ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Very biased pre-match analysis of the lad. They were basically saying he has to perform in the big club tournaments(which he has), and also in international tournaments(ditto), before he can be considered a great player. Dunphy used the example of Kaka being brilliant in the previous European campaign, with goals in big games etc. It seems to have escaped his notice that that is exactly what Ronaldo did this season. They also sought to distinguish the CL Final by saying it is only one game. How it can be considered fair that every time he plays well, it is "only one game", and when he plays badly "it shows exactly why he isn't a great player" etc.

While I may not be his biggest fan, only the most blinkered of people could say he hasn't been brilliant these last couple of years. It seems his personality precedes him, he polarises opinion more than almost any player I can think of. Whatever his off-field issues, he has been wonderful to watch, of that there can be no doubt.

I usually like the RTE analysis, but this all felt a little like a witc hunt, and along with their analysis of the CL final(Terry was called "one of the great professionals of our time", after missing his peno. Ronaldo was called a bottler for doing the same. Strange that they find someone of such questionable character, as Terry undoubtedly has, more palatable than Ronaldo. You could almost that they had a grudge against him or something.:rolleyes:


I've gotten so pissed off at their "anti-Ronaldo" stance that I don't watch their analysis (except the odd time for a laugh) anymore. They spend half the build-up bitching about Ronnie, saying the same thing every time. Dunphy is a bellend, but quality entertainment on his night.

Other than their hatred for Ronaldo, I'd watch them over Sky. They're far more entertaining than the boring sh1t on Sky. I just wish they'd cut the Ronaldo obsession. They're making tits out of themselves (moreso than usual)
 
I know his agents brother

Know what suad number he is getting but have been sworn to secrecy

PM me if you want to know what number he is getting
 
Their bitterness and hatred towards Ronaldo is truly astonishing, I wonder if Ronnie has fecked their wives or something...
 
By Patrick Barclay
08/06/2008


Cristiano Ronaldo of Manchester United and Portugal went into last night's European Championship match against Turkey in Geneva with his career at a crossroads. But United, too, have an important choice of direction to make over the next few weeks. Do they cash in on a player who, it now seems, genuinely wants to leave for Real Madrid? Or back up the oft-repeated claim that they are the biggest single sporting institution in the world?

For United, too, this is a moment which will direct their path. Do they cash in on a player who, it seems, genuinely hankers to join Real Madrid? Or back the oft-repeated claim that they are the biggest club in the world? As far as their venerable Scottish manager is concerned, the decision is already taken. Sir Alex Ferguson has no wish to run a feeder club for the Spanish giants he admired as a teenage spectator at the European Cup final of 1960 in Glasgow, where the Real of Alfredo di Stefano and Ferenc Puskas beat Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3.

United's manager, entering the final three years of what would be a neat quarter-century at United, is determined to keep Ronaldo and recently, basking in his second Champions League triumph, buttressed a declaration of confidence with an assurance that the American family who own United, the Glazers, would let the two-time Footballer Of The Year "sit in the stand" rather than allow him to move. If that was intended to frighten Real off, the opposite has happened.

With Ronaldo's utterances ambivalent, the Spanish champions have made their interest public and the talk of industrial action has become two-way. The suggestion is that reluctance by the player to prepare for next season, whether Ferguson and the Glazers are of a mind to field him or not, might force a deal before the transfer window closes at the end of August.

Many United supporters, their patience stretched, have called for Ronaldo to be wished good riddance: no player is greater than the club. The rest of us, meanwhile, sigh and wonder how the atmosphere of celebration that surrounded the Portuguese dazzler's climax to the season - his 42nd goal helped United to beat Chelsea in Moscow - could so swiftly turn sour.

In England, anyway. At first here, the most influential Portuguese was Deco, closely followed by young Jose Moutinho, but suddenly Ronaldo contrived a thrilling slalom. Although his shot went wide, we remembered what the fuss was about and soon, chopping a free-kick in from the left, he had a goal denied by the flailing fingertips of Valkan Demirel, which diverted the ball against the far post. From then the high tempo fed Ronaldo's appetite and he drew another save before Pepe's demonstration of how defenders can hurt their counterparts set Portugal up.

