ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Because he grew up in Portugal, watching Real, not Manchester United. His reason for wanting to go, if true, seems obvious. Also, his family would be close by. Plus, not sure if you're familiar with the weather in both countries, but Spain has a bit of an advantage. I wouldn't expect any player from a sunny country to stay in England too long. If they do, it's rare. Fabragas will be on his way at some point as well, everyone expects it.

Ok so he should forget the people and club who made him what he is because he wants to go and get a suntan?
 
You would like a United player on the field who didn't want to be there?
:nervous:

Yes. I can't see Ronaldo allowing himself not to fullfill his footballing destiny. I'm sure he knows that he will end up in Spain eventually with more cash than he knows what to do with whatever happens.
 
To be honest, I hope this is what happens. Bench him for 6 months and feck his mind and his form. Then sell the cnut for 50 million to some Italian team next summer cos we want to.

Feel 0% love for this slimeball cnut now. Nor do I care much for his contribution to my team.

I believe it is an important message to send, and it's one athletes here seem to understand. If you sign a contract, expect to see it out. It seems in Europe contracts have become a joke. What's the point of signing a contract if a player can just leave a few months later? It's fecking absurd. It is also very dangerous for a club of United's size to allow a player to demand a move. If he asks for the move, he should suffer in the reserves for a while. United will be fine without him. Other players will step up to fill the void (Rudd anyone?), I am far from concerned.
 
Ok so he should forget the people and club who made him what he is because he wants to go and get a suntan?

I think you over value what United is to a foreign player. To any player from Spain or Portugal, Real or Barcelona will always be a bigger club. It's in their blood. To see this otherwise is naive.
 
I really do not understand why Ronaldo would rather be in a circus than a football team that are European Champions and Champions of England.:wenger:
However if he is to be sold then replacements should be bought first otherwise they will become more expensive when teams know how much we have after a sale.

Totally agree with you on that. Also i'm sure SAF would have drawn up a potential list of replacements 2 seasons ago itself. He would definitely have foreseen this scenario.




Ronaldo you cnut you give us this shit in return for our affection :mad: I feel sick to the bone.
 
Funny thing... if he stays and spends another couple of season winning us trophiesm, we're going to have a load of people "apologising" for having turned against him... for the second time!

No, wont happen. I made a big mistake in thinking that he had United at his core, that this was the season that he converted even his most ardent critics who were never sure of his loyalties.

I dont support United cos we win trophies. Never have done and know the great days when we were just an aspiring side pre SAF. Thats the problem with alot of our support - you're all post SAF glory hunters.

Ronaldo really can go feck himself. And if thats the case and we stop winning trophies a few years, so be it (it wont happen anyway, SAF will create some magic somehow, he always does).

I just dont want this cnut at my club any more. He fecks around the man who I love most at Untied, SAF deserves better. Just like Beckham, he will fly too close to the sun and his wings will be clipped and like Icarus, will end his career with etrenal regret talking about his 'good old days' at United.

Well its amuses me when I hear Beckham whine, and it will amuse me when this cnut fecks his career at Madrid and pines for glory days at OT.
 
I believe it is an important message to send, and it's one athletes here seem to understand. If you sign a contract, expect to see it out. It seems in Europe contracts have become a joke. What's the point of signing a contract if a player can just leave a few months later? It's fecking absurd.

It is also very dangerous for a club of United's size to allow a player to demand a move. If he asks for the move, he should suffer in the reserves for a while.

United will be fine without him. Other players will step up to fill the void (Rudd anyone?), I am far from concerned.

Totally agree on these two points. I have no doubt in SAFs ability to manage this situation. He will juggle the sytem, intro 2 new starlets (Benzema & Nasri please) and we will carry on challanging for trophies, no doubt. And even if we did not, thats fine by me too.

What is not fine by me is pandering to the fancies of disloyal coniving cnuts like Ronaldo. I'm sickened by the Ronaldo cock suckers on this forum! When he leaves, Im hoping they leave with him to the Madrid website so they can carry on thier dalliances there.

