You do realise he's played there plenty in his career?
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Played there for Barcelona and Udinese, so he is plenty capable. Probably not his favoured position though, only reason I can see for not trying it.
Does anyone else feel like he's carrying way too much mass for his size? I personally think he needs to relax with the weight training and go lighter. IIRC Ronaldo also decided to lose some weight when he started showing sign slowing.
He only moved to the left at Arsenal. He always played on the right prior to that. It's a problem because with Mata on the right and our ragtag bunch of fullbacks we lack any sort of width and the last thing we need is Alexis cutting inside and narrowing things even further.
Nothing sensible? How about we have no one better to play there? That’s sensible enough. Never mind our only other capable wing options have mostly played on the left, and we were covered well last season.
And why is Martial a lost cause exactly? Jose talked of wanting to play him just last night.
Mata has played right wing for an extended period of time, would you say he was a right winger and are happy with his performances there? Pereira has played mostly as a wide man the past two years - his first two in senior football - do you think in the future anyone’s going to see the right wing as a potential position of his? Schweinsteiger came through the ranks as a right midfielder but once he established himself in his true position no one would have entertained the notion of playing him out wide. There are countless examples of players being played out of position at any stage of their careers.
Sanchez has excelled in left wing, no.10/ second striker and striker roles at Udinese and Arsenal, and has been a shell of that player when playing on the right for Udinese and Barcelona. He can only play there in the same sense that Martial/ Rashford/ Lukaku/ Mata/ Lingard/ Pereira can - you can play him in that role, but make no mistake he’s out of position.
I can only attribute his style not working due to the way you lot play. See how he does this season after a full pre-season. The thing with Arsenal was that when we attacked everyone and their mum went up which gave Sanchez a bit more time on the ball.
Most of this forum is deluded, mate. It's always the players, or a "curse", never the tumescent tactics and instructions.
He played almost exclusively on the right at Udinese and Barcelona i.e practically the first 10 years of his career. It's not like he was shoved there from time to time out of position. Out on the right was his position.
We have no-one better to play down the left either then do we? Martial or Rashford left and Sanchez right is not better than Sanchez left and Martial/ Rashford right. Whichever one plays on the right is going to be hamstrung, so we’re better off not making that our highest paid and supposed best attacker.
Martial came to pre-season last year with fire in his belly. The difference this year is stark. This is more likely to be a repeat of his second, and Jose’s first, season. I would love for him to do well, but I’m not holding my breath.
He isn't a left winger anymore. Should either be given a free role on the RW or play as a number 9 like at Arsenal. If he can't do that then he should be benched.
I’ve said this repeatedly. It was clear at the start of last season and why his form at Arsenal dropped off massively. Nothing to do with stropping at not getting a move, and is the reason why he won’t ever get back to his best, despite still being capable of moments of quality (see the ball to Mata yesterday).Do Man City still want him?
On a serious and rather worrying note, he seems very slow! Looks like he's lost that burst of acceleration he once had. Also, he's always moaning and yeh you could attribute that to him having high standards if only he wasn't so shit himself.
Incorrect. He earned his move to Barcelona after being moved to a no.10/ second striker position at Udinese and excelling there, performing to a much higher calibre than he had on the right. I wouldn’t say he failed at Barcelona, but he did struggle and was found wanting a bit at that level again playing from the right. At Arsenal he excelled from the left and up front.
I’m not arguing he has played extensively on the right in the earlier part of his career - he did play there, but he was out of position. We can now say that confidently, given the higher level of performance he has reached in his true positions over the years.
Sanchez needs to improve massively on last night. He was probably our worst performing player and there were a number of times where he could have done a fair bit better in the attacking third. You can't fault his work ethic and determination, he just seems to lack that end product 75% of the time. He was the lowest rating I submitted of our player ratings yesterday with a 4.
As a few posts above state, he does seem to have lost his instant burst of acceleration and incapable of actually getting past a full back.
As a few posts above state, he does seem to have lost his instant burst of acceleration and incapable of actually getting past a full back.
Jose usually gives someone 6-7 games to get it right. If he doesn't find his form by then, Martial will get his chance and he'll either move to the right to accommodate him or settle on the bench and wait his turn.
Problem aint the tactics. As shit as they indeed are. He can barely complete a pass. Barely kick a damn ball properly. That's worrying.
Up front or just off the striker, I would say. Centrally in some fashion.
Sanchez was brilliant on the right for Udinese. That's when everyone first started hyping him up. He was also very good on the right for Barcelona.
The idea that he can't play there nonsense. He's played there to a higher standard than anyone in our squad.
The idea that he can't play there nonsense. He's played there to a higher standard than anyone in our squad.
I agree he was wasteful last night, but he still was instrumental in all our biggest chances. It is way too early to judge him or other players after one game, especially after a WC summer.
Negativity for the sake of negativity is just stupid. And way too prominent here at the moment.
Negativity for the sake of negativity is just stupid. And way too prominent here at the moment.
He will come good with high tempo of ball circulation and some more training with Jose's direct counter attacking methods. At arsenal he was used as a box player in 343 under Wenger, he will take sometime to be more effective with mourinho's deep methods. Lack of pace and width on the right is also a reason opposition players always defend him without worrying about that side and hence he is having difficulties.
That’s a problem all our attacking players suffer from. Not enough other attackers distracting defenders with forward runs. Which is why our rare quality displays of attacking tend to always come when Lingard is on the pitch.