By now Ronaldo had switched from right to left and, when Luiz Felipe Scolari needed him at centre-forward, he relished that duty too - and was only too happy to grab the captain's armband from Nuno Gomes. Yet the Portugal manager's dream is an Old Trafford nightmare. How typical of football: no sooner do United present us with a player who can be measured against George Best than he starts behaving like an ingrate of breathtaking proportion. A year after signing a contract, Ronaldo is swayed by Real's reported proposal to double his £6 million a year. Fairness demands we acknowledge the allure of Madrid (or Barcelona) to an Iberian. But the view that Ronaldo owes United a couple more years in return for the environment in which he has blossomed is persuasive.

It should equally be accepted that football provides a rickety moral framework for any 23-year-old. When Arsenal can pluck a teenage Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona, we are lucky anyone has the decency to run an academy. Look at the debts of the Glazers, whose anxiety not to be belittled by Real may owe as much to the question of United's market value than any other. And then there are the agents with their disruptive practices. To give Ronaldo's his due, Jorge Mendes is regarded by Ferguson as appreciative of United. Wise, too, to the hazards of the media circus surrounding Real players; United's headquarters, their manager proudly tells us, is nicknamed "Colditz".

The irony is that Ronaldo might have joined Real rather than United in 2003 but for Ferguson's ready response to a request by his Portuguese friend Carlos Queiroz, who had asked on Sporting Lisbon's behalf if United could play a friendly there. Queiroz had left the United staff to become manager of Real and Ronaldo was top of his shopping list - until the Lisbon friendly, in which Ronaldo's display made Ferguson lash out £12 million. Now Queiroz is back at Old Trafford as Ferguson's assistant and Real are ready to pay £60 million.

United are playing it cool. Their chief executive, David Gill, pooh-poohs the notion of fresh pay talks with Ronaldo. Ferguson, who might be less obdurate on that front, declines to interrupt a holiday in France. And the Glazers, whom Ferguson lauds, face the ultimate test: a tug-of-war with Real over a true match-winner.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/08/sfnron108.xml
 
John Carlin in Madrid
June 8, 2008


Prising Cristiano Ronaldo away from Manchester United will be less of a challenge than was the case the last time Real Madrid went to war for a prince of Portuguese football.

Luis Figo’s defection from Bar-celona in 2000 for a then world record fee of £38m was Real’s first transfer coup of the century, causing incredulity and pain at the Nou Camp in equal measure, and their most audacious by far. They did not do too badly over the next three years either, adding Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo (the Brazilian) and David Beckham to their superstar collection.

Does that mean Cristiano Ronaldo is destined to be Real’s next big-name scalp? Probably, though not necessarily. Real do not always get their man. Not any more, not since the departure 2½ years ago of their formidably ambitious president Florentino Perez, the father of the gloriously failed galactico project. Ramon Calderon, his distinctly uncharismatic successor, tried hard last summer to prise Kaka from Milan but failed, settling instead for Arjen Robben, who could not command a place in the Chelsea starting XI, as his big new-season signing.

They spent £70m in 2007 on new players, none of them remotely household names. It worked, in a distinctly unglamor-ous sort of way, in that a workmanlike team won the Spanish championship for the second year running, but they were easily beaten in the Champions League by Roma (who were even more easily beaten by Man-chester United) and, save for a couple of mightily celebrated victories against a deadbeat Barce-lona, the team failed to stir the blood of the Bernabeu fans. As for the Chinese, Thais, Japanese and Singaporeans, they were mad about Real when Beckham, Zidane and company were there, but have no interest whatsoever in Gago, Pepe and Higuain.

Hence, suddenly, the desperation to sign Cristiano Ronaldo, whatever he may cost. The brains behind the push to sign the Portuguese prodigy, the man who understands best of all that a club with Real’s reputation does not live by bread alone, is not Calderon, or even the club coach, Bernd Schuster. It is Jose Angel Sanchez, Real’s chief executive, originally brought to the club by Perez eight years ago as marketing director. Of all the people on the Perez team, it was Sanchez who got the message most clearly when his enigmatic boss, a business genius in his own right, would say, “the most expensive players are the cheapest”. Perez realised that the impact on the global Real Madrid brand of acquiring players who were famous beyond football itself was enormous and, cleverly administered (which was where Sanchez came in), would translate into big money. The return on the Beckham investment is still being felt now, because of the long-term deals signed during his time at the club.

What Sanchez sees, and the reason he has encouraged Calderon to spend whatever it takes to get Ronaldo, is that if Real do not give themselves a boost of galactico adrenalin, not only are they going to lose their status as the world’s richest club, but a serious risk exists of a big gap beginning to open up between them and the top British clubs, in terms of money in the bank and quality on the field.

