From Wiki: He is generally used on the right wing but is also deployed as a forward, left winger or central attacking midfielder.
EDIT: From Twitter: Alexis Sanchez played 27 games last season. 25 of them were as an CAM or up front.
Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet
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From Wiki: He is generally used on the right wing but is also deployed as a forward, left winger or central attacking midfielder.
EDIT: From Twitter: Alexis Sanchez played 27 games last season. 25 of them were as an CAM or up front.
He's a bit of a winger and a bit of a striker. A 'winker' if you wish.
a WINKER!!!! Oh my god, it's a sign. It's the second coming!!!!!!Why is that?
Young is LM which we need, while Sanchez is RM which we don't need unless Nani is on his way out, or SAF are planning to use Sanchez elsewhere (AM?)
Muppet says yes
well proved.. An unfit, form lacking nani Vs hot and running Valencia ,good comparison to form a conclusion really.
So you're suggesting
-------Carrick/Jones?------
-Valencia--Sanchez---Nani
---Hernandez--Rooney---
-------Carrick/Jones?------
-Valencia--Sanchez---Nani
---Hernandez--Rooney---
well proved.. An unfit, form lacking nani Vs hot and running Valencia ,good comparison to form a conclusion really.
Weird that you are describing Nani as if he was coming off a long injury and Valencia as if he was coming off first 6 months off a season where the fans cried when he wasn't nominated for POTY.....
OH WAIT.
I might have missed out a few players below. I tend to think of the Sanchez deal or any deal which may happen as pure replacements for what we have or had.
Van der Sar Retired De Gae to replace?
Rio Stays
Vidic Stays
Smallings Stays
Brown Sold Jones
O’Shea Sold?
Evans Stays
Rafael Stays
Fabio Stays
Evra Stays
Neville Retired Replacement? or the twins
Anderson Stays
Scholes Retired possible replacement?
Giggs Stays Young to replace?
Hargreaves gone possible replacement
Park Stays
Valencia Stays
Nani Stays
Obertan Sold?
Carrick Stays
Gibson Sold? Possible replacement
Rooney Stays
Hernandez Stays
Berbatov Sold? Sanchez to replace?
If Sanchez is bought to play on the wing, he could be the replacement for giggs(when he retires). I think he will play in CAM, so he could be the replacement for Scholes. Either way, i don't see a problem in trying to accommodate him within the squad.
Van der Sar Retired De Gae to replace?
Rio Stays
Vidic Stays
Smallings Stays
Brown Sold Jones
O’Shea Sold?
Evans Stays
Rafael Stays
Fabio Stays
Evra Stays
Neville Retired Replacement? or the twins
Anderson Stays
Scholes Retired possible replacement?
Giggs Stays Young to replace?
Hargreaves gone possible replacement
Park Stays
Valencia Stays
Nani Stays
Obertan Sold?
Carrick Stays
Gibson Sold? Possible replacement
Rooney Stays
Hernandez Stays
Berbatov Sold? Sanchez to replace?
If Sanchez is bought to play on the wing, he could be the replacement for giggs(when he retires). I think he will play in CAM, so he could be the replacement for Scholes. Either way, i don't see a problem in trying to accommodate him within the squad.
The muppet in me says: Welcome Young, Defour, De Gea and Sanchez as AM (and RM when needed)
Well, Valencia plays on the right and I wouldn't want him to be benched to make room for another player. Sanchez playing AM doesn't seem such a bad idea but I don't think it's his preferred position.
He's not better than Rooney at the attacking mid/number 10/second striker/trequartista/whatever we're calling the person between the midfield and Hernandez role is so I can't see him getting much game time there unless we're planning on pushing Rooney up top again, but that would mean dropping Hernandez so doesn't really make sense.
Well, the more I think of it, the more the above makes sense. I still don't think Sanchez will sign for us though.
Yoy may be right, and if you do:
a) We won't sign him unless Nani leaves
b) We are not interested in him at all, unless we intend to make him play AM no matter what he preferes
He'll play where Fergie tells him to play, if we sign him.
Till march 19th Nani was one of our best players, if not the best for the season. He got injured shortly thereafter and is more of a confidence player than Valencia. Full credit to the tough guy from Ecuador from coming back from injury full tilt, but the funny thing with football, you actually tend to lose your form if you're out injured, even if that injury has a rehabilitation period of 2-3 weeks. If you could jog your memory, you'd be able to remember that Nani was selected in the season before last for important fixtures when both were in form and in direct competition for one spot in the right hand side of midfield. Arsenal for example the season before last.
I'm not in any way or form under appreciating the value or the effectiveness of Valencia, but without doubt Nani is our best winger as of this point in time. The very fact that its up for debate quite clearly shows that football supporters have a very very short memory.
You could see Fergie going back to a 4231, with Hernandez up top with Rooney plus two from Nani, Young, Valencia and Sanchez playing in behind.
That's assuming we don't use berbatov. Or Park. Or Giggs. Or Cleverley. Or Welbeck.
