ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Anyone who thinks Ronaldo isn't seriously considering a move to Real Madrid is burying their heads in the sand, yes.

Similarly, anyone who thinks we don't have a very good chance of holding onto him, who thinks that he is somehow a traitor for even considering a move abroad, or who thinks that we should sell him regardless is just being silly.

IMHO.

I expect Ronaldo to consider moving to Madrid...


... later in his career. ;)
 
Pogue, does it not bother you that our best player is seriously considering leaving?

Of course it bothers me! It fecking sucks.

But I understand how a footballer from the Iberian peninsuala, who grew up supporting Real Madrid, who is fecked off with the Manchester weather, who has family members bending his ear about a move, who has a Spanish missus, who is being offered an unbelievable amount of money etc. etc. etc, would be - at the very least - torn between a move and sitting tight.

And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.
 
Anyone who thinks Ronaldo isn't seriously considering a move to Real Madrid is burying their heads in the sand, yes.

Similarly, anyone who thinks we don't have a very good chance of holding onto him, who thinks that he is somehow a traitor for even considering a move abroad, or who thinks that we should sell him regardless is just being silly.

IMHO.


I'm on a similar wavelength.

Like ourselves he's not a die hard fan, so understandably he's angling for the best deal possible. I can also understand people feeling down when just a few weeks ago we lost our voice singing his songs.

Anyway we hold all the trump cards unless Ronaldo openly declares his wish to move only to Real.
 
Of course it bothers me! It fecking sucks.

But I understand how a footballer from the Iberian peninsuala, who grew up supporting Real Madrid, who is fecked off with the Manchester weather, who has family members bending his ear about a move, who has a Spanish missus, who is being offered an unbelievable amount of money etc. etc. etc, would be - at the very least - torn between a move and sitting tight.

And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.

Fair enough. Can't argue with any of that.
 
I'm on a similar wavelength.

Like ourselves he's not a die hard fan, so understandably he's angling for the best deal possible. I can also understand people feeling down when just a few weeks ago we lost our voice singing his songs.

Anyway we hold all the trump cards unless Ronaldo openly declares his wish to move only to Real.

Yep. I'd agree with all of that.

And I do understand people being down. When someone is potentially turning his back on that level of adulation, it's hard not to feel rejected and pissed off.

But some of the more hateful shite is a bit hysterical, IMO, especially when there's a very real chance he'll be playing for United next season.
 
None of the direct reliable quotes from Ronaldo involve him moving this summer - lots of remarks do but all of these are comment/propaganda/spin.

The propaganda campaign has been very effective on most caftards it seems.

I have absolutely no intention of getting locked in a debate with you about anything. I've been there before and it's a thankless task.

If you're intent on believing that Ronaldo isn't even contemplating a move to Real this summer then, by all means, go right ahead. Don't let me put you off.
 
Of course it bothers me! It fecking sucks.

But I understand how a footballer from the Iberian peninsuala, who grew up supporting Real Madrid, who is fecked off with the Manchester weather, who has family members bending his ear about a move, who has a Spanish missus, who is being offered an unbelievable amount of money etc. etc. etc, would be - at the very least - torn between a move and sitting tight.

And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.

Good call, i just need clarity and the speculation is a bitch
 
None of the direct reliable quotes from Ronaldo involve him moving this summer - lots of remarks do but all of these are comment/propaganda/spin.

The propaganda campaign has been very effective on most caftards it seems.

Come on K, it's not just the caftards. Gill, SAF, Carlos, and many United players past and present have fallen prey to the propaganda, and not without good reason.

Is there absolutely no substance to these rumours?
 
Of course it bothers me! It fecking sucks.

But I understand how a footballer from the Iberian peninsuala, who grew up supporting Real Madrid, who is fecked off with the Manchester weather, who has family members bending his ear about a move, who has a Spanish missus, who is being offered an unbelievable amount of money etc. etc. etc, would be - at the very least - torn between a move and sitting tight.

And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.


Great post
 
I don't like him... whether he stays or goes. Never have.

I HATE the way he goes mental when he scores and everyone runs after him... but if someone else scores - no matter how big the goal - he just strolls over to them and pats 'em on the back...


BUT he's an amazing footballer and I support all United players.
 
Will we sell him right away if he comes back saying "I'm off to Madrid next summer"? I reckon we will, but shouldn't.
 
I don't like him... whether he stays or goes. Never have.

