Alex Sandro

Arbitrium said:
Not in the slightest, we turned evra into an amazing fullback Sandro already is one and can surely go on to bigger heights in the PL he’s perfectly suited to it.
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True, Sandro has evidenced a higher level than Evra when we signed the latter from Monaco, and was probably the best leftback in club football after only Marcelo on the basis of last season with some glittering and well-rounded performances:


It's just that he'll be part of a different, more fragmented framework with this team (vis-à-vis United under Fergie, or even last season's Juventus under Allegri), so it might be wise to dampen the expectations a tad bit - lest the proclamations come to bite us in the arse. :)
 
Would be a fantastic signing. Hope we get him and Savic done before the World Cup. Would strenghten our squad with genuine world class quality.
 
Sandro is the best LB we can realistically get. Marcelo, Felipe and Alaba are the only LBs I'd say are better than him. Would be a good signing even at an inflated price.
 
Judas said:
modern football fan in a nutshell.
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I knew I'd get hate for this but at least I said it like it is. I mean everyone is an expert here watching 50 games of Man United, 50 games of Juventus, and so on, so you exactly know how good every single of 30 players we are apparently interested is. It is impossible to watch all those games and have real picture of a player how he plays. People would be either in this case fans of Juventus, "no-lifers"/football fanatics or football scouts.

So by no means I think Youtube video is a good enough reference material you could judge a player upon but you can get an idea how he is in some parts of his game and I can't say he really impressed me in this regard but what the hell I know I only have time in my life to watch 50 games of United with a occassional game here and there of other teams, based on which I can barely make a legit opinion of a player..

So what is your honest opinion about Alex Sandro and based on what you would want him at United, other than that paper speculations about him being a good addition? Now I don't want to compare him to Darmian by playing style or how better one is than the other but according to some papers Juventus is interested in Darmian. How big idea their fans have about Darmian who may have not played enough games this year but last year had a similar number of games as Sandro this year for Juventus. Do they think he's good enough? We all know he's dog shite watching his every single game.
 
Donut said:
I've seen people posting he hasn't been too good this season?

I guess he's still the best available and the sooner we move on from Young and Shaw as our starters the better.
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The quality is there with Alex Sandro, I think he needs a new challenge. He’d be a brilliant acquisition. He’s very good defensively and supports the attack well. Valencia is a good comparison even though some are sniffing at it.

I think he’d be an ideal fit for our left with a more rampaging attacking option on the right which is needed to balance the right win which we tend to have a technical player who likes to pull centrally in Mara or Lingard.
 
Sandro would be a big upgrade on the dross we currently have in that position. Hopefully he won't be the only full back we buy.
 
Apparently he hasn't been as good this season because he wants out, but last season he was a monster and only second to Marcelo who's probably been the most decisive LB this decade. Every time I watched Juventus last season, I agree he was great.
 
Laurentiu amt said:
Man you watched 8 feking minutes of him playing. I know you're entitled to your own opinion, but that's a bit BS, isn't it?
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I answered in another comment. I know I'd have get some stick here but who did seriously watch this guy enough to make a real opinion? We are looking for a left back who can attack, I simply don't see much in Sandro's attacking game over the players we already have. Think the highlight reel can give you some idea about the players capability attacking wise while not showing all parts, in fact it usually shows him in a good light because things like decision making are barely included or seen and you can see only the BEST crosses, take ons and runs or passes and in that aspect I didn't see anything special from Sandro in the highlight video. I wouldn't dare to judge his defensive abilities because it shows very little.

And to get even more hate I think Young is very underrated here. This year he's got 2+7 in 3006mins vs. Sandro 4+6 in 3100 mins in a much more defensive set up and not exactly dominating team. What I see is a new shiny name, a Brazilian from Juventus, who must be tearing the league apart vs. very unshiny name Ashley Young who was supposed to be Fergie's great in-league signing but who failed to live up the potential, who is just a back up LB on his last legs.

