Alexandre Lacazette

[Hed Zitin]

Going into the season without a striker that can hold the ball up is a big change for Jose. Why change around something that's worked so well for years?

I'd rather go for Modeste.

 

[izec]

I will believe these rumours once he holds up a United shirt.

 

[Silas]

He'd be a good signing, but getting him would make signing Perisic pretty pointless, so it'll be one or the other I reckon. He's decent in the air, but it isn't his main strength, so having a winger constantly pumping balls into the box wouldn't be the best use of his abilities. We'd be better off with a wide forward (Martial, etc) that he could link up with instead. Seeing as the Perisic rumours seem much more solid, I doubt we'll be in for Lacazette. Someone who's a major aerial threat seems more likely.

 

[AdNani]

Going into the season without a striker that can hold the ball up is a big change for Jose. Why change around something that's worked so well for years?

I'd rather go for Modeste.

We wouldn't be, he's very good at holding the ball up, the idea that you have to be over 6 foot to hold the ball up is infuriating

 

[xplatformjedi]

We wouldn't be, he's very good at holding the ball up, the idea that you have to be over 6 foot to hold the ball up is infuriating

I'm assuming they haven't actually seen many, if any, Lyon games.

 

[Mainoldo]

He'd be a good signing, but getting him would make signing Perisic pretty pointless, so it'll be one or the other I reckon. He's decent in the air, but it isn't his main strength, so having a winger constantly pumping balls into the box wouldn't be the best use of his abilities. We'd be better off with a wide forward (Martial, etc) that he could link up with instead. Seeing as the Perisic rumours seem much more solid, I doubt we'll be in for Lacazette. Someone who's a major aerial threat seems more likely.

But he's a great header of the ball. It would be like seeing Kevin Phillips in the box and not crossing it. He'd probably rip the wingers head off.

Stop typecasting.

 

[Silas]

But he's a great header of the ball. It would be like seeing Kevin Phillips in the box and not crossing it. He'd probably rip the wingers head off.

Stop typecasting.

What? Out of his 35 goals this season, 2 were headers. Did I not make it clear enough, in literally the 2nd sentence, that I acknowledge that he's decent in the air? My point was that being an aerial threat isn't his main strength and it clearly isn't, so I'm not too sure what you're talking about.

 

[xplatformjedi]

I'd much rather have him than Lukaku. His link up play is very good, great pace, great finisher... and he can play defense when needed.

He's also a good player for Rashford to learn from.

I just watched both legs of the Roma vs Lyon Europa league competitions.

Lacazette can't be our only up front signing... but he'd be a good addition for 55 million.

 

[P-Nut]

I'd much rather have him than Lukaku. His link up play is very good, great pace, great finisher... and he can play defense when needed.

He's also a good player for Rashford to learn from.

I just watched both legs of the Roma vs Lyon Europa league competitions.

Lacazette can't be our only up front signing... but he'd be a good addition for 55 million.

??

 

[DrRodo]

Exciting player, on form right now and ready to make the jump to a top league. Maybe not the typical Mourinho player since he isnt 6'2 but thats about it, his hold up play is top and also he adds work ethic, dribble and pace, and is one of those strikers who can create a goal from thin air (like Agüero type of st, no at his level still though) which is something only Zlatan offered us and we dont know yet if he will stay nor if hell return to top level after his recovery.

I hope he isnt the only signing up front tho

 

[altodevil]

Off to Arsenal it seems. No idea why we aren't in for him at the price quoted. Whether he fits our 'system' or not, he's a better forward than anyone we have currently.

 

[ocprodigy]

Off to Arsenal it seems. No idea why we aren't in for him at the price quoted. Whether he fits our 'system' or not, he's a better forward than anyone we have currently.

I'd imagine it's because we're looking to sign Morata, and Jose has indicated he doesn't want Lacazette?

 

[Escobar]

Off to Arsenal it seems. No idea why we aren't in for him at the price quoted. Whether he fits our 'system' or not, he's a better forward than anyone we have currently.