So basically it makes no sense at all. As Number7 said, the regulars of this forum have a habit of immediately dismiss negative tabloid headlines linking our players with moves or our targets with other clubs ("Jones Deal in Tatters") but get all giddy when it's a potential signing. In reality, absolutely everything those rags publish needs to be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
He's a bit of a winger and a bit of a striker. A 'winker' if you wish.
I mentioned it before, we maybe have Young set up as a back up for Sanchez. If we wanted Young, he would be on board already, but we hold out and wait for whatever reason
I think the signing does make sense in that he has that ability to play across the front three very effectively and is a supremely good player on the break.
He is about the only world class player available this summer who could probably make an immediate impact and not cost upwards of 40m.
That said, I still think he'll end up at City.
He is about the only world class player available this summer who could probably make an immediate impact and not cost upwards of 40m.
That said, I still think he'll end up at City.
Giggs should start to be used as little as possible. He's at best got two years left and we need to start moving on and blooding in players that will progress rather then drop off. Exactly what VDS was talking about.
I'm not debating it. It's not something I particularly care about. I rate both highly, but neither at a world class level. Just feel, and so do many others that it's clear Fergie would pick Valencia over Nani if it came to that. And buying two wingers for quite a big amount of money would hurt Nani more than Valencia due to Nani having more value right now.
Dea Gea
Ferdinand - Vidic
Sneijder
Valencia - Nani - Park ------------------------------- Giggs - Sanchez - Young
Rooney
Ferdinand - Vidic
Sneijder
Valencia - Nani - Park ------------------------------- Giggs - Sanchez - Young
Rooney
Lets agree to disagree on that matter then.
But on the same matter, lets say we get sanchez and we don't have to sell any of our wingers which 3 of the 4 would you choose. Park being the 4th winger since he's tactically still the best option to choose when we want to defend and counter
Young, Nani, Sanchez and Valencia
I for one would pick the last three and park for rotation in the team.
Wow, seems I went to bed a bit early last night, this thread's grown about 4 pages!
So, do we really think this is on?
So, do we really think this is on?
In a word.No
Not sure what he means by that?
Pretty definitive.
The Mirror think a lot of things.
Oh well that brief stint of excitement was fun while it lasted.
Sanchez choosing us over them is a big 'feck you and your money' to Shitty.
This signing won't really make sense if we are still interested in Young. It will only make sense for us to sign both Young and Sanchez if we sold 1 of Park, Nani or Valencia(highly unlikely). I doubt we will play Sanchez as an attacking midfielder, if anything we should play Rooney there after his performances in a deeper role in the second part of the season.
When did Sir Alex decide that he prefers Valencia on the right? With fairly limited options, he didn't have much choice because Valencia is incapable of operating from the left, as far as anyone knows. I will admit that Nani's form at the end of the season also played a role, but circumstances and form are not the same thing as long term preference.
With better options -- such as Young on the left -- Sir Alex may decide that he prefers Nani on the right. An in-form Nani may also keep Young out of the team on the left. Two or three months at the end of one season tells us very little about a managers -- and this manager in particular -- long term thinking.
Is Ronaldo a winger?
The smart move is not to believe anything short of an actual "X player signs for United" article or release from manutd.com.
In the mean time a bit of spaculation on the merits of a potential new signing is harmless.
I actually do and I think we can thank Hernandez for it.
Ok, maybe that is a bit of an overstatement, obviously we knew about the marketing potential of owning a country's star before we signed Hernandez, Park being an obvious example but if you look at the mania Hernandez caused in Mexico and how many shirts Hernandez has sold (he was our top selling shit for 10-11) then you know that you will recoup a fair bit of whatever you outlay.
On top of the fact he is one of the worlds most promising players right now, it wouldn't surprise me if we were trying to build our name in South America. Everyone knows Madrid and Barcelona are the team that people grow up following if you are born in South America at the moment, owning two stars from two South American countries would do us no harm in breaking into that market. As someone said on here the other day, in Mexico people support 3 teams now, Their local club, Mexico NT and Manchester United.
Fast forward 10 or 15 years time and there could be a bunch of young players coming through that say "It has always been my dream to follow players like Anderson, Hernandez and Sanchez to Manchester". I think thats important for this club. I think it was a bit of an ego hit for us when Ronaldo brought to light the fact that for latin players the likes of Madrid and Barca are far more attractive to them.
Similar for our interest in Nasri though - if the Young deal is as done as claimed, then why show any interest in Sanchez or Nasri - unless Nani is going to be sold/swapped.... It's muppetry gone mad, but this whole Nani for Sneijder deal does make a little sense
SAF spoke to Sanchez on the phone the other day. That's a fact (isn't it?)
Gill flew to have a meeting with Sanchez' representatives the day after. (Also a fact isn't it?)
This is a done deal. Noone resists SAF's charm-Pure logic!
Gill flew to have a meeting with Sanchez' representatives the day after. (Also a fact isn't it?)
This is a done deal. Noone resists SAF's charm-Pure logic!
I expect some news and movement today but there is nothing from skysports as yet?
They ( Udinese) are meeting with Italian teams today. Juve and Inter. Juve have money to burn.
I expect some news and movement today but there is nothing from skysports as yet?
Why?
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