But we must sell him cos we want to... and to teach him a hard lesson, feck his career a little. I would support that very strongly.
 
Chapter two gets underway. Exciting days.

"But Ferguson has backed chief executive David Gill's immovable stance over Ronaldo's contract and future. United's manager is fuming with Real's arrogance, saying: 'They ride roughshod over everyone but they won't do it with us.' "

Sorry, SAF, but they will, cos Ronnie wants to go.

Oh - he wants to go does he? Poor lamb! Bless!! Then maybe he should have thought twice about entering into a five year contract barely twelve months ago. It is becoming tedious to point out that the purpose of contracts is to protect the interests of BOTH parties, not merely to allow the one to depart according to whim, whilst obliging the other to settle for a woefully inadequate financial consideration.
 
No, wont happen. I made a big mistake in thinking that he had United at his core, that this was the season that he converted even his most ardent critics who were never sure of his loyalties.

I dont support United cos we win trophies. Never have done and know the great days when we were just an aspiring side pre SAF. Thats the problem with alot of our support - you're all post SAF glory hunters.

Ronaldo really can go feck himself. And if thats the case and we stop winning trophies a few years, so be it (it wont happen anyway, SAF will create some magic somehow, he always does).

I just dont want this cnut at my club any more. He fecks around the man who I love most at Untied, SAF deserves better. Just like Beckham, he will fly too close to the sun and his wings will be clipped and like Icarus, will end his career with etrenal regret talking about his 'good old days' at United.

Well its amuses me when I hear Beckham whine, and it will amuse me when this cnut fecks his career at Madrid and pines for glory days at OT.

Totally agree on these two points. I have no doubt is SAFs ability to manage this situation. He will juggle the sytem, intro 2 new starlets and we will carry on challanging for trophies, no doubt. And even if we did not, thats fine by me too.

What is not fine by me is pandering to the fancies of disloyal coniving cnuts like Ronaldo. I'm sickened by the Ronaldo cock suckers on this forum! When he leaves, Im hoping they leave with him to the Madrid website so they can carry on thier dalliances there.

But we must sell him cos we want to... and to teach him a hard lesson, feck his career a little. I would support that very strongly.




Good couple of posts. I totally agree with everything you have said.
 
would prefer Casillas & Ramos please

whats the point in replacing a winger with a goalkeeper and a defender? BTW these two players where considered unreplaceble by Real's management and fans alike.
 
United are adamand he is not for sale. He has 4 years left on a contract. He signed the contract. feck him if he wants to go. Keep him for two years and then sell him. His market value will probably still be the same. And if not, it means that he will have gone shite and Madrid probably won't want him then anyway.

So that's the way I'd look at it. Keep the fecker for 2 years and then sell him. There is no hope in football unless a player is at least willing to try to honour his contract.
 
No, wont happen. I made a big mistake in thinking that he had United at his core, that this was the season that he converted even his most ardent critics who were never sure of his loyalties.
Yes, that was a big mistake. He has always said that he wants to move to Spain one day. I have no doubt that, in his own way, he loves Man Utd. But it's more his team-mates and the personnel at the club he loves, the club itself not-so-much.

It would be exactly the same as if you were a professional footballer playing for a team like Real, Barca, Milan, Bayern, etc. You'd be happy and enjoying yourself, and you'd always have a place in your heart for that team. But in the back of your mind you'd always have the thought that you'd want to play in England at some point (exactly as Hargreaves did). Then Man Utd make a move for you, what would you do? Personally, I'd do very similar to what Ronaldo has done. Make it obvious you'd be happy to join them, but you'd also be happy to stay at your current club. And with a bit of give-and-take, there would come to be an understanding that you'd stay at the club for now, but will be allowed to join Man Utd in a season or two. Which is exactly what will happen here with Ronaldo.

