But it's the 10% that's often the difference between winning and losing. Mata the same, frustrating to watch at times but it's that quality of the pass that does come off is the difference. Rom scores from Sanchez pass, 2-0. Irrespective of his game, the key moments last season and last night generally he's involved in.
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But it's the 10% that's often the difference between winning and losing. Mata the same, frustrating to watch at times but it's that quality of the pass that does come off is the difference. Rom scores from Sanchez pass, 2-0. Irrespective of his game, the key moments last season and last night generally he's involved in.
He worked his arse off and had a massive defensive contribution and was involved in pretty much every attacking move we had. His final pass was beyond terrible though.
Really disappointed that after such a superb pre-season he reverted to basically what he gave us last season - loads of hard work, obvious talent, decent dribbling but a total inability to pull off simple passes. Admittedly Leicester targeted him more than anyone else in our side, working hard to pin him to the sideline and keep two men tight to him at all times, but he was still doing the hard stuff ok - raking passes, turning on a sixpence etc. It was the simple ten yard passes that kept ending up at a defender's feet and killing our attacks. He seemed equally frustrated by it.
EDIT: This sounds harsher than I meant it to. He's obviously not become a worse player all of a sudden. If you watch these misplaced passes back, they almost all seem to stem from him expecting players to run onto passes. It seems to come from the difference between a Wenger team, where everyone constantly makes little second- and third-man runs in anticipation of little passes and lay-offs, and Mourinho's less dynamic, more direct approach. Sanchez just needs more time to click with the way the rest of the team move. Put Lingard on the pitch and I think he'll immediately look much better.
Meanwhile, he could've had two or three assists. Lukaku and Mata both really should have scored from his set-ups.
EDIT: This sounds harsher than I meant it to. He's obviously not become a worse player all of a sudden. If you watch these misplaced passes back, they almost all seem to stem from him expecting players to run onto passes. It seems to come from the difference between a Wenger team, where everyone constantly makes little second- and third-man runs in anticipation of little passes and lay-offs, and Mourinho's less dynamic, more direct approach. Sanchez just needs more time to click with the way the rest of the team move. Put Lingard on the pitch and I think he'll immediately look much better.
Meanwhile, he could've had two or three assists. Lukaku and Mata both really should have scored from his set-ups.
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.....and Statistically one of if not the the worst....Neymar, the most expensive player in world football.
I think we should give Sanchez until January to prove himself, and if he's still playing like this then we cut our losses on him and tout him out for the end of the season.
I can't help but feel like taking a punt on someone like Fekir would be a better option at that point, and a hell of a lot cheaper.
I can't help but feel like taking a punt on someone like Fekir would be a better option at that point, and a hell of a lot cheaper.
Surely can't stay in the team if he performs like that week in week out. Yes, I get he works his bollocks off for the team but the fact he loses so much possession and yet still feels it fit to point out every mistake his teammates make annoys me.
Obviously given his talent we've got to give him chance to shine but he's not keeping Marc Albrighton out of the team, Anthony Martial is on the bench. The lad has true world-class ability, surely he's got to be given a chance to shine.
Obviously given his talent we've got to give him chance to shine but he's not keeping Marc Albrighton out of the team, Anthony Martial is on the bench. The lad has true world-class ability, surely he's got to be given a chance to shine.
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......and without labouring the point Messi pretty much gives the ball away more than any other in Spain too.
He wasnt much better in the spring. So yes he can keep his place in the team despite diabolical performances like yesterday.
The issue isn't with him taking chances - It's the general sloppiness. A lot of that dispossession came with pretty basic passes rather than audacious attempts to create. He was terrible - Losing it at horrible times too at moments we're caught up the field. He was let down at times by service, especially by Rashford on the early break he created but he just looks so easily overwhelmed on the wing.
Unless there's a formation change then he'll need to improve or he'll be dropped. Mourinho did drop him last season and will do it again.
Unless there's a formation change then he'll need to improve or he'll be dropped. Mourinho did drop him last season and will do it again.
That's because they don't often show all the bad touches.
The 3 best players in world football last season, gave the ball away more than any other in their respective league. Shit happens when you are always playing off the front foot. Put Neymar, Messi or KDB in a Utd shirt, the discussion around possession would be exactly the same......but conversely, who creates the most chances would probably be the polar opposite. Causation for me....
Worst player on the pitch last night by a distance, I actually don't remember a performance that bad out of any United player, ever. Hope he is put on the right and finally allow Martial or Rashford (also terrible last night) to go for the left again.
This video shows every single touch. Even shows moments where the ball is near him and he never gets a touch on it.
It was a shocking performance. He's picked up where he left of last season. The guy spends all game messing up attacks. You'd think he was some academy youth product who isn't comfortable at this level of football.
But they offer far more goals, assists and/or ability to go past players.
One thing for certain he will get us goals and assists as he's always in the correct positions and looking to do the right thing with the ball. It's just that he seems slow and out of tune with his teammates, the number of misplaced passes was pathetic for a man of his salary.
Except the others actually make a positive contribution. Sanchez for United simply doesn't. He just gives the ball away trying these supposedly difficult things whilst people pretend he makes up for by running a lot and making a difference (he doesnt).
I hope he improves because he seems to be guaranteed to start no matter how he plays.
I was shouting down some quiet pub in frustration with his performance. Hopefully he can turn a corner, but I'm not holding my breathe.
But that's another argument. The point people are saying is he gives the ball away a lot, my point is so does every world class attacking player. Not 100% sure but wasn't he our best player in most of the big games since he came last seasons. Proportionally must have had the most assists?
He gave away the ball ten-fold today. Far more than what should be accepted(especially when he didn't do enough with the ball for the majority of the game).