I HATE the way he goes mental when he scores and everyone runs after him... but if someone else scores - no matter how big the goal - he just strolls over to them and pats 'em on the back...


BUT he's an amazing footballer and I support all United players.

How dare he celebrate a goal HE's just scored! :rolleyes:
 
I don't like him... whether he stays or goes. Never have.

I HATE the way he goes mental when he scores and everyone runs after him... but if someone else scores - no matter how big the goal - he just strolls over to them and pats 'em on the back...


BUT he's an amazing footballer and I support all United players.

Don't be ridiculous. I've the body language thing many of you say about Ronnie and he was not one bit different when he played yesterday.
 
Don't know if this has been posted;

It appears that everybody has their opinion on Ronaldo’s future, and this time his brother Hugo Santos Aveiro has declared that the Manchester United hero will move to Real Madrid in the close future.

After Ronaldo’s first coach, mother and then godfather all offered their thoughts on his future, his brother has been questioned about the Portugal international’s plans.

Hugo confirmed that the attacker, currently in Austria and Switzerland with his national team, has decided he will wear the famous Merengue shirt next term.

His relative also revealed that if the former Sporting ace does not move to Spain this summer, he will do so in the close future.

He wants to play for Real Madrid next season,” Hugo told LaSexta.

“From now or within one or two years he will go to Real Madrid.

“Personally, I’d like it, I’d love it.”

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/06/08/Prem-Ronaldos-brother-on-future/
 
I think Ron's having a problem lying. I think he said what he felt before he went off to the Euros - that he'd be staying at United.

And I think the combination of getting a way better offer than he expected from Real Madrid (not just a pay rise but an image rights deal that is, allegedly, nothing like the deals that Madrid have designed before) and the pressure from family, dreams, the media and some warning that said: "It's a one time offer," has left him with a problem. And he's trying to handle it as best he can while still delivering what he needs to on the field.

If he turns them down flat - he risks that "one time" thing being real.
If he accepts their offer and tries to pressurise United, then in the process he'll alienate (even further) press, fans, club and leave a lot of bad feelings.
If he gets United to reject the offer then there may be less risk on the "one time" thing (Calderon/Madrid not losing face over it) and he may at some point, to be agreed, be able to walk away from United with fewer hard feelings.

It is a decision, and needs movement on United's side (an improved contract maybe, and certainly - because he takes such stuff to heart - reassurance that his bosses don't consider him so unprofessional that he'd ever choose to deliver anything less than his best, and therefore comments about "stay on the bench" or "rot in the reserves" were just paper talk)

I don't think he's playing. I think he's trying to handle a set of incompatible desires and do it without ruining Portugal's (and his) tournament.

SAF said a couple of weeks back something about how only the manager can be patient because fans and press aren't. I think we're seeing a mini version of it here. We want Ron to take a potentially life (or at least career) changing decision NOW because we want to get on with our lives. When actually the person most affected by any decision is Ron himself.

And I will now step off my soapbox and watch the second half of the Germany match.

I recognise that you want to give him the benefit of the doubt as much as possible, but some of what you are saying is greater speculation than someone such as say...Graham Hunter, claiming that his undersanding of the situationis that Ronaldo or his agent have been in talks with Real for soem time now [and he has sources].

You make Ronaldo out to be this victim, and it is we as a club who must reassure him you say? I would say at best, it is a two way street, at worst...

You trust him and that's fine, but i and others find it difficult to do so.


It's very normal, and Ronaldo is responsible for his agents actions.

Some on here are still burying their heads in the sand, and blame Real for all the problems - Ronaldo has not been a saint in this fiasco.

Agreed
 
whatever happens, happens.

That said..

Ronaldos family should keep shut to be frank. If they read this, it's Ronaldos future and if he's happy where he is who gives a flying feck what you people like?

There's enough pressure without you, who are only known, off his back.

But anyway, we should ignore all the bollocks and just enjoy the football
 
Of course it bothers me! It fecking sucks.

But I understand how a footballer from the Iberian peninsuala, who grew up supporting Real Madrid, who is fecked off with the Manchester weather, who has family members bending his ear about a move, who has a Spanish missus, who is being offered an unbelievable amount of money etc. etc. etc, would be - at the very least - torn between a move and sitting tight.

And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.

If only posts could be framed! Top stuff Pogue and I agree completely.