Real have acted like absolute conniving bastards in this. But Ronaldo has done nothing that I wouldn't have expected. But because the media have also been so sneaky and whipped up hysteria, everyone turns against him.

:rolleyes:
 
""It is my opinion," Ronaldo added. "That is why I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision. It is what I want." "
 
Yes, that was a big mistake. He has always said that he wants to move to Spain one day. I have no doubt that, in his own way, he loves Man Utd. But it's more his team-mates and the personnel at the club he loves, the club itself not-so-much.

It would be exactly the same as if you were a professional footballer playing for a team like Real, Barca, Milan, Bayern, etc. You'd be happy and enjoying yourself, and you'd always have a place in your heart for that team. But in the back of your mind you'd always have the thought that you'd want to play in England at some point (exactly as Hargreaves did). Then Man Utd make a move for you, what would you do? Personally, I'd do very similar to what Ronaldo has done. Make it obvious you'd be happy to join them, but you'd also be happy to stay at your current club. And with a bit of give-and-take, there would come to be an understanding that you'd stay at the club for now, but will be allowed to join Man Utd in a season or two. Which is exactly what will happen here with Ronaldo.

Real have acted like absolute conniving bastards in this. But Ronaldo has done nothing that I wouldn't have expected. But because the media have also been so sneaky and whipped up hysteria, everyone turns against him.

:rolleyes:

What's the point in keeping a player whose mind is set on another team? Bayern did that and they ended up in the UEFA cup. Mind Ronaldo is an excellent player, probably the player in the world. There again Id rather have a team who are totally concentrated on our cause then one whose dreaming about Franco's team.
 
Whats wrong with you lot? If he wants to go, let him fecking go.
He has a right. He says he had already been thinking about it for months and decided before the CL. Yet amidst this uncertainty, he's played his heart out, scored goals, driven us to the double, and not just that we won the CL for only 3rd time in history. What more do you want from a guy who's always said from day 1 he wants to play in spain?

Think of it as a farewell present from him to us. He doesn't have united in his blood, what can you do? Do you think anderson, tevez or nani have united in their blood? FFS probably no. They are players, they do their best, they come and go. Not every foreigner is a cantona or solskjaer.

I wish Ronaldo well, and thanks for the memories. He will always be in united folklore. Without him, we'd have done nothing these couple of seasons. And by the way, Scolari's a cnut and I hope Ronaldo wins nothing just for listening to that idiot.

So for the last time:

He plays on the left,
He plays on the right,
That boy Ronaldo,
Makes england look shite.

Viva Ronaldo..
Viva Ronaldo..
Running down the wing,
Hear united sing,
Viva Ronaldo..

Shame...the viva ronaldo song was a fecking mint song...too bad it only lasted one season.
 
Whats wrong with you lot? If he wants to go, let him fecking go.
He has a right. He says he had already been thinking about it for months and decided before the CL.

In all seriousness, why contracts over one year, then? What is the point, exactly?

And what is his "right?"
 
This whole saga has pissed me off, it's fecking ruined my summer when all I should be doing is bragging about united being double champions.

Crunts are laughing at us for fecks sake !!

Ronaldo is a first class Crunt, people blame Madrid, but who put out the come and get me signals after the CL final?

12 months after signing a new conract !.. well for a start, he should pay back the pay rise, the greedy twat !

Clubs should only pay half the players wages now, and the other half as a loyalty bonus lump sum at the end of their contract.
 
United are adamand he is not for sale. He has 4 years left on a contract. He signed the contract. feck him if he wants to go. Keep him for two years and then sell him. His market value will probably still be the same. And if not, it means that he will have gone shite and Madrid probably won't want him then anyway.

So that's the way I'd look at it. Keep the fecker for 2 years and then sell him. There is no hope in football unless a player is at least willing to try to honour his contract.

:rolleyes: Fair enough points mate. But say for example we wanted to buy Bebratov from Spurs. He wants to come, we want to offer big money.