I'm confident we will announce Morate in the next 72 hours

 

[altodevil]

I'd imagine it's because we're looking to sign Morata, and Jose has indicated he doesn't want Lacazette?

Yes, I assumed that was the case. I was really wondering why that is when he is cheaper and still better than anyone we have.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I'd imagine it's because we're looking to sign Morata, and Jose has indicated he doesn't want Lacazette?

either would have been excellent, but if we end with neither, I will be pissed off.

 

[Noc-Z]

Off to Arsenal it seems. No idea why we aren't in for him at the price quoted. Whether he fits our 'system' or not, he's a better forward than anyone we have currently.

Lacazette is no big loss. Last season he got 28 goals in Ligue 1, Cavani got 35 and I don't rate Cavani! So Lacazette going to Arsenal doesn't strike any great fear in me. 45M seems reasonable enough in this window though and he's good enough for them.

 

[Raoul]

Lacazette is no big loss. Last season he got 28 goals in Ligue 1, Cavani got 35 and I don't rate Cavani! So Lacazette going to Arsenal doesn't strike any great fear in me. 45M seems reasonable enough in this window though and he's good enough for them.

He actually got 37 goals in 45 fixtures last year which is a great scoring record. More importantly, he's averaged 30 goals a year for the past 3 years. Arsenal have got a very good player. They still need to add a bit more in the attacking department, perhaps in the way of Mahrez, as well as retain Alexis if they want to threaten for the league next year.

 

[vodrake]

Lacazette is no big loss. Last season he got 28 goals in Ligue 1, Cavani got 35 and I don't rate Cavani! So Lacazette going to Arsenal doesn't strike any great fear in me. 45M seems reasonable enough in this window though and he's good enough for them.

10 of those were penalties as well

 

[RDCR07]

10 of those were penalties as well

10 of the 28 goals weren't penalties. It's out of 37 goals. Get your facts straight.

 

[Moonred]

His record is quite good though. I have doubts but can't say anything against his scoring record.

 

[Noc-Z]

He actually got 37 goals in 45 fixtures last year which is a great scoring record. More importantly, he's averaged 30 goals a year for the past 3 years. Arsenal have got a very good player. They still need to add a bit more in the attacking department, perhaps in the way of Mahrez, as well as retain Alexis if they want to threaten for the league next year.

I actually don't think it is a great goal scoring record. 7 were in the Europa League. As much as I enjoyed winning it, I can't say the quality was great. He got 2 against a poor AZ Alkmaar in a 4-1 game (it was 11-2 on aggregate!) and he got 2 against Ajax, who I thought looked pretty bad against us. I'm afraid I don't rate goals scored in France too highly.

10 of those were penalties as well

So 18 goals in open play? I'm not so sure that's a great record in Ligue 1! Be interesting to see how that translates to the Premier League. Clearly Cavani was the dominant scorer in France last season, and I don't think too many of us would be that keen on signing him.

 

[Sammyjunn]

I actually don't think it is a great goal scoring record. 7 were in the Europa League. As much as I enjoyed winning it, I can't say the quality was great. He got 2 against a poor AZ Alkmaar in a 4-1 game (it was 11-2 on aggregate!) and he got 2 against Ajax, who I thought looked pretty bad against us. I'm afraid I don't rate goals scored in France too highly.



So 18 goals in open play? I'm not so sure that's a great record in Ligue 1! Be interesting to see how that translates to the Premier League. Clearly Cavani was the dominant scorer in France last season, and I don't think too many of us would be that keen on signing him.

Ligue 1 is generally a low scoring league.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Hes more proven and better than Morata, guess Mou prefers Morata and his style of play. Very good striker who will bring Arsenal a lot.

 

[Raoul]

I actually don't think it is a great goal scoring record. 7 were in the Europa League. As much as I enjoyed winning it, I can't say the quality was great. He got 2 against a poor AZ Alkmaar in a 4-1 game (it was 11-2 on aggregate!) and he got 2 against Ajax, who I thought looked pretty bad against us. I'm afraid I don't rate goals scored in France too highly.