Now before people start hating I am all for an upgrade after a sad underwhelming season but I wouldn't expect Sandro to be a big upgrade on what we have, he looks as if he could be a good solid addition but not taking us to another level like other people expect replacing Young and Valencia, with the brand of football we play under Mourinho in comparison with how they set up and play under Allegri in Juventus..
 
The Valencia comparisons do make sense, if he's the Alex Sandro of this season then it won't change much but if he's at his best it would be a brilliant signing.

United clearly need a left back and there's a lack of great left backs in world football right now. Alex Sandro is probably the best option.
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
I answered in another comment. I know I'd have get some stick here but who did seriously watch this guy enough to make a real opinion? We are looking for a left back who can attack, I simply don't see much in Sandro's attacking game over the players we already have. Think the highlight reel can give you some idea about the players capability attacking wise while not showing all parts, in fact it usually shows him in a good light because things like decision making are barely included or seen and you can see only the BEST crosses, take ons and runs or passes and in that aspect I didn't see anything special from Sandro in the highlight video. I wouldn't dare to judge his defensive abilities because it shows very little.

And to get even more hate I think Young is very underrated here. This year he's got 2+7 in 3006mins vs. Sandro 4+6 in 3100 mins in a much more defensive set up and not exactly dominating team. What I see is a new shiny name, a Brazilian from Juventus, who must be tearing the league apart vs. very unshiny name Ashley Young who was supposed to be Fergie's great in-league signing but who failed to live up the potential, who is just a back up LB on his last legs.

Now before people start hating I am all for an upgrade after a sad underwhelming season but I wouldn't expect Sandro to be a big upgrade on what we have, he looks as if he could be a good solid addition but not taking us to another level like other people expect replacing Young and Valencia, with the brand of football we play under Mourinho in comparison with how they set up and play under Allegri in Juventus..
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Are you basing this on a highlights reel? Sandro is so good in attack that he’s played as left winger in many big games. He’s on a completely other level than Ashley Young.

It’s a good idea to stay silent when you have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
Would be a terrific signing and basically along the lines of the best possible left back we could sign. Would have liked Tierney as that's more the "classic United" type signing but tbf we do need more ready now quality at the back. Sandro just turned 27 though so he'd have plenty of years left at the top, so hope it's true! Would guess at least 50m would be his price. Closest thing to replacing Evra basically.
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
Not sure about A. Sandro, would he be an upgrade even on Young? I watched 8 minute highlight video reel, he seems very average going forward to me. Some okay crosses but you could make that from any fullback, pick the good ones... he doesn't seem to take on players, more making runs, would be more like Brazilian Luke Shaw, he would have to be absolutely solid defensively which is hard to tell from such compilation which doesn't show much. Would people be even excited about him if he wasn't Brazilian?

I am not convinced, hope our scouting team knows better, the lad from Celtic looks more explosive, leader on the pitch, more pace and would settle down quickly and plenty of potential.. We all know who would SAF be after..
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That's probably one of the worst posts I've read on here. Congratulations.
 
Haven't followed him this season but last few seasons I thought only Alba and Alaba were better. Marcelo might be GOAT so not gonna bring him into any discussion.
 
He is what we need, he wants to leave, Juventus want Darmian.....this is a no brainer.
 
KM said:
That's probably one of the worst posts I've read on here. Congratulations.
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yet you brought nothin into discussion:rolleyes: thanks for constructive critique. It is easy to get excited about players from other teams which you saw playing maybe in a game or two yourself which has almost identical stats to Ashley Young in a defensive set up team.

So for you again:
Ashley Young - 3006 mins = 2g + 7a
Alex Sandro - 3100 mins = 4g + 6a

btw A. Sandro 16/17 is on 3g+7a in his arguably best season
15/16 he's on 2g+5a
Is he a 60m upgrade on Young again playing in a more defensive team? Certainly we need a player there, should we make the move for Sandro though? And how many full games have you watched him in (which ones?) and basing your opinion on, I wonder?
 