The manner in which the Ronaldo soap opera is unfolding bears the unmistakable stamp of Perez, meaning in this case the carrier of the Perez flame, Sanchez. The script was first written for Figo, then repeated with Zidane, Ronaldo and Beckham.

You begin by approaching the player secretly, planting seeds in his mind, tempting him (and his agent) with the offer of huge money and the fabled white Real shirt. You then deploy the friendly Spanish sports press, whose reports are picked up within seconds elsewhere in Europe and the world, to generate some momentum, to get the player’s family and friends talking, to elicit quotes in support of the move from your own coach and potential future teammates, to make the whole prospect more substantial and real and enticing in the player’s mind.

If you get lucky, the target club, the one from which you are trying to filch the player, will show signs of panic, and start issuing angry threats. The good thing about that is that the player you seek may start waning in his loyalty, in so far as it may go, and cooling in his affection for the club to which he belongs.

Real have got lucky this time, prompting increasingly intemperate outbursts from Sir Alex Ferguson, who first accused Real of behaving unethically (to which a number of Spanish commentators have responded by recalling the way he set about snatching Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich last year) and then made what must surely be the mistake of threatening the player himself. It is hard not to imagine the cool, calculating, collected Sanchez rubbing his hands in glee when Ferguson said that he would have Ronaldo watching football from the stands all year rather than let him go to the Iberian enemy.

The objective of the exercise, now as with Real’s previous big-name signings, is to reach that checkmate point where the player unequivocally wants to move, and says as much. At which point all talk of condemning the player to Siberia, of owning him and not playing him, becomes so much guileless bluster. All the more so if the money on the table is vast, as in the case of Ronaldo (£80m is the figure mentioned in Spain).

News reports yesterday that Ronaldo would not welcome a visit from Ferguson to the Portugal national team camp sounded as if they might not be too far off the mark, which is not to say the transfer is a done deal. These summer soap operas have a habit of going on and on, and holding surprises in their tails. But as of now, the balance has swung Real’s way. Barely a month ago signing Ronaldo from United seemed like mission impossible. Today it is United who have all the work to do.

John Carlin is the author of White Angels: Beckham, Real Madrid and the New Football

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4087648.ece
 
Yeah, but he could kill it with saying "im not leaving", saying he's staying and then being reported to say he's leaving really gets as ambiguous as Espada's sexuality.

Er, I think he's a bit busy at the moment...
 
Saw the reports yesterday but didn't think they'd been acted on so quickly. Sounds sweet to me. Hope its done officially before mehro's funeral.
 
:lol:

If he does go, I don't think Mr. BahamaRed will make it through the depression. If for nothing else Ronnie, at least stay for the sake BR's health and well being ;)
 
I'll put this in here then.


By ROB BEASLEY and DAVID HARRISON

SIR ALEX FERGUSON fears he has lost the battle to keep Cristiano Ronaldo after a sensational SNUB by the Portuguese star.

Ronaldo has REFUSED to take a single phone call from the Manchester United boss since announcing he wants to quit Old Trafford for Real Madrid.

Sources close to Fergie believe the relationship between him and the United winger has disintegrated and could lead to Ronaldo’s inevitable departure.

Ronaldo runs rings round Fergie: Click here for full story

Fergie is desperate to speak to him in a bid to convince him to stay in England. But the longer Ronaldo blanks his boss, the less chance Ferguson has of changing his mind.

A source close to the United manager said: “Alex has been on the phone almost non-stop from France where he’s on holiday because he HAS to speak to Ronaldo.

“But he can’t get him to the phone. He’s left message after message but Ronaldo point- blank refuses to speak to him.

Soaring
“There is a complete breakdown in the relationship now. Fergie is angry that his calls are not getting through and Ronaldo is furious that the Glazers said he could rot in the stands if he decides to go to Madrid.

“The club will do everything in their power to keep Ronaldo but it seems like Fergie is facing a losing battle at the moment.”

United were willing to make Ronaldo the highest-paid player in the world thanks to a sponsorship deal with Nike which would have sent the 23-year-old’s wages soaring past the £200,000-a-week mark.

And, until Thursday night, Ferguson was confident he could sweet talk Ronaldo into staying at Old Trafford.

But since joining up with Portugal’s Euro 2008 squad, the winger’s stance has hardened. His agent, Jorge Mendes, is also reported to be blanking furious United chief executive David Gill.

Fergie would happily give his 42-goal star an improved contract but Gill and the Glazers are more wary.