So 18 goals in open play? I'm not so sure that's a great record in Ligue 1! Be interesting to see how that translates to the Premier League. Clearly Cavani was the dominant scorer in France last season, and I don't think too many of us would be that keen on signing him.

Doesn't matter where the goals came whether in the league or Europe, they still count the same. He's demonstrated consistency by way of averaging 30 goals a year for the past three years, so it's clear he's not some one season wonder. He'll get at least 25 or more for Arsenal next year which if they lose Alexis will be vital in making up for his production.

 

[vodrake]

10 of the 28 goals weren't penalties. It's out of 37 goals. Get your facts straight.

10 of his 28 league goals were penalties, and 1 out of his 6 Europa League goals. So it's 11 penalties out of 37 goals for the full numbers.

But it was 10 out of 28 in the league as penalties.

 

[Noc-Z]

10 of the 28 goals weren't penalties. It's out of 37 goals. Get your facts straight.

Penalties in Ligue 1:

2 v Nancy 14 Aug 16
1 v Guingamp 22 Oct 16
1 v Toulouse 29 Oct 16
1 v Bastia 5 Nov 16
1 v Nantes 30 Nov 16
1 v Caen 15 Jan 17
1 v Lille 28 Jan 17
1 v Nancy 8 Feb 17
1 v Dijon 19 Feb 17

Looks like Vodrake did have his facts straight?

 

[RedCurry]

He'll be a significant upgrade on their strikers. But if they lose Sanchez in the same window, it basically nullifies the improvement. I reckon he'll be a popular player in the league.

 

[Noc-Z]

Doesn't matter where the goals came whether in the league or Europe, they still count the same. He's demonstrated consistency by way of averaging 30 goals a year for the past three years, so it's clear he's not some one season wonder. He'll get at least 25 or more for Arsenal next year which if they lose Alexis will be vital in making up for his production.

I fully believe it does matter. Or maybe Arsenal should have gone for Pero Pejic - he got 28 league goals for Kukesi last season and would have been a lot cheaper. 28 goals is 28 goals right? Same league goals as Lacazette, so exact same level eh? That's how it works?

You say he will "get at least 25 (goals) or more for Arsenal next year (season)" with such certainty. Well, it looks like he's signing, so we shall see...

 

[Raoul]

I fully believe it does matter. Or maybe Arsenal should have gone for Pero Pejic - he got 28 league goals for Kukesi last season and would have been a lot cheaper. 28 goals is 28 goals right? Same league goals as Lacazette, so exact same level eh? That's how it works?

You say he will "get at least 25 (goals) or more for Arsenal next year (season)" with such certainty. Well, it looks like he's signing, so we shall see...

We're talking within the framework of big European leagues - as in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, and France.

I would've been very happy if we bought Lacazette and am confident he will be a massive player for Arsenal. Although he alone won't be the difference maker. They still have to buy more attackers to offset the possibility of losing Giroud and Alexis. Lacazette, much like Morata, is just entering his prime career years so they are buying him at just the right time.

 

[El-Manos]

Good signing for them, however providing we get Morata I won't be too bothered.

 

[Noc-Z]

We're talking within the framework of big European leagues - as in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, and France.

I would've been very happy if we bought Lacazette and am confident he will be a massive player for Arsenal. Although he alone won't be the difference maker. They still have to buy more attackers to offset the possibility of losing Giroud and Alexis. Lacazette, much like Morata, is just entering his prime career years so they are buying him at just the right time.

I know what you're saying, but I'm not so sure goals in France translate well to the Premier League. In fact if we're talking big European leagues I would have France a tier below England, Spain and Germany. I do believe he's better than what they have though so, not a bad signing for them. We've got Champions League next season though and title aspirations, so I believe we need better than Lacazette. I also believe Morata is a better player than Lacazette. But time will tell!