Yet levy/ramos comes out and say he's rotting in the reserves for two years, they're not selling him. You'd say they're career ruiners and real cnuts.

Double standards, IMO. Let him leave. We'll be just fine.
 
In all seriousness, why contracts over one year, then? What is the point, exactly?

And what is his "right?"

His right is to play anywhere he fecking wants.

Just like rooney had the right to play anywhere he fecking wanted when at everton. Just like yorke had the right to play anywhere he fecking wanted, leading John Gregory to say, "if i had a gun, i'd have shot him". Just like hargreaves had the right to play anywhere he fecking wanted. Its double standards if we dont let ronnie do what he wants

You're right about the contracts. But i reckon that is more about protecting the club in terms of transfer fees recouped rather than anything else. Its hardly ever indicative of how long a player is going to stay.

Think about it, how many players do you know that ever sign their contracts then see it out all the way? Its sad, but thats football these days.
 
Ronaldo wants 'dream' Real move

Ronaldo scored 42 goals for Man Utd last season
Cristiano Ronaldo says he hopes to "complete his dream" of moving to Real Madrid despite Manchester United insisting he is "not for sale".

The European champions said on Friday: "We are not listening to offers."

But the Portugal winger, 23, has signalled his intention to "take advantage of a great opportunity".

"Everybody knows what I want, but things don't only depend on me," he said. "I am not the person who decides. But I hope to complete my dream."

Ronaldo said he made up his mind before the Champions League final that he wanted to leave United for Real.

And he revealed that Luiz Felipe Scolari, about to take over at Chelsea after Portugal's exit from Euro 2008, advised him to make the move.

I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision

Cristiano Ronaldo
"It is a dream, a step forward," Ronaldo replied when asked about the prospect of playing at the Bernabau.

"For me it is a great opportunity and as Scolari says, that train passes by only once and we have to take advantage of it."

Ronaldo indicated he will make a public statement about his plans over the next few days.

He said he had not spoken to Sir Alex Ferguson, who is on holiday in France, during his participation in Euro 2008.

And he insisted he is not worried about upsetting the United boss, who he is set to meet for talks about his future after Portugal's exit against Germany on Thursday.

"It is my opinion," Ronaldo added. "That is why I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision. It is what I want."

606: DEBATE
What is Ronaldo on? Real Madrid is a step forward from Manchester United? In what universe are they a step forward?

anaconda6901
The midfielder was in scintillating form throughout the domestic season and scored 42 goals as United claimed a Premier League and Champions League double.

United have already reported Real Madrid to world governing body Fifa over their public courtship of Ronaldo, although the organisation decided to take no formal action.

Ronaldo's possible transfer fee has been put at between £50m and £80m.

"They (United) might make a stand for a period of time," agent Phil Smith told BBC Radio 5 Live. "But clearly you don't want to destroy the atmosphere at the football club."

Ronaldo revealed after Portugal's 3-2 defeat by Germany that he requires surgery on a foot injury which has been bothering him for three months.

"I'm going to have an operation now," said the winger.

"I have had a small problem for about three months. I'll have the operation and then have a good recovery period."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7463439.stm
 
He made a decision before the CL Final - and that was to stay at United,

"I gotta stay"

Then, Madrid began to flirt with him, and fecked his head up.

One meeting with the Sir Alex, and it'll be confirmed he is staying.
 
United had a right to be told and not messed around. THAT is where a lot of the problem comes into it. This in turn caused grief for a lot of United fans.

as for Scolari how he met his wifes an interesting story and says everything about the classless wanker.
 
Because he grew up in Portugal, watching Real, not Manchester United. His reason for wanting to go, if true, seems obvious. Also, his family would be close by. Plus, not sure if you're familiar with the weather in both countries, but Spain has a bit of an advantage. I wouldn't expect any player from a sunny country to stay in England too long. If they do, it's rare. Fabragas will be on his way at some point as well, everyone expects it.

So Madeira is now close to central Spain? Is it global warming or what?
 