The fear within Old Trafford is that United are fighting a battle they cannot win.

http://blogs.notw.co.uk/sport/2008/0...o-its-all.html
 
I'll put this in here then.
Totally made up story. Fergie's in France with his head in the sand. I have a gut feeling that things are swinging our way.

The Ronometer for today says.....

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Totally made up story. Fergie's in France with his head in the sand. I have a gut feeling that things are swinging our way.

The Ronometer for today says.....

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Seems about right as things stand [perhaps a few mm to the right lol], though i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Sir Alex had picked up his mobile whilst on his hols and dropped Ronnie a line.

For the NOTW to know what they are claiming in that piece, they'd need to have extrmely good contacts inside the Portugal camp. Or bribed an employee at Vodafone or whoever, or somone at GCHQ is a Real Madrid fan. ;)

If Nani knows what is good for him, he'll be informing on Ronaldo for Fergie, alogn with reminding our wayward Portuguese friend of where his loyalty should lie.
 
If Nani knows what is good for him, he'll be informing on Ronaldo for Fergie, alogn with reminding our wayward Portuguese friend of where his loyalty should lie.
I think the Nani and Anderson factor is important for Ronnie to stay. And with the Brazilian kids and CQ he's got to have a strong support from his peers to stay.
 
I think the Nani and Anderson factor is important for Ronnie to stay. And with the Brazilian kids and CQ he's got to have a strong support from his peers to stay.

For all the similariies of culture and such that he may find in Madrid, he has a fine support structure here at OT, and mentors in Sir Alex and Carlos who showed him no little faitha nd patience over the years. He'd be leaving it all behind to be one more isolated figure in a hostile Spanish sea.

And as you say, he could provide a Cantona-esque influence to our developing players.
 
Was actually hoping Portugal got beat today so we can get this over with sooner raher than later. They looked pretty good though and Ronnie had a good game although I was mumbling things at him every time he got the ball. Didn't look too affected by all the noise in the market.
 
Great read on the saga from times online

might be posted before

Real Madrid plot Ronaldo escape
Real Madrid have outfoxed Sir Alex Ferguson, who will now struggle to keep his star player

John Carlin in Madrid
Prising Cristiano Ronaldo away from Manchester United will be less of a challenge than was the case the last time Real Madrid went to war for a prince of Portuguese football.

Luis Figo’s defection from Barcelona in 2000 for a then world record fee of £38m was Real’s first transfer coup of the century, causing incredulity and pain at the Nou Camp in equal measure, and their most audacious by far. They did not do too badly over the next three years either, adding Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo (the Brazilian) and David Beckham to their superstar collection.

Does that mean Cristiano Ronaldo is destined to be Real’s next big-name scalp? Probably, though not necessarily. Real do not always get their man. Not any more, not since the departure 2½ years ago of their formidably ambitious president Florentino Perez, the father of the gloriously failed galactico project. Ramon Calderon, his distinctly uncharismatic successor, tried hard last summer to prise Kaka from Milan but failed, settling instead for Arjen Robben, who could not command a place in the Chelsea starting XI, as his big new-season signing.

They spent £70m in 2007 on new players, none of them remotely household names. It worked, in a distinctly unglamor-ous sort of way, in that a workmanlike team won the Spanish championship for the second year running, but they were easily beaten in the Champions League by Roma (who were even more easily beaten by Man-chester United) and, save for a couple of mightily celebrated victories against a deadbeat Barce-lona, the team failed to stir the blood of the Bernabeu fans. As for the Chinese, Thais, Japanese and Singaporeans, they were mad about Real when Beckham, Zidane and company were there, but have no interest whatsoever in Gago, Pepe and Higuain.

Hence, suddenly, the desperation to sign Cristiano Ronaldo, whatever he may cost. The brains behind the push to sign the Portuguese prodigy, the man who understands best of all that a club with Real’s reputation does not live by bread alone, is not Calderon, or even the club coach, Bernd Schuster. It is Jose Angel Sanchez, Real’s chief executive, originally brought to the club by Perez eight years ago as marketing director. Of all the people on the Perez team, it was Sanchez who got the message most clearly when his enigmatic boss, a business genius in his own right, would say, “the most expensive players are the cheapest”. Perez realised that the impact on the global Real Madrid brand of acquiring players who were famous beyond football itself was enormous and, cleverly administered (which was where Sanchez came in), would translate into big money. The return on the Beckham investment is still being felt now, because of the long-term deals signed during his time at the club.