We have no one better for the LW? Questionable to say the least, but we have no one for the RW. Mata and Lingard don’t bring even close to what Martial and Rashford bring to our left. Sanchez has played on the RW through out his career, at a high level also, Martial and Rashford have some 20 games there combined.
Our supposed best attacker needs to play where our team needs him, until he shows anything worthy to the degree that we handicap our team of an entire wing so he plays in his preferred position.
Martial/Rashford on the left and Sanchez on the right would be much better than the other way around. Simply because Sanchez has showed he can be as good on the RW as on the LW, Martial and Rashford haven’t shown the same versatility.
From transfermarkt..
Alexis Sanchez on the right wing:
125 appearances, 47 goals and 39 assists.
Alexis Sanchez on the left wing:
125 appearances 48 goals and 29 assists
Wenger regarding Sanchez on the right:
Not sure what you're talking about, to be honest.
Stretford End got fed up with him after 60 minutes. Seemed like he gave the ball away every time he got it. Three times in a row second half he messed up really good situations.
It really felt like the extra gusto in the 'Tony Martial' chants were pointed at Jose and his overlooking of Sanchezs poor performances. They were on my part anyway.
He was dire. Truely awful. Shockingly poor.
It really felt like the extra gusto in the 'Tony Martial' chants were pointed at Jose and his overlooking of Sanchezs poor performances. They were on my part anyway.
He was dire. Truely awful. Shockingly poor.
He couldn't even trap a ball half of the time yesterday. That has little to do with tactics .
I think that's a bit harsh.
It was a strange performance in that his touch was generally excellent, he made some great runs and got into threatening areas showing great fitness right to the end.
However, the really important bit was dire.
the moment he tried to pass or shoot it just went to shit, his radar was miles off. I'm prepared to give him the first game of the season pass.
Mous comments re martial were interesting, I think sanchez would've been subbed for him if we didn't need subs elsewhere
It was a strange performance in that his touch was generally excellent, he made some great runs and got into threatening areas showing great fitness right to the end.
However, the really important bit was dire.
the moment he tried to pass or shoot it just went to shit, his radar was miles off. I'm prepared to give him the first game of the season pass.
Mous comments re martial were interesting, I think sanchez would've been subbed for him if we didn't need subs elsewhere
From what I remember from his Arsenal days, he was very fast. Seems to have slowed down a lot, can barely run past a player anymore.
Think we should put him upfront with Lukaku and try once.
He lost the ball an awful lot yesterday, but did create two chances (Lukaku sitter and Mata). Guy looks like he doesn't have confidence to me. It is crucial that he have a good season for us to have any hopes of winning something.
Think we should put him upfront with Lukaku and try once.
He lost the ball an awful lot yesterday, but did create two chances (Lukaku sitter and Mata). Guy looks like he doesn't have confidence to me. It is crucial that he have a good season for us to have any hopes of winning something.
Really, two numbers. Don’t you actually have an observed opinion? The game cannot be reduced to stats, and certainly not to anything as simple as that.
Wenger played Sanchez on the right about three times did he not?
His best season in his life came with Arsenal either cutting from the left or as a striker.
All these posts of, "He's lost pace, play him down the middle of the attack," just makes you think what a bad signing this is.
We bought him to replicate his Arsenal performances.
We bought him to replicate his Arsenal performances.
So? My point isn't that he's better on the right than the left, it's that there isn't a massive difference and he definitely isn't a 'shell' of his normal self when on the right.
Stats are all I need to disprove what you're saying. How can you compare playing Sanchez on the right to playing Martial or Rashford there after considering what he's been able to do from that side? The way you're talking, one would think he's been shite whenever he's played there. If that's the case, how has he managed similarly good stats on the right to the left?
Wenger played him there 25 times, apparently.
With his reduced speed and erratic passing, I highly doubt he'll be any good as right winger with his strong foot to the outside of the pitch. I can only see him becoming worse.
Most of his right winger playing was when he was younger. He hasn't been playing anything recently since Arsenal except on the left or as a striker.
That’s nonsense.
Could well be true. The question is whether Alexis fits in Mou's system or is he a square peg. Looks like it is the latter and then the question is why on Earth did we sign him then on megamoney.
I still think it's worth a shot. He's had some good moments from the right in the little time he's been here. The pass to Herrera in the build up to Pogba's first against City and the header against Spurs in the FA Cup are two that come to mind. His dribbling isn't what it used to be, so having him on the right where he can shoot towards the left of the goal without having to cut in could make things easier for him. It just means he'll be fairly narrow.
I think he's done,lads. we've bought a busted flush,he just seems lacking in everything except attitude/effort. Hope Im wrong but I think yhis now is standard.
He was poor yesterday
We know hes a top player. Hell get more chances under JM and if he doesnt perform he should be benched, simple as that. But ppl writing him off after a full single game... get a grip
We know hes a top player. Hell get more chances under JM and if he doesnt perform he should be benched, simple as that. But ppl writing him off after a full single game... get a grip
I'm concerned he's lost a yard of pace. Not sure why, I don't remember any serious injuries before he came to us.
He's Ryan Giggs Mk. 2. He'll infuriate you with the low percentage passes but will create a few excellent opportunities each match.
I think he needs to play as a striker when Lukaku isn't playing. He looked twice the player once Lukaku came on and he can hold up the ball far better than Rashford/Martial.
I think he needs to play as a striker when Lukaku isn't playing. He looked twice the player once Lukaku came on and he can hold up the ball far better than Rashford/Martial.
I didn't think he was poor. His timing of final ball was a but out of sync, but did work hard and got into good positions. I reckon he's better off with Lukaku than Rashford.
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