Let's take £100m off Real, ask for it straight up, use that to pay off some of the debts, because I am so sure that SAF and Carlos will be able to find the next boy wonder, at a similar price they found for Ronaldo.

It would hurt United to let him go right now, without a shadow of a doubt, but looking at what he's supposed to have said and what he'd done at United, it's perhaps a little hard why he's saying this right now. He's obviously wants to play in Spain, I don't think that has ever been a debating point, it was always a matter of when. Since his arrival at United he's won every domestic cup, he's won the biggest cup in European club football, and virtually every individual honour around. I'm guessing that what lies ahead is money, and that's it. What challenges has he got? It's not like Real are a small club with plenty of ambitions and he wants to take them to some where special. That sort of thing doesn't happen these days.

On the other hand it would be nice to see the club take a stance on the contract, but I'm sure that should they, Ronaldo and his agents may well take it to first Uefa and then the European courts and use it as a test case or some sort. However, as with Bosman, whose career was ended by his court case in many respects, that sort of thing might see Ronaldo turn into a shadow of the player he is, and whilst my own feeling grow increasingly against him for what appears to be a betrayal of the club I love, it would be a loss to football as a sport, of the scale not seen since perhaps George Best left the sport too early.

United have lost great players in the past, through tragedy, through retirement and through transfers, yet we always come back. Selling Ronaldo will hurt, but we will still be United, we will still be champions of England and the champions of Europe..
 
went from 100m to 80m to 75 m to 60m to 50m and now its 45m+sneijder:S

madrid dont have the money do they ... sad bastards
 
Let's take £100m off Real, ask for it straight up, use that to pay off some of the debts, because I am so sure that SAF and Carlos will be able to find the next boy wonder, at a similar price they found for Ronaldo.

It would hurt United to let him go right now, without a shadow of a doubt, but looking at what he's supposed to have said and what he'd done at United, it's perhaps a little hard why he's saying this right now. He's obviously wants to play in Spain, I don't think that has ever been a debating point, it was always a matter of when. Since his arrival at United he's won every domestic cup, he's won the biggest cup in European club football, and virtually every individual honour around. I'm guessing that what lies ahead is money, and that's it. What challenges has he got? It's not like Real are a small club with plenty of ambitions and he wants to take them to some where special. That sort of thing doesn't happen these days.

On the other hand it would be nice to see the club take a stance on the contract, but I'm sure that should they, Ronaldo and his agents may well take it to first Uefa and then the European courts and use it as a test case or some sort. However, as with Bosman, whose career was ended by his court case in many respects, that sort of thing might see Ronaldo turn into a shadow of the player he is, and whilst my own feeling grow increasingly against him for what appears to be a betrayal of the club I love, it would be a loss to football as a sport, of the scale not seen since perhaps George Best left the sport too early.

United have lost great players in the past, through tragedy, through retirement and through transfers, yet we always come back. Selling Ronaldo will hurt, but we will still be United, we will still be champions of England and the champions of Europe..

So should we sell our best player to solve Glazer's mess? Thats nice.
 
I just hope United makes sure that IF they sell Ronaldo they feck Madrid up and demand at least 80m.
 
However, as with Bosman, whose career was ended by his court case in many respects, that sort of thing might see Ronaldo turn into a shadow of the player he is, and whilst my own feeling grow increasingly against him for what appears to be a betrayal of the club I love, it would be a loss to football as a sport, of the scale not seen since perhaps George Best left the sport too early.

My feelings are not quite as noble as yours. It would not be a tragedy if such a slimeball cnut with extremly dubious personality traits were to implode his career in his self pursuit for glory and fame.
 
I'd take it. Ronaldo is acting like a cnut and treating Sir Alex and the club in a way that is not acceptable

If Ronaldo really wants to leave then I dont mind such sum. Sneijder scored 9 goals in 30 matches. Not a bad record for a midfielder. I wouldn't mind if we put Robinho in the deal too.
 
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