What Sanchez sees, and the reason he has encouraged Calderon to spend whatever it takes to get Ronaldo, is that if Real do not give themselves a boost of galactico adrenalin, not only are they going to lose their status as the world’s richest club, but a serious risk exists of a big gap beginning to open up between them and the top British clubs, in terms of money in the bank and quality on the field.

The manner in which the Ronaldo soap opera is unfolding bears the unmistakable stamp of Perez, meaning in this case the carrier of the Perez flame, Sanchez. The script was first written for Figo, then repeated with Zidane, Ronaldo and Beckham.

You begin by approaching the player secretly, planting seeds in his mind, tempting him (and his agent) with the offer of huge money and the fabled white Real shirt. You then deploy the friendly Spanish sports press, whose reports are picked up within seconds elsewhere in Europe and the world, to generate some momentum, to get the player’s family and friends talking, to elicit quotes in support of the move from your own coach and potential future teammates, to make the whole prospect more substantial and real and enticing in the player’s mind.

If you get lucky, the target club, the one from which you are trying to filch the player, will show signs of panic, and start issuing angry threats. The good thing about that is that the player you seek may start waning in his loyalty, in so far as it may go, and cooling in his affection for the club to which he belongs.

Real have got lucky this time, prompting increasingly intemperate outbursts from Sir Alex Ferguson, who first accused Real of behaving unethically (to which a number of Spanish commentators have responded by recalling the way he set about snatching Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich last year) and then made what must surely be the mistake of threatening the player himself. It is hard not to imagine the cool, calculating, collected Sanchez rubbing his hands in glee when Ferguson said that he would have Ronaldo watching football from the stands all year rather than let him go to the Iberian enemy.

The objective of the exercise, now as with Real’s previous big-name signings, is to reach that checkmate point where the player unequivocally wants to move, and says as much. At which point all talk of condemning the player to Siberia, of owning him and not playing him, becomes so much guileless bluster. All the more so if the money on the table is vast, as in the case of Ronaldo (£80m is the figure mentioned in Spain).

News reports yesterday that Ronaldo would not welcome a visit from Ferguson to the Portugal national team camp sounded as if they might not be too far off the mark, which is not to say the transfer is a done deal. These summer soap operas have a habit of going on and on, and holding surprises in their tails. But as of now, the balance has swung Real’s way. Barely a month ago signing Ronaldo from United seemed like mission impossible. Today it is United who have all the work to do.

John Carlin is the author of White Angels: Beckham, Real Madrid and the New Football

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4087648.ece

feck him...if it aint this season it will be next season, I hope we sell now while he is worth a shitload and buy a new #7
 
Ronaldo says he as had contact with United.Contract talks underway then.
 
I thought Fergie quoted the Glaziers regarding him rotting in the reserves, yet more sloppy journalism. Oh well only another 2 and a half months and then we can forget about this nonsense.
Can someone set the alarm clock for August the 31st I'm going to hibernate:boring:
 
Thinking about this, we MUST keep Ronaldo.

We must keep him for two more seasons whatever he feels about it. If we don't we might as well pack up as we would only become a feeder club for Real Madrid.

It's beginning to feel like that anyway as they unsettled Beckham then took him, they also took van Nistelrooy and Heinze. I think that every time we make a player into a world star, as we did with Cristiano, then Real Madbastards will try the same trick and we'll go all through this shite again. This is the time we say NO! to their dirty tactics, or else they will continue to do it knowing we will eventually give in.
 
We must keep him for two more seasons whatever he feels about it. If we don't we might as well pack up as we would only become a feeder club for Real Madrid.

It's beginning to feel like that anyway as they unsettled Beckham then took him, they also took van Nistelrooy and Heinze. I think that every time we make a player into a world star, as we did with Cristiano, then Real Madbastards will try the same trick and we'll go all through this shite again. This is the time we say NO! to their dirty tactics, or else they will continue to do it knowing we will eventually give in.

feck that. We have to sell him to Barcelona. That'll teach them how to conduct their business in an appropriate manner.
 
That's good to hear

Actually, I have to admit, watching the match just makes me realise how much I want him to stay. He's amazing. I love him (as a footballer), I just wish I could have the same 'love' for him as a person, like I do with the likes of Giggs, Rooney, Tevez etc

Love as a person? I assume that you've actually met them right? I can't believe that you might love Rooney as a person from what we know about him. You just like them a bit more for their commitment to the club.
 
Has anybody even seen a transcript of the interview where he says he wants to go to Madrid if United accept their offer?
 
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