 

[Raoul]

I know what you're saying, but I'm not so sure goals in France translate well to the Premier League. In fact if we're talking big European leagues I would have France a tier below England, Spain and Germany. I do believe he's better than what they have though so, not a bad signing for them. We've got Champions League next season though and title aspirations, so I believe we need better than Lacazette. I also believe Morata is a better player than Lacazette. But time will tell!

France is obviously not quite at the level of England, but that doesn't mean that certain players in the French league wouldn't be successful if they moved to the Prem. Ibra did very well despite being "old", Mbappe, Lacazette, and Cavani would also do well here.

 

[RyRoc]

I fully believe it does matter. Or maybe Arsenal should have gone for Pero Pejic - he got 28 league goals for Kukesi last season and would have been a lot cheaper. 28 goals is 28 goals right? Same league goals as Lacazette, so exact same level eh? That's how it works?

You say he will "get at least 25 (goals) or more for Arsenal next year (season)" with such certainty. Well, it looks like he's signing, so we shall see...

Extremely simple well of looking at things. France is actually quite a defensive league the only couple of strikers that have ridiculous goalscoring records over the last few years in that league are Cavani and Ibra - both playing for the best team in PSG. Arsenal create a lot of chances and based on what he's done in the French league it's fair to predict that he will score quite a few goals. Of course like all signings from other league that have never played in the Premier League it 's a risk. There are other things you can look at to suggest whilst Lacazette might not do it in the Premiership but his goalscoring record based on what he did in France isn't one.

 

[Noc-Z]

Extremely simple well of looking at things. France is actually quite a defensive league the only couple of strikers that have ridiculous goalscoring records over the last few years in that league are Cavani and Ibra - both playing for the best team in PSG. Arsenal create a lot of chances and based on what he's done in the French league it's fair to predict that he will score quite a few goals. Of course like all signings from other league that have never played in the Premier League it 's a risk. There are other things you can look at to suggest whilst Lacazette might not do it in the Premiership but his goalscoring record based on what he did in France isn't one.

Football is a simple game, but in any case your way of looking at it isn't complex either! If his performance in France is not one of the things you would look at I don't know what you would. On what other basis would you sign him? The post you quoted was in response to someone saying with apparent certainty that he will get 25 goals or more for Arsenal next season. I'm saying that just beside he's scored in France doesn't guarantee him goals in England, I don't see why you've got an issue with that. Quite simply, we don't know, there are no guarantees. And I do maintain French football is a level below the English game. It really is that simple...let's not complicate the beautiful game eh?

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Lacazette suits EPL football down to the ground. Wenger football even more. Its nothing but a good signing for Arsenal. They are getting a good, consistent goal scorer with potential to be a great one, if Wenger can improve him further.

 

[Raees]

Lacazette suits EPL football down to the ground. Wenger football even more. Its nothing but a good signing for Arsenal. They are getting a good, consistent goal scorer with potential to be a great one, if Wenger can improve him further.

Agreed.

 

[Nori-]

I think we are going to regret not buying this guy. In my opinion he will get more goals than Morata, will cost less and will work better with the way we play.

Great signing for Arsenal.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

I think we are going to regret not buying this guy. In my opinion he will get more goals than Morata, will cost less and will work better with the way we play.

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We won't. He wouldn't suit us under our current boss. No way he's suit us better than Moratta. That's wishful thinking.

 

[GledTheRed]

I reckon he will tear shit up in that Arsenal team.

 

[KN5]

We're talking within the framework of big European leagues - as in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, and France.

I would've been very happy if we bought Lacazette and am confident he will be a massive player for Arsenal. Although he alone won't be the difference maker. They still have to buy more attackers to offset the possibility of losing Giroud and Alexis. Lacazette, much like Morata, is just entering his prime career years so they are buying him at just the right time.

France aren't really a big league, they're definitely not, can't be grouped with the top 4, they have strong teams at the top of the scale with Monaco and PSG but the overall league quality is so dire it makes me sad, i hate to disagree with you because well, it's you.