Alexandre Lacazette

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And now the mood seems to have changed, with Lyon reportedly telling him to "Sign a new deal or leave."

Should be interesting. I'd like to think there's a hope we could sign him, but I can just see him sporting an Arsenal shirt by the end of the month. He suits them perfectly, and is a countryman of Wenger to boot.
 
He'd be a quality signing for the premier league. Strong and fast, what else do you need?
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It blows my mind that there isn't more smoke around this guy after the season he had.
 
I'm guessing the reason for that is that is either he doesn't want to move yet or Lyon have told him to stay put.
 
We should be all over him. Throw some of the Di Maria money right at his face.
 
Things seem to have changed. If Arsenal were to come in with a decent offer, he'll be through the tunnel faster than an African migrant.

It's quite late already though, with the season starting soon, but I can certainly see Arsenal as a possible first choice which is why I don't want him to move.
 
He's not good enough for a Premier League top 4 club. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't watched him.
 
He's not good enough for a Premier League top 4 club.
As an out-and-out striker, is Rooney?

I don't think he is. The only reason he plays is because he does so much in other areas.

Don't get me wrong, Rooney is a tremendous player, but we could definitely use a more potent goal threat up front. We struggled for goals last season, and our attack is even weaker this season. I'm at the point where I'd have a budget solution like Charlie Austin (who managed 18 league goals for an utterly wank team, so he can't be all bad) just because we're so poor in that area. I just don't have faith in Rooney being a 20+ goals a season striker any more, despite all his qualities. Someone like Lacazette would give us a completely different type of threat up front to what we already have and he's young and on the verge of his major breakthrough in world football. It just makes all kinds of sense to me.

Are there any better options out there that are actually gettable? I'm having a hard time coming up with any names.
 
As an out-and-out striker, is Rooney?

I don't think he is. The only reason he plays is because he does so much in other areas.
Ridiculous comment. He's England no9 and captain of both Utd and England. Also going to be Englands all time top goal scorer. Your comment is insane. If he's played in CM then no he wont get the goals but up top of course he will as he's shown throughout his career.

Is he better than other world class strikers potentially not. But you saying is he good enough for top 4 is ridiculous. Any of the other top 4 would have him off us.
 
There might just be something in this with Van Gaal seemingly keen to off load Januzaj on loan and possibly Chicharito to West Ham
 
He is proven in a diamond formation, but as a lone striker with his size in the premier league i would have my doubts.

Exciting player nonetheless.
 
Liverpool fans/media outlets going crazy over this again.

Because, y'know, Liverpool really need another striker.

Why the hell would he ever go there when Arsenal (and especially United) are more in need of a striker and are higher status clubs?

I'm convinced the Metro are winding up the scousers on purpose. You know its BS when only the Metro and the Liverpool Echo are covering it.
 
Liverpool fans/media outlets going crazy over this again.

Because, y'know, Liverpool really need another striker.

Why the hell would he ever go there when Arsenal (and especially United) are more in need of a striker and are higher status clubs?

I'm convinced the Metro are winding up the scousers on purpose. You know its BS when only the Metro and the Liverpool Echo are covering it.

Didn't LeQuipe start it?
 
Liverpool fans/media outlets going crazy over this again.

Because, y'know, Liverpool really need another striker.

Why the hell would he ever go there when Arsenal (and especially United) are more in need of a striker and are higher status clubs?

I'm convinced the Metro are winding up the scousers on purpose. You know its BS when only the Metro and the Liverpool Echo are covering it.

Because Arsenal are in for Benzema and we most probably are not looking for a striker of his type.
 
Ridiculous comment. He's England no9 and captain of both Utd and England. Also going to be Englands all time top goal scorer. Your comment is insane. If he's played in CM then no he wont get the goals but up top of course he will as he's shown throughout his career.

Is he better than other world class strikers potentially not. But you saying is he good enough for top 4 is ridiculous. Any of the other top 4 would have him off us.
He has Sturridge in front of him for England, which means he doesn't get the whole burden of goalscoring on himself. He was also a much bigger goal threat a few years ago, which is why he's still even considered a striker. Now he's slower and less aggressive going forward.