And no, he wasn't our best player in most of the big games last season. The only game I'd say he was our best in a big game was the FA Cup semi-final vs Tottenham. Everything else was a mixed bag.
He's being paid 350k a week. He NEEDS to perform better to justify his wages. Now if he can't play better(and it may be likely), we need to accept the mishap and cut our losses when we can.
If we had Hazard in his place(just hypothetically), I think we'd improve massively.
How can a suppose 'world-class' player be more sloppy than an amateur in the under-8 league? Even a non-league take better care of the ball. It's really hurting our counterattacks. I better hope he cut it out or else he'll be a worse no. 7 than Memphis Depay.
People can debate whether he's good enough, whether he's justified his salary, whether he's lost his pace or the ridiculous Rooney comparisons, that's opinions. The point I'm making is the players that give the ball away are often those that are trying to influence the game. The best attacking players give the ball away the most, and in my opinion he's still one of the best players in world football and that's why Pep wanted him. Do you think he didn't know how often Sanchez gave the ball away cause it isn't anything new...
Its definitely not something new, the difference is at United, he hasn't been effective in his output so far. Also because we rely quite heavily on the counter, its effecting us a lot more.
All of the players you mentioned are effective in their output. Sanchez hasn't been
I thought I heard the commentator say that Jose had a go at him. Good. He can't keep losing possession, making awful decisions, and blaming team mates.
For someone of his experience, he seriously lacks composure.
Albeit he played bad, he was way too isolated. Most of the time when he lost the ball or couldn't get a right pass, he was surrounded by 2-3 players with nobody of our team even close to help him. You can't expect him to be like Messi and dribble through 5 players alone.
Where have you been living in a monastery? There were worst performances than that in nearly every game we played in the latter past of the season. Many of which were from Sanchez, as well as Pogba. The overreactions on these boards are amazing.
This. If it gets that bad he ends up on the bench, he won'y like it and will push to move on somewhere else.
I watched the actual game, there certainly wasn’t. Not ‘much more’ at least.
I reckon he was one of our better attacking players yesterday. Which, to be fair, doesn't say all that much.
Him losing possession isn't that much of an issue, as others have pointed out it's just a natural part of being a creative attacking player. Often it's a very fine margin between creating a goalscoring chance and giving away the ball. Still a bit weird at times, quite a few times yesterday where he misplaces what should be very simple passes to make.
He needs players making runs to create space, not sure how suited he is to the football we're playing.
Don't see the point in worrying too much at this point anyway. First match of the season, don't have a full squad, players still returning to fitness etc. Need to let things settle down. If him and Shaw combine well together, we can have a lethal left side, well worth giving it a proper go instead of chopping between players to see which one has an instant impact.
Him losing possession isn't that much of an issue, as others have pointed out it's just a natural part of being a creative attacking player. Often it's a very fine margin between creating a goalscoring chance and giving away the ball. Still a bit weird at times, quite a few times yesterday where he misplaces what should be very simple passes to make.
He needs players making runs to create space, not sure how suited he is to the football we're playing.
Don't see the point in worrying too much at this point anyway. First match of the season, don't have a full squad, players still returning to fitness etc. Need to let things settle down. If him and Shaw combine well together, we can have a lethal left side, well worth giving it a proper go instead of chopping between players to see which one has an instant impact.
There was good reason for that. It was after Vardy scored, & we needed to keep possession & Sanchez lost it, & made Mourinho furious. Luckily, Leicester couldn't take advantage of the opportunity they made from this. Imagine the uproar if they had.
Yeah, I remember when Memphis did something similar, people wanted him set on fire.
What happened to Alexis at Arsenal scoring goals left and right !!he can't become this bad suddeny ...isn't it ? Even people put this down to wrong ta tactics /defensive football still he could score and setup few ?? Instead of losing ball most of the time ...
Other world class players might lose the ball often but they do score or setup often !!
We need a productive Alexis ....
ADM, Falcao, Alexis proves must be some kind of a curse on UTD forward players in last few years
I watched every United game last season bar a few. Sanchez was diabolical last season, and has continued that in this game. I thought with a rest and a good preseason he may improve, but he's actually played worse last night in my opinion.
I don't like him out left. His dribbling isn't great and Martial is much better suited to that position. I think he's so much better when operating more centrally, mind you. Get him closer to Lukaku and nearer the box and he'll score for us. But picking the ball up out wide on the half way line? Nah. He'll continue to struggle.
I wonder if he may work better as a second striker. But then we'd probably have sacrifice a midfielder or play Pogba out wide, which isn't ideal.
No shit. I’m assuming we both did. Otherwise what’s the point of this discussion? The video was supposed to help your memory if you’re convinced that all he did was work hard. Did you watch it?
For all the money we are paying him, he's absolute gash. No wonder Martial wants to leave. Sitting on the bench while he constantly gives the ball away must be demoralising. Sanchez has completely flopped so far and i hate watching him play to be honest. I'm sure he will come good but we need that to happen asap if we are to win anything this season. He talks about wanting us to sign world class players but if we do Alexis, you will probably be dropped. Oh the irony in what you're saying.
We’ve once again bought a player that’s given his best days to another club.
Mourinho made a mistake playing him LW and Rashford ST yesterday. They needed to switch position. I’m starting to think his days out wide are over. Zero pace and I haven’t seen him beat one defender since signing. I’d probably be more supportive of him if he wasn’t always moaning at his teammates after doing something wrong.
This is the risk of signing aging players for huge fee’s/huge wages. Not everyone is Giggs/Ronaldo in terms of longevity.
This is the risk of signing aging players for huge fee’s/huge wages. Not everyone is Giggs/Ronaldo in terms of longevity.
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