Not really, just out spending everyone. I'm not convinced that it will even improve the team, but will give them extra from the bench.
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Not really, just out spending everyone. I'm not convinced that it will even improve the team, but will give them extra from the bench.
I cant remember us ever signing players from the top tier. Its always been players from the likes of Villa and Spurs, who are ready to step up to the top table or a young, unknown gem from a foreign country that we mould into a star. Have we ever signed someone from Real, Barca, Inter or AC etc? I know we got Hargreaves from Bayern, but I cant recall any other transfer from that level of club or a player as widely hyped as Sanchez is.
I'd love if we did, dont get me wrong. Its really frustrating at times trying to suppress my inner muppet, especially when I see my friends getting excited about transfers of big name players (relative to their club size anyway) and we end up with a sensible, shrewd purchase that has no real wow factor. Come May its more often than not me who is happier than they are, but it'd be nice to have a transfer window where I could get really excited about a transfer.
If we dont make any significant changes, we're going to have to hope Chelsea beat Barca over 2 legs next season in the CL. In my opinion, they're the only team capable of winning against them this way.
Fabregas was theirs in the 1st place. I dont see how he can get a regular game but cracking addition to their squad
Good post. There are definitely queries over Guardiola's ability to get/develop the best out of his big-buys. And there being a lack of end-product (and thus the need for him to be developed and have his game grow) in Sanchez's game was the impression I got, but like I said I haven't seen him enough to be confident in formulating a proper opinion on him.
You never know, in two years time Sanchez could be on the market at a cut-price.
However I do disagree regarding Ronaldo - I don't think he needed the 2006 WC 'incidents' to provide the impetus for him to go on and become (to be) one of the games' all-time greats. To me he always came across as an extremely driven, determined and professional player. And whilst I believe Ferguson and United provided the perfect platform for him to become said player, I believe he would have eventually got there no matter which club he originally signed for. Though maybe a manager of Ferguson was able to keep him grounded, as no doubt a player like him, with his money, looks, fame and ability would have a LOT of potential pitfalls he could have stumbled into.
I remember some back when people on here were demanding he be sold, as he was simply a show-pony unable to put pressure on the board during games. I remember the continuous unfavourable comparisons to Rooney too, and was one of the (very) few who argued for Ronaldo. I thought he had it in him to develop into the worlds' best player - and unfortunately he proved me right, and then some.
They haven't signed him yet. Though I would have thought Iniesta would move up into a more advanced position to make way for Fabregas - but now with Sanchez signing that option looks extemely unlikely.
Mark my words when he does eventually sign for them he will become one of the games great midfielders, he'll piss all over everyone in Spain - the amount of time on the ball, and the sheer domination of possession Barcelona will have will enable him to pass the proverbial shite out of all comers.
I'm not denying that, my issue is how are those two going to take going from Bona fide players of World Class repute, to essentially being Squad players? Sanchez is giving up a guaranteed starting spot in almost every other team in the world to go to Barca. He is a fantastic dribbler, but its not like Pedro and Villa cant dribble either, and whats more they have much more to their bow than Sanchez. I really cant see him getting an extended run of games as Pedro, despite not being as eyecatching, performs a crucial role in that Barca side. Its his movement, along with Villa's, which opens up the space in the final third, and on top of that, when he gets a chance he invariably takes it. Sanchez simply doesnt.
Fabregas is a different case cos he's Barca through and through and probably knows that he will get Xavi's role when he ultimately reites. But the impact of reduced pitch time may be telling on him once he gets that chance.
He will sign for them very soon.
If we make the right additions I believe we'd be able to do it too. We've shown we can definitely match them on our day, unfortunately for everyone though is theirs is practically every day.
Third time lucky and all that too...
When Wenger decides to cash in, yes. 'Soon' is subjective though.
Fabregas may ask for a move behind closed doors, but he will never come out and publicly say he wants out - he seems to love the club and Wenger too much to do that. Say what you want about him but he's been a class act in that regard. He came out the other day and said it's up to Wenger.
The problem for Barcelona is they continue to do themselves no favours... Their frankly ridiculous and insulting valuations of Fabregas will never pique Wenger's interest. Wenger knows there will be blood if we sell our Captain and best player, who is contracted for many more years, for anything less than a king's ransom... A ransom in which Barcelona have been known to pay in the past for the players they want - see Ibrahimovic, Villa, Chygrynsky, Alves, Sanchez, etc, etc... All of which are inferior players to Fabregas.
What Barcelona are obviously waiting for is for Fabregas to force the issue publicly, which he won't do (I believe). I think Wenger owes it to him to allow him to move eventually - and I expect that will be in another season or two when Ramsey and Wilshere are able to fully take up his mantle.
I dunno, we'll have to agree to disagree on that score, mate. I wont deny he looked extremely promising, but that promise was at best looking like it was 3-4 seasons away from coming to fruition, and at worst, never looking likely of coming to the fore. For instance, he improved season on season in his first three, but the rate of improvement wasn't anything to be excited about. 6 goals in his first. 9 in his 2nd, and 12 in his 3rd. Assists-wise, I dont know the exact figures, but from memory I'm assuming he would have been around the 6-7 mark. Nothing marking him out as being legendary IMHO. Then immediately after the summer break he came back and got 23 goals and something like 21 assists. A ridiculous tally, especially when regard is had to his previous tallies.