Even though they're not top 4, take Liverpool as an example. They have a very good midfield with a decent mix of workhorses and creative players, but they struggled for goals last season in Sturridge's absence. Do you think they would rather have another worker like Rooney or a goalscorer like Sturridge as their lone striker, all other things equal? I'd wager Sturridge would be the better fit, given that he stays injury-free, even if he's only half the player Rooney is overall. It's like Spain in the Euros in 2012. Even though they won the tournament they were extremely underwhelming in the group stage when they were playing Fabregas up front. For all their genius in midfield, they didn't have anyone who could finish all the chances they created. Would they have been better off with Rooney up there running his arse off or a poacher like Chicharito who is eager to make runs behind and getting on the end of every pass? It has nothing to do with who the better player is and everything to do with what the team in question needs.

As I said, Rooney is a great player, but I don't trust him as a lone striker in a team that lacks other goalscorers. We're asking him to be the main outlet for goals, and we don't have anyone else in the team that we can be sure will get more than 15 goals in one season. Hell, even Rooney didn't get 15 goals last season. I'm a firm believer in every good team having at least one player that will guarantee goals. Barca have three in Messi, Suarez and Neymar; Bayern have three in Lewandowski, Müller and Robben; Real Madrid have three in Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema; City have Agüero; Chelsea have Costa and PSG have Ibrahimovic and Cavani, and they've been doing a hell of a lot better than us lately. The last time we had a player like that, we won the league. Sadly, RVP collapsed like a house of cards after that one season.

I can't see us challenging for the league title, let alone the Champions League, unless we get someone who can score more goals. We should be looking at players that score twice the amount that Rooney does. The fact that such a player exists, even without considering Ronaldo and Messi, tells me that Rooney isn't good enough to be the main striker for a team with ambitions in Europe. If he has someone in front of him who can score the goals, however...
 
He has Sturridge in front of him for England, which means he doesn't get the whole burden of goalscoring on himself. He was also a much bigger goal threat a few years ago, which is why he's still even considered a striker. Now he's slower and less aggressive going forward.

Even though they're not top 4, take Liverpool as an example. They have a very good midfield with a decent mix of workhorses and creative players, but they struggled for goals last season in Sturridge's absence. Do you think they would rather have another worker like Rooney or a goalscorer like Sturridge as their lone striker, all other things equal? I'd wager Sturridge would be the better fit, given that he stays injury-free, even if he's only half the player Rooney is overall. It's like Spain in the Euros in 2012. Even though they won the tournament they were extremely underwhelming in the group stage when they were playing Fabregas up front. For all their genius in midfield, they didn't have anyone who could finish all the chances they created. Would they have been better off with Rooney up there running his arse off or a poacher like Chicharito who is eager to make runs behind and getting on the end of every pass? It has nothing to do with who the better player is and everything to do with what the team in question needs.

As I said, Rooney is a great player, but I don't trust him as a lone striker in a team that lacks other goalscorers. We're asking him to be the main outlet for goals, and we don't have anyone else in the team that we can be sure will get more than 15 goals in one season. Hell, even Rooney didn't get 15 goals last season. I'm a firm believer in every good team having at least one player that will guarantee goals. Barca have three in Messi, Suarez and Neymar; Bayern have three in Lewandowski, Müller and Robben; Real Madrid have three in Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema; City have Agüero; Chelsea have Costa and PSG have Ibrahimovic and Cavani, and they've been doing a hell of a lot better than us lately. The last time we had a player like that, we won the league. Sadly, RVP collapsed like a house of cards after that one season.

I can't see us challenging for the league title, let alone the Champions League, unless we get someone who can score more goals. We should be looking at players that score twice the amount that Rooney does. The fact that such a player exists, even without considering Ronaldo and Messi, tells me that Rooney isn't good enough to be the main striker for a team with ambitions in Europe. If he has someone in front of him who can score the goals, however...
I agree with everything you've said, but in 13/14 and even last season United struggled to create chances. With the addition of the new players and the fact it's LvG's second season, I expect the midfield behind Rooney to create more chances for him and therefore I expect Rooney to hit better numbers than the last 2 seasons.
 
He has Sturridge in front of him for England, which means he doesn't get the whole burden of goalscoring on himself. He was also a much bigger goal threat a few years ago, which is why he's still even considered a striker. Now he's slower and less aggressive going forward.

Even though they're not top 4, take Liverpool as an example. They have a very good midfield with a decent mix of workhorses and creative players, but they struggled for goals last season in Sturridge's absence. Do you think they would rather have another worker like Rooney or a goalscorer like Sturridge as their lone striker, all other things equal? I'd wager Sturridge would be the better fit, given that he stays injury-free, even if he's only half the player Rooney is overall. It's like Spain in the Euros in 2012. Even though they won the tournament they were extremely underwhelming in the group stage when they were playing Fabregas up front. For all their genius in midfield, they didn't have anyone who could finish all the chances they created. Would they have been better off with Rooney up there running his arse off or a poacher like Chicharito who is eager to make runs behind and getting on the end of every pass? It has nothing to do with who the better player is and everything to do with what the team in question needs.

