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Id be more than happy with that. I'll leave you gents to debate the bollox out of this one!!!
Ballague was also saying that Real have up to 100m Euros in a special account to sign Ronaldo.
He also said they will pay 75m.
That's less than half of the 120m POUNDS they were talking about before.
This after they also announced that he would be worth 500m Euro to them in the first year or so via marketing.
I think Real have dug themselves an huge financial hole here.
He also said they will pay 75m.
That's less than half of the 120m POUNDS they were talking about before.
This after they also announced that he would be worth 500m Euro to them in the first year or so via marketing.
I think Real have dug themselves an huge financial hole here.
I thought that was a very interesting exchange given the spin placed upon the interview as well.
Balague has just put his reputation on the line with that, it's either true, or he's risking his employment with Sky and other media agencies for fabricating a fake exclusive interview with Ronaldo. I think he wants to go and even I think a lot of that sounds like bullshit, but I guess we'll soon see
I'll tell you a classier situation. Ronaldo says he wants to go to Madrid at the end of his current United contract, and he praises the club and its loyal supporters who've treated him so well. United will obviously sell him with 2-3 years left of his contract in order to get a top transfer fee for him. Ronaldo would have what he wants, a move to Madrid, but would achieve it with far more dignity and respect. We'd remember him as a great player to have adorned Old Trafford. If he goes this summer now, he's ruined his reputation, and sullied his achievements with the club. You'd like to think he actually cares about that, but I immensely doubt he gives two shits what we think of him
All of this reminds me precisely why Ferguson looked after Ryan Giggs so strictly in his early years. It kept the lad on an even kiel, and stopped him getting carried away with his own talent
I've haven't a fecking clue what to make of that
Did S.A.F. hint to us about this situation when he said Ronnie would be here for at least two more seasons and he could not control how would Ronnie think by then?
What thinks you?
Ballague, a notorious liar and transfer muppet, promised to put the interview as an AUDIO download on his site, then only puts a transcript up.
He claimed on Sky that everything Ronaldo said indicated he absolutely would leave and expects to leave.
He conveniently left out the "score a few goals" comment.
That interview shows his indecision to me. He wants the both of best worlds: he wants to carry on scoring goals for United, maintaining the status quo, making the fans happy, but he also wants to play for Real Madrid, fulfil a boyhood dream, please his family and make sure United get a hefty sum of cash in return.
He can't have it both ways, but he wants to. That's why, I think, he keeps putting off this decision, and why he's going to go on holiday immediately. He doesn't want to have to make the decision; he wants to run away and hope it all resolves itself in his absence, so there's no tough choices to make and no one's angry with him.
He's a coward, in that respect. It's showing through here: he doesn't want to make the choice. And it showed after the '06 World Cup, where, after pissing off the English fans, he chose to cut and run to Spain, and it took some serious persuading by Ferguson to make him stay. On the field he's a brave giant of a man, but when it comes to matters like this he's a little girl.
He can't have it both ways, but he wants to. That's why, I think, he keeps putting off this decision, and why he's going to go on holiday immediately. He doesn't want to have to make the decision; he wants to run away and hope it all resolves itself in his absence, so there's no tough choices to make and no one's angry with him.
He's a coward, in that respect. It's showing through here: he doesn't want to make the choice. And it showed after the '06 World Cup, where, after pissing off the English fans, he chose to cut and run to Spain, and it took some serious persuading by Ferguson to make him stay. On the field he's a brave giant of a man, but when it comes to matters like this he's a little girl.
cnuts cough up £70m or feck right off, talk big money let's see it.
He would make up a fake transcript on a major television network? Hard to believe...
Amazing. You could take out portions and be convinced he is staying and other portions and be convinced he is going.
I'm more irritated with Ronaldo than anyone else. Just fecking say whatever it is you are doing and get it over with.
I can't see what Ronaldo's done wrong. He's been at the club for five years now, and he's obviously decided to move on. Big fecking deal. Have none of you ever decided to change jobs?
As for the way he's handled himself, I don't really see what other way he could've gone about it. Come out and say publicly that he wants a move to Madrid, before any deal's been finalised? I don't think so. For someone who's constantly being questioned on his his future, he's actually handled it very well.
I wish him all the best.
As for the way he's handled himself, I don't really see what other way he could've gone about it. Come out and say publicly that he wants a move to Madrid, before any deal's been finalised? I don't think so. For someone who's constantly being questioned on his his future, he's actually handled it very well.
I wish him all the best.
He told the world United had definitely signed Torres and Senna.
For sure.
Absolutely done deal. He had talked exclusively to people very high up at United and the agents of the players.
He was lying his tits off.
You can't make up and print a full transcript of an interview with a named person.
If Ballegue has made it up he will get rumbled very quickly, although I suspect he hasn't.
The goals comment could be a dig or a slight at the fans. He could be saying here you can be a legend after such and such but to be truely tested you have to be in an environment where you get cynical fans and it's not so easy
I was watching the awards show, and people calling him a legend and such and it made me cringe. Some people you can do that with but Ronaldo if you want to keep his feet on the ground, don't feed him
He wins every personal award, it's practically the Ronaldo awards
That said as Jason said where's the audio? You would think it would take less time to upload audio then to write up a transcript.