In that season after the World Cup, he genuinely was on the same platform as Kaka and Ronaldinho. In his previous seasons, you wouldn't struggle to name 5 better, more complete players than him, who were playing in the Premier League at that time.
I genuinely think that hate campaign after the World Cup was the catalyst to his development and without it, I dont think we would have seen the same player. I really do think we'd have the ego of today's Ronaldo without the goals to back it up IMHO...
Well done on taking the soft option there Alexis.
Is he obliged to sign for the weaker side or something?
No but signing for the most complete side in Europe is a soft option.
i support united but if barca came in for me and i had genuine world class talent, even i would have to think twice not going with blaugrana.
Their pull is THAT strong. I don't begrudge any player for picking them when I as a united fan would think about going with them as well.
Their pull is THAT strong. I don't begrudge any player for picking them when I as a united fan would think about going with them as well.
what if regular football is not a certainty there. think that was mentioned as a question.
It will also break them unless they start selling players as well.
not all that arsed that barca is getting this lad. they were already streets better than us, the marginal increase to their team is minimal.
I'd be more worried if they actually got thiago silva.
As for us..never understood how sanchez fit in for us. I've only had my eyes on sneijder all of these years.
sneijder plus another midfielder would be ideal.
I'd be more worried if they actually got thiago silva.
As for us..never understood how sanchez fit in for us. I've only had my eyes on sneijder all of these years.
sneijder plus another midfielder would be ideal.
This just means Sanchez will be going on the cheap next summer when he's a subsitute for a season. 
Why wouldn't a player want to join the team that has the best chance of being successful both domestically and in Europe?
Well whatever. Let's go and get someone (or two?) solid for central mid, at least.
FWIW young fits united better on fifa 11 more than sanchez.
That's because we don't buy top tier players, we make them. We did try with Veron and look where that led.
On your final point - the club evaluate potential transfers at far greater depth than the youtube muppets in the transfer forum (well Bebe aside). We could've bought Karim Benzema rather than Javier Hernandez, which would have initially disappointed many in here, only to be wiping the egg off their faces later in the season. In the greater scheme of things, the transfer enthusiasts here and the ones who call them selves journalists know very litte about why we buy specific players and what Fergie has in mind when he gives the thumbs up to proceed - so - getting disappointed about the absence of big names is really worth it. I'm ecstatic about the likes of Smalling, Hernandez, Jones, and hope we add another quality player of their ilk (for me that would be Mario Goetze), rather than empty our coffers to buy a 30m quid player, which for us, historically, has been a risky proposition. It worked for Rio and Rooney, not so much for Veron and Berba.
Sanchez and Messi with Pedro or Villa up front, fecking hell.
I can understand Sanchez going to Barca instead of United.
But as a United fan you would go to Barca as well?
Its not like United are a second rate club and If you can improve United and help them to better than Barca why?
I can understand Sanchez going to Barca instead of United.
But as a United fan you would go to Barca as well?
Its not like United are a second rate club and If you can improve United and help them to better than Barca why?
We need a couple of world class midfielders to catch up with Barca, not a winger/second striker/whatever position Sanchez can play.
I don't see this as a huge loss. We've got two of the best wingers already and a couple of world class strikers.
I agree.
I was replying to his post that "even a United fan like us would choose Barca over United"
I think he wouldn't have become one of the best players in the league had he come here.
I don't think both Modric and Sneijder could close the gap between us and Barca.
We're all obssesed with Barca but its because we dont like being second best and we all wantt Fergie to get another CL before he retires.
I don't think both Modric and Sneijder could close the gap between us and Barca.
We're all obssesed with Barca but its because we dont like being second best and we all wantt Fergie to get another CL before he retires.
I dont get these hard feelings. Think as a neutral player: Barca right now is the obvious choice 99.9% of the footballers would make
It's not a soft option. He is signing for a club who play in a league that will probably suit his strengths and they play the best football. He has already said he wishes to play in Spain. He'll earn the same money he'd earn anywhere else bar City or Chelsea. He gets to play with the likes of Messi and Xavi every week. Signing for Barcelona isn't far off being a no brainer.
Signing for Barcelona was obviously the best option for him in his opinion. It does not make it a soft option.
I do agree with the guy a few pages back though. A south American will 90% choose Barca over us right now. It was always likely to be the case really.
I'm still holding on to the hope that the miners and chilean wine sponsor will put pressure on him to come to United.
I'm sure City would have beaten that but regardless, it's another reason for him to sign. It doesn't make it a soft option, it makes it the obvious option.
Yup, he'll fit in well...
And at the same time thousand of Spanish people gather in Madrid to protest high unemployment and job insecurity, whereas some people get paid millions just for running behind a ball . Footballers
(offtopic, but still)
If Sanchez lives up to the "hype" of being up there with Messi/Ronaldo in a couple of seasons, this Barca team is going to dominate for some time yet.
I can't see it though. I don't think he will get enough playing time next season to start with, especially at this stage of his career when he needs it.
I can't see it though. I don't think he will get enough playing time next season to start with, especially at this stage of his career when he needs it.
The Chile manager has already commented that the national team will be accountable for 45 Mill or something if they dont let him travel to seal the deal. I guess thats Game over.
Or maybe your your pull towards United is not that strong?
What would actually make you want to go to Barca instead of United?
I'm genuinely baffled.
Huzzah!!!! The thread lives on!
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