As I said, Rooney is a great player, but I don't trust him as a lone striker in a team that lacks other goalscorers. We're asking him to be the main outlet for goals, and we don't have anyone else in the team that we can be sure will get more than 15 goals in one season. Hell, even Rooney didn't get 15 goals last season. I'm a firm believer in every good team having at least one player that will guarantee goals. Barca have three in Messi, Suarez and Neymar; Bayern have three in Lewandowski, Müller and Robben; Real Madrid have three in Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema; City have Agüero; Chelsea have Costa and PSG have Ibrahimovic and Cavani, and they've been doing a hell of a lot better than us lately. The last time we had a player like that, we won the league. Sadly, RVP collapsed like a house of cards after that one season.

I can't see us challenging for the league title, let alone the Champions League, unless we get someone who can score more goals. We should be looking at players that score twice the amount that Rooney does. The fact that such a player exists, even without considering Ronaldo and Messi, tells me that Rooney isn't good enough to be the main striker for a team with ambitions in Europe. If he has someone in front of him who can score the goals, however...

I see your point, and agree with the goal scorer requirement. But the original comment was Rooney isnt good enough for top 4 up front, and I disagree.

As I said does that mean I wouldnt want us to sign a Lewadowski, or Muller, no of course not. I'd like us to sign one of these and thus a player you'd assume guarantees you 20+ goals. But Rooney given a full season up top I believe will get us that. My issue is different and that we'll have 50-60 odd games this year (hopefully) and Rooney cant be our only striker and when his form dips or injury who comes in. I like Hernandez but if we could rotate Rooney or play Rooney alongside a world class striker then all good. But who is available?
 
He is proven in a diamond formation, but as a lone striker with his size in the premier league i would have my doubts.

Exciting player nonetheless.
Size means nothing, look at aguero/tevez and many others, if you use ur body well and know how to shield the ball your either getting fouled or keeping the ball.
 
I see your point, and agree with the goal scorer requirement. But the original comment was Rooney isnt good enough for top 4 up front, and I disagree.

He wouldn't be the main striker at Chelsea or City. He'd definitely start ahead of Giroud at Arsenal, but I suspect Sanchez would still end up with more goals than him. It's very dependant on what role he's given. As part of a front two, Rooney starts every game for every team in the league. If he wants to be the lone forward and main goalscorer, he'd probably need to go to Southampton before he'd a nailed-on starting spot. The teams above all have better players for that job.
 
He's not good enough for a Premier League top 4 club. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't watched him.

I wouldn't go that far but I agree he'd another one who's overrated purely because he's an exotic foreign signing that most people haven't seen.
 
So if he signs a new deal, is this another player who has 'used' United now?!? We're being made fools! As some would say on here.... lulz
 
Has now signed a new contract with Lyon. Chances of a move? Practically zero.
 
So if he signs a new deal, is this another player who has 'used' United now?!? We're being made fools! As some would say on here.... lulz

Nobody is using United. Its more or less a perceptual illusion among fans who are upset that we don't buy their preferred player of the moment.
 
So if he signs a new deal, is this another player who has 'used' United now?!? We're being made fools! As some would say on here.... lulz

Not really, he said a long time ago that he would sign a new contract.

:lol: White text... Wanker.
 
He's probably made the smart decision to stay in Ligue 1 and secure his place in the Euro 2016 team, after all it will be in France. If he has another good season and a performs in the summer he'll still only be 25 and will have his pick of the top clubs.
 
Don't think we were ever in for him so I'm glad he's signed a new deal and not joining a Prem rival. Could be on the radar for us next season though.
 
What happened to him? At least he has a proven goal scoring record...
 
I didn't think it warranted a new thread, but Newcastle have had a bid for him turned down. Apprently only £18.5m, and it made Lyon "think twice about saying no"...

 
I didn't think it warranted a new thread, but Newcastle have had a bid for him turned down. Apprently only £18.5m, and it made Lyon "think twice about saying no"...



After all the talk only 4 months ago of him being a big transfer prospect, he seems to have had a fall from grace somewhat by being linked to Newcastle at a fraction of the price that was previously suggested
 
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