I think he's just jumped on the bandwagon and taken a chance at being the one with the exclusives etc but we'll see.
ps: I'm not saying it was a dig, it depends on the context it was said. I don't personally believe that but it's another way of looking at it
I was watching the awards show, and people calling him a legend and such and it made me cringe. Some people you can do that with but Ronaldo if you want to keep his feet on the ground, don't feed him
He wins every personal award, it's practically the Ronaldo awards
That said as Jason said where's the audio? You would think it would take less time to upload audio then to write up a transcript.
I think he's just jumped on the bandwagon and taken a chance at being the one with the exclusives etc but we'll see.
ps: I'm not saying it was a dig, it depends on the context it was said. I don't personally believe that but it's another way of looking at it
I think - given my upcoming early start today after a very few hours sleep - that I'm going to wade through the stuff after work and see what's happened.
Though I don't expect any concrete news to appear until I'm on holiday in France.
Ronaldo knows it isn't his decision. If United don't want to sell then he can't move. He can throw a few tantrums between now and the end of August but if Sir Alex keeps his nerve then Ronaldo will still be playing for United come September.
He certainly has wildly mischaracterised it on tv - the 'score a few goals' bit is a pretty damned big indication he expects to be at United next year. Ballague says its guaranteed he won't be.
He would have no compunction with editing the feck out of it I suspect.
And where is that audio he was putting up within 10 minutes nearly four hours ago?
It is still possible the vague nature of his statements and the two day time frame have to do with negotiations. He and his agent may well have said to United offer us a better contract or we want away to Madrid. That might explain the mixed messages.
how would you lot feel towards him if it was determined that he would stay for one more season and then go to madrid?
I'd think that is still very much in the frame.
He said he made the decision prior to the CL final (according to the Ballague 'transcript'), but on the night of the CL final he said "I stay".
That makes me think either the decision was 1) stump up more money or I'll want off; or 2) I want one or two more years here but then I want to leave.
I could accept that and wish him well.
Sure you're not goign to replace Ronaldo overnight but we could lay the foundations well enough, we'd adapt.
And as for having our best interests at heart?
Well, that is quite debatable.
Words suchas these tend to dilute that claim >>
Nothing to say to each other huh? Couldn't find 30 seconds in nigh on a momth to do your manager and those who have shown such faith in you, the courtesy of reassuring them of your position, or the supporters even?
Stay or not, Ronaldo's reputation is damanged in the eyes of both the Portuguese and ourselves if these quotes are genuine.
I was thinking that too but what contradicts that is his statement about it being a dream and his family's dream. We all know his family don't dream of him playing for united his whole career and he personally doesn't feel that way either so it makes me lean towards him wanting to go madrid.
would you cheer for him and feel that same towards him as you did the season that past?
Most of what the Bal-ache interview portrayed would fit that idea I reckon.
My doubt would centre around the 'dream for himself & his family' quote. Unless this was something about a CR7-Nike deal that included a charity percentage (& I don't think he's that selfless) then a Madrid move would seem to be indicated in that section - the question might be 'when?'
What make you think SAF tried to contact him?
Post #7777 is the all important thing now.
Read a comment by a Real Madrid fan that their club are adamant they will not pay through their nose for Ronnie. This will drag on for a while.
Certainly...he dreams of playing for Madrid...unless United offer him 160,000 Pounds a week...then he dreams of it "at some point in the future".
Just sell him, if he wants to leave then why hang on to him? Sure he's the best in the world at the moment but let's be honest, do we really want to hang on to someone who wants to play for Real Madrid this bad?
We can get Sneijder, Ramos and cash... they really don't need to have both Ronaldo and Sneijder so it would work out pretty good for United plus Ramos has hinted he wants to come over. In all honesty, I don't want United to keep a player that wants to play for another team, whoever he is. I'm also pretty sure that Ronaldo will find out the hard way that Madrid really isn't the best place to be in the long run.
We can get Sneijder, Ramos and cash... they really don't need to have both Ronaldo and Sneijder so it would work out pretty good for United plus Ramos has hinted he wants to come over. In all honesty, I don't want United to keep a player that wants to play for another team, whoever he is. I'm also pretty sure that Ronaldo will find out the hard way that Madrid really isn't the best place to be in the long run.
I'd offer him a new contract straight away, as it will mean that instead of him staying for 1-2 years, it will be 2-3 years, as we will get an extra year from Ronaldo without hurting our bargaining position when we decide to sell him.
Sure you can, at least in this case, were we're not talking about completely making up an interview, but (hypothetically) slightly altering wordings in a certain direction. It's (probably) not like Ronaldo brought his own recording device in order to be able to disprove the (hypothetical) lying journalist's transcripted version.
I don't think he's a coward, its just that in all probability he doesn't know what he wants. The scenarios I believe are:
1) If he goes to madrid he'll come to regret it and wish he had stayed at united
2) if he stays united and wins it all again for consecutive years or whatnot will he come to regret it and think that he could've also acheived it all with madrid.
I think he's having a battle with his mind and heart right now with his heart swaying for madrid and his mind saying united.
I expect a huge twist in the next couple of days to be honest. Im off to bed after the 7777th post. I think I'm starting to develop OCD because of this shit.
I never implied nor suggested that eh did aas far as i can tell.
Robinho, Queresma, Robben, Ronaldinho can all feck right off.
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