We should look into giving this post a thread of its own or making it appear as soon as someone enters this thread.
 
whatever happens, happens.

That said..

Ronaldos family should keep shut to be frank. If they read this, it's Ronaldos future and if he's happy where he is who gives a flying feck what you people like?

There's enough pressure without you, who are only known, off his back.

But anyway, we should ignore all the bollocks and just enjoy the football

Harsh and must disagree, in fact if it were for family reasons and that is what he stated i could respect such a cause as i said earlier in the thread.

This talk of wages and imae right, now that is a different kettle of fish entirely, a rather more distasteful one at that, one i should find difficult to respect. But the greed of man, it knows no end.

And if he spurns them and a lifelong dream, will he continut to be happy here? We simply don't know, we would hope that it wouldn't be too problamaitc.
 
If only posts could be framed! Top stuff Pogue and I agree completely.

We should look into giving this post a thread of its own or making it appear as soon as someone enters this thread.

:eek: Or you could just suck his e-cock and be done with it. Decent post, did not include the cure for aids or anything though.
 
If only posts could be framed! Top stuff Pogue and I agree completely.

We should look into giving this post a thread of its own or making it appear as soon as someone enters this thread.
Easy now, don't get your cock out too much. We wouldn't want someone on this forum with as big ego as Mr Cristiano's, would we?
 
:eek: Or you could just suck his e-cock and be done with it. Decent post, did not include the cure for aids or anything though.

I'll be honest here in telling you that when I read posts on the Caf I don't expect them to cure me of AIDS.

If you're logging on with a different set of expectations, I would suggest you seek independent medical attention.
 
Harsh and must disagree, in fact if it were for family reasons and that is what he stated i could respect such a cause as i said earlier in the thread.

This talk of wages and imae right, now that is a different kettle of fish entirely, a rather more distasteful one at that, one i should find difficult to respect. But the greed of man, it knows no end.

And if he spurns them and a lifelong dream, will he continut to be happy here? We simply don't know, we would hope that it wouldn't be too problamaitc.

First of all Ronaldos family has used Ronaldos success to make careers for themselves. I understand the workings of a family but they should keep it in house. In my opinion. When you open it to the world you create more pressure.

The simple fact is for me football is a simple game but now it's the agent speeks out, directors, players, family members, pets. It's sick

It's this new craze that relations of celebs are 'famous' by association. Something thats lame in my opinion

It maybe a dream to play for madrid but it's a balancing act. If Ronaldo is intelligent he must realise we are in a better position to give him everything football related.

You don't need to play in spain to be recognised as the best player in the world. When you listen to the family, his mum at the minutes pro united while his brother etc is pro madrid and I sit here and think.....

What does Ronaldo want? Without this pressure of other peoples wants, what does he want to do?

I think Ronaldo does care and whatever he decides won't take away the quality he's produced. But dream or no dream, he would be turning his back on something more amazing then real madrid and spain.

His girlfriend isn't fussed where he lives, his mums is ok with him etc. What i'm saying is Ronaldo is a man. If his family want to go to spain, they're free too but let the guy make his own decision.

They can go if they want too, but when it comes to football the only people that really should give advice are the people that care about his development and they are the people that work with him everyday. (clearly :nervous:)

Just to add i'm not having a go at Ronaldo, far from it. The people that are ment to keep you grounded are your loved ones but if some lack sense then it's no wonder it's difficult for him to decide.

Do i go to spain and live out a fantasy that might turn sour or do I stay where i'm happy?...
 
And when that footballer has brought us so much recent success, I'm not gonna crucify him for being tempted.

It is not Roanldo being tempted that is the problem, two feced, it is him taking people for fools, it is him believing it acceptable to fuel uncertainty and drag matters out through the press for weeks on end. Where is his consideration for the club and the maanger, perhaps plans we have that have been affected by this, players who were on the erge of signing but nwo the pen is hvoering.

This whole episode has never beenn out of his control and it still isn't. Yeah he is advised by his agent, though surely he can think for himself, he has eyes to see what ahs resulted from their actions does he not?


As for all his ambiguity about the move (and somehow "messing us round") I would be a lot more pissed off if he was any less indecisive. The fact he is so clearly still in two minds makes me a lot less inclined to hate the guy.

Care to elaborate on that one?

Not to mention that we don't knwo if he is indecisive, he could be playing us. He coudl be quite sure in fact.
 
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