Invictus said:
Shouldn't be a problem, mate. Sandro played in a back—4 at Porto, and even though Juventus switched around a bit with Alves and Barzagli to make it a staggered defense, Allegri used 4-2-3-1/4-4-2/4-5-1 hybrids for the most part - with Sandro behind Mandžukić:

Same this season — with lots of 4-3-3 and Christmas Tree alternates:

Should be perfectly fine in the Premier League under Mourinho - he doesn't have any weakness in him game, really - athletically complete and has a strong technical skill set - can envision him as a slightly worse version of Maicon in terms of his individual abilities. Quite like his fit with Sánchez down the flank: Alexis likes to roam - which means more space out wide for Sandro, and has decent work rate as well - so the defensive shape won't be compromised if Sandro goes on a barnstorming run (speaking of...one quality that makes Sandro really special is that he has a great knack for not leaving his flank overly exposed - even when he attacks). Will sound blasphemous, but he certainly has what it takes to approximate Evra's level for United.
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Oh man, you make me want him. :drool:
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
yet you brought nothin into discussion:rolleyes: thanks for constructive critique. It is easy to get excited about players from other teams which you saw playing maybe in a game or two yourself which has almost identical stats to Ashley Young in a defensive set up team.

So for you again:
Ashley Young - 3006 mins = 2g + 7a
Alex Sandro - 3100 mins = 4g + 6a

btw A. Sandro 16/17 is on 3g+7a in his arguably best season
15/16 he's on 2g+5a
Is he a 60m upgrade on Young again playing in a more defensive team? Certainly we need a player there, should we make the move for Sandro though? And how many full games have you watched him in (which ones?) and basing your opinion on, I wonder?
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I've been seen him in at least 15-20 games this season. I'm not gonna list each one of them for you but I think I'm more qualified in judging than someone who has watched an 8 minute video of him on YT and thus has concluded that he wouldn't be an upgrade on Young.
 
KM said:
I've been seen him in at least 15-20 games this season. I'm not gonna list each one of them for you but I think I'm more qualified in judging than someone who has watched an 8 minute video of him on YT and thus has concluded that he wouldn't be an upgrade on Young.
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15-20 full games playing for Juventus? seems like you've got plenty of time in your life:) What about the fact, they are on the same numbers with A. Young this year and the fact Juve play more attacking football in an easier league as you know because you're watching it? Please give me a serious answer
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
15-20 full games playing for Juventus? seems like you've got plenty of time in your life:) What about the fact, they are on the same numbers with A. Young this year and the fact Juve play more attacking football in an easier league as you know because you're watching it? Please give me a serious answer
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You realise goals and assists doesn't make one player better than another? Because if it were then James Milner would be better than Iniesta
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
15-20 full games playing for Juventus? seems like you've got plenty of time in your life:) What about the fact, they are on the same numbers with A. Young this year and the fact Juve play more attacking football in an easier league as you know because you're watching it? Please give me a serious answer
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Nah your post doesn't really deserve it. I mean for one, the starting point of your comparison for fullbacks is assists and goals. Can't argue with an intellectual like that

As far as my free time goes, you've got nothing to worry about that, worry about the posts on here.
 
If we sign him or Rose we're gonna was the 16/17 versions.

He's been pretty awful this season.
 
What's the point if he won't be allowed to go beyond the 16 yard box? Pretty sure he'll spend most of his being made to cross from deep, then most of the wankers on here complaining that he can't cross.
 
