stayed too long in Arsenal + the fact I think he's having trouble changing as a player like you have to do during your career when you grow older and lose some of your speed.

I really don't agree with you what so ever on this. We've lost great players before through many different ways, but we've always come back. Recent history shows, that we thought we'd never replace Eric, Robson, Schmeichel, but we did and have.

We then look at those that had injury free careers as such or we thought were indestructible, I'll use Steve Coppell as your example for this. He holds the record for most consecutive games for United by an outfield player which stands at 207, then one horror challenge later, his knee and career was virtually knackered. We don't know what is around the corner for any player, let alone Ronaldo, as sublime as he has been a major injury could ruin his career.


I agree with you but the thing I meant was we won't be able to replace him tomorrow. Who knows when we'll have someone as talent like him again? On the other hand this might be the best thing to happen for players like Tevez, Carrick, Hargreaves and Rooney, for example. They could be given much more space and responsability which perhaps could bring back the old aggressive Rooney.
 
Decided to log in from Bali for a quick update.

Looks like he wants out. Which is a pity. He may or may not leave this summer but the end is nigh. We'll cope though. We always do.

I guess it's panned out that the club hasn't managed to inspire the same sense of loyalty in him that it has done in us fans and his team-mates. Oh well, each to his own.

Whatever, he's been a magnificent footballer and I will always feel privileged to have watched him strut his stuff at Old Trafford.

Some of the bile, hatred and righteous indignation (with a hefty sprinkling of "I told you so" xenophobia) on the last few pages of this thread is profoundly depressing. Glad I've spend so little time on here in recent weeks.

I'm off to watch the sun set over the Indian ocean, with a cold beer in my hand and start to look forward to next season, with or without one of the best players ever to play for Manchester United. Life moves on an all that.

As you were gents.

:)

If he had come out and said I want to go to Real Madrid from the off, then fair enough, thanks for the memories and goodbye. But the fact that he has deliberately carried this whole saga on only for the benefit of himself has wound me and a lot of other fans up. Add to the fact the complete lack of respect he shows for the club/fans/staff who have helped him get where he is then he is a Grade A Prick.

Have a nice holiday!
 
I don't hate Ronaldo but it's fair to say that foreign players are more likely to be less faithful then British players. And at their clubs as well.

OK, I'll put that beer off for another few minutes ;)

I agree with what you've said here. But another way of looking at it is that British players are less ambitious and willing to seek new challenges overseas?

Different strokes for different folks. If the lad wants to leave, so be it. He will have his own reasons and if he doesn't want to play for the club I'm inclined to think we're better off getting rid.

I'm not gonna hate him for it though. That's a bit childish and hysterical really. Life's too short for that kind of shite.

Now, about that Bintang...
 
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