Ah so this is the 2020 equivalent signing of Dalot, even from the same club as him no less
The 2018 repeat summer is complete
Feck this club
The 2018 repeat summer is complete
Feck this club
Alex Telles - SIGNED for United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Most left backs are better than Shaw. Shaw is not the standard. We can do better.
There's hyperbole and then there's this.
Ideal. Will be hard to sell Shaw in a year or so with his wages but we can worry about that another time.
He was penalty taker for Porto last season so unless he has that job with us he won't be getting near 10 goals, he has never been close to that total in any previous season.
I think it's Telles' goal numbers that makes a lot of people think he's better than he is, he takes Porto's penalties and out of the 24 goals he's scored for them, only 3 came from open play. He'd be a relatively good signing if we pay up to £10 million max for him with a year left on his contract, any more than that and we're getting ripped off. He isn't a better full back than Shaw, just because Telles has more FIFA in forms doesn't mean he's a better player.
This guy if he's coming won't be anything more than a backup for Shaw.
he doesn't have to better than Shaw, he just has to be a good alternative. Just can't have a steep drop-off when Shaw inevitably gets injured.
With the difference that this guy is a Brazil international,has a shed load of goals and assists, a regular starter for Porto, experienced and older by about 7 years.Ah so this is the 2020 equivalent signing of Dalot, even from the same club as him no less
The 2018 repeat summer is complete
Feck this club
Other than that , it exactly the same type of signing.
Telles is better going forward but he's inferior to Shaw when defending.
Thank you good sir.
Like Kieran Tierney for example?
He is 1.85cm....I'm shocked, thought he was much smaller. You may be onto something. G Nev could have been centre back but was only 1.79cm.
That's exactly what he is. His strengths are Shaw weaknesses and viceversa. Telles is great going forward. He also rarely gets injured. However defensive wise he's a bit meah and he's pretty light weight.
Exactly. For the reported fee, sounds like good business. We really do need another option at LB other than Williams.
A lot easier when you hog every set-piece including penalties.
Just hoping he is better than the last player we signed from Porto.
Which most of us know already but Shaw;when needed to progress against weaker sides plays safe far too often. We'll need someone to attack down the flank as an alternative. Plus Shaw was tanked by the end of the post lockdown phase. With no decent cover there we were exposed
I'm not saying that we don't need some more depth, but I don't see Telles as a potential first choice LB for us ahead of Shaw. I agree that Telles or anyone else would still get a lot of games because of Shaw's injury record.
I think full backs that can play both sides are better options to have on the bench than those who can only play on one flank. Even with seven subs, you generally only want one of them.
Junior Firpo I think.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/alex-telles/alletore/spieler/255755
4 goals are from open-play.
4 goals are from open-play.
| Season 19/20 | |||||||||||
| 1 | A | (1.) | Gil Vicente (10.) | 2:1 | LB | 73' | 1:1 | Penalty | |||
| 5 | A | (2.) | Portimonense (12.) | 2:3 | LB | 28' | 0:1 | Penalty | |||
| 11 | A | (2.) | Boavista (6.) | 0:1 | LB | 9' | 0:1 | Left-footed shot | |||
| 13 | A | (2.) | Belenenses SAD (12.) | 1:1 | LB | 32' | 1:1 | Penalty | |||
| 16 | A | (2.) | Moreirense (14.) | 2:4 | LB | 39' | 1:2 | Penalty | |||
| Semi-Finals | A | Vit. Guimarães | 1:2 | LB | 66' | 1:1 | Left-footed shot | ||||
| 19 | A | (2.) | Vitória Setúbal (8.) | 0:4 | LB | 44' | 0:2 | Left-footed shot | |||
| 20 | H | (2.) | Benfica (1.) | 3:2 | LB | 38' | 2:1 | Penalty | |||
| Semi-Finals | H | Académico Viseu | 3:0 | LB | 19' | 1:0 | Penalty | ||||
| 22 | H | (2.) | Portimonense (17.) | 1:0 | LB | 87' | 1:0 | Left-footed shot | |||
| 28 | H | (1.) | Boavista (8.) | 4:0 | LB | 60' | 2:0 | Penalty | |||
| 30 | H | (1.) | Belenenses SAD (12.) | 5:0 | LB | 75' | 3:0 | Penalty | |||
| 33 | H | (1.) | Moreirense (8.) | 6:1 | LB | 56' | 3:1 | Penalty |
I’m going to turn my back on this transfer until the Utd website formally announces it. ITKs and journalists getting it horribly wrong this summer and us being used in lame transfer shenanigans, so I’m just going to say he’d fit in well at PSG and call it at that until he’s holding a Utd shirt in a photo.
Shaw doesn't have a poor injury record. It's a myth. He had a terrible double one against PSV which took him out for a year and he struggled to get back. What made it worse was that Jose didn't trust him and he lost confidence. Since Ole came in, he's looked more like the player we saw at Soton. The problem with him is that, we've relied on him entirely at LB without any real respite hence the injury late on
Are we talking about crossing? Then maybe that’s true. Aside from that, if Shaw could cross I don’t think there would be many better left backs around.
I am not arguing with that. However Telles is an attacking wingback per excellence. He'll leave plenty of space behind. I wonder if slow and slower can close the gaps left by someone like him.
Which doesn't tell the whole story. His dead ball and crossing are far better than Shaw's. And those stats suggest he has the bottle to score with his pens. If Bruno's out then we have someone who equally doesn't seem to miss very much
Remains to be seen who plays in the defensive cover position when he bombs forward. It's for the coaches to ponder
There is TBFI don't think there was a single clip of his defending skills on youtube
Bullshit
We don't really have much of a choice. Slabhead is captain and he's our best CB. Bailly and Tuanzebe are in competition who get's injured first. Mengi is too young while Rojo and Jones are in competition on the biggest meme in defending history (Jones will win that hands down). That leaves us with Lindelof.
Shaw has a much worse aerial duel rate than Lindelof despite not being playing in the center (typically strikers tend to be taller than wingers, so CBs have a harder job in that aspect). He is not trash in air (like AWB for example), but he is actually worse than Lindelof at it. And Lindelof is already mediocre/average on that aspect.
Glad we have given up on Shaw. There's always something with him.
Well he's winning that one as he's nowhere near fit.
So it's Slabhead and Victor,' white men can't jump' Lindelhof as our CBs
What do you mean. given up? He played last week
Didn't see his tackle but I'm not sure I want to....Maybe a tackle or 2
thats the title secured then
Who says we've given up on Shaw? Our left sided play was wank after lockdown because Shaw was missing.
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