Skills said:
What's the point if he won't be allowed to go beyond the 16 yard box? Pretty sure he'll spend most of his being made to cross from deep, then most of the wankers on here complaining that he can't cross.
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that's the spirit!
 
charlenefan said:
You realise goals and assists doesn't make one player better than another? Because if it were then James Milner would be better than Iniesta
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Of course it doesn't tell you the whole story, everyone knows. I am just saying that some scouts here watching regularly Juventus might be surprised that he might not be a big upgrade in a Mourinho set up despite being a good addition:)

Some people even compared him to Marcelo ffs
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
Of course it doesn't tell you the whole story, everyone knows. I am just saying that some scouts here watching regularly Juventus might be surprised that he might not be a big upgrade in a Mourinho set up despite being a good addition:)

Some people even compared him to Marcelo ffs
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And you decided this based on an 8 minute video?

Also comparing goals and assists for full backs, is and has always been completely stupid.
 
I've said it before Sandro is the perfect left back for us and Mourinho, he's capable of the Ashley Young v Salah job whilst giving us much more attacking intent at the same time. Really hope we pull this one off
 
Anyone is better than Ashley Young on the left except Danny Rose, so yes i welcome this signing. In fact, i hope we get this done tomorrow
 
From that Castles piece it says the price is £22.9m, what made his price drop so dramatically from last summer? They were asking for about £60m at one point if I remember rightly.
 
We need energy and balance on the left... young has been great, but he always has to check onto his right and that doesn't give us the correct balance with a LW that also has to check onto his right to cut in.
We need speed, directness and no fear!!
 
Skills said:
What's the point if he won't be allowed to go beyond the 16 yard box? Pretty sure he'll spend most of his being made to cross from deep, then most of the wankers on here complaining that he can't cross.
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Sorry, but this opinion has really been catching on the forum of late, and is absolute crap.

Our full-backs are far from great, but to say Young and Valencia are not allowed to get forward is complete bullshit.
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
yet you brought nothin into discussion:rolleyes: thanks for constructive critique. It is easy to get excited about players from other teams which you saw playing maybe in a game or two yourself which has almost identical stats to Ashley Young in a defensive set up team.

So for you again:
Ashley Young - 3006 mins = 2g + 7a
Alex Sandro - 3100 mins = 4g + 6a

btw A. Sandro 16/17 is on 3g+7a in his arguably best season
15/16 he's on 2g+5a
Is he a 60m upgrade on Young again playing in a more defensive team? Certainly we need a player there, should we make the move for Sandro though? And how many full games have you watched him in (which ones?) and basing your opinion on, I wonder?
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Come on mate you are happy putting him down on the 8 minutes video but say it’s too short to comment on his strengths. Wisen up ffs what do you expect from that kind of comment.
 
KM said:
Nah your post doesn't really deserve it. I mean for one, the starting point of your comparison for fullbacks is assists and goals. Can't argue with an intellectual like that

As far as my free time goes, you've got nothing to worry about that, worry about the posts on here.
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I think you missed the point here, the point of the discussion was around the attacking input of our fullbacks, hence I was comparing the productivity, which is a big part of it, of two players.

Then it's a dead end for me too, you all using big words but cannot make a single reasonable argumentation yourself. It must have been very insightful 40000 posts from you then, that's congratulations to you and the people who follow your comments.

And so this post is not entirely empty like yours I will add another league statistics per 90 mins from squawka which backs Young as defensively more solid than Sandro by some margin http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ackles_won/interceptions/blocks/clearances#90 and before you start arguing again, no statistics is not everything but in this case just a statistic showcase of Young being better defensively which you can add to the mix to form your whole opinion or rather make a bigger picture of a player for someone who doesn't watch Juve 20 games per season like you.

BTW can't wait to see you in summer in different transfer threads where you say we should go after Malcom because you watched 20 games of G. Bordeaux and R. Neves from Wolves because you had time to watch handful of 30 games of Championship football and so on.. (just examples;)) cheers
 
Rozay said:
Sorry, but this opinion has really been catching on the forum of late, and is absolute crap.

Our full-backs are far from great, but to say Young and Valencia are not allowed to get forward is complete bullshit.
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Agreed. There have been times this season where Young's essentially been a second winger, when Shaw's played he's always up the pitch too.
 
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