Alex Sandro

Cliche Guevara said:
So you prefer to play alongside Lo Celso and Queresma rather than Pogba and Lukaku?
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I think players prefer to make good money, seriously compete for trophies (the real stuff not the FA crap cup) and live in a beautiful city. We can offer the former but not the latter two.
 
devilish said:
I think players prefer to make good money, seriously compete for trophies (the real stuff not the FA crap cup) and live in a beautiful city. We can offer the former but not the latter two.
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So romping Ligue 1 year after year means something now, does it?

No, it doesn’t.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
'Only' been to 25 out of 44 countries?

Paris is my favourite European City. Hell, its my favourite City, period. (Sydney is a close second but it's full of Australians). Excuse my bias, but it's absolutely top 10 in the world.

I'll take that list of 15 European Cities that are better. Just for fun. Shoot.

You could argue. But you can't argue when my comment revolved around why you'd choose Paris over Manchester.
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I said 'only' 25 countries cos I supposed you'd been to them all. :) I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.

I prefer Prague, Berlin, Krakow, Kyiv, Odessa, Manchester, London, Barcelona, Istanbul, Riga, Amsterdam, Skopje, Frankfurt, Budapest and Vienna and I haven't been to Rome, Belgrade, Milan, Zagreb, Munich etc. If you include the world, I also prefer cities like Bangkok, Manila, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Tokyo, Shanghai, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires and Bogotá by far.

Back on topic.. You guys reckon Sandro is staying at Juve, or is he Mourinho 'secret' that Ibra referred to?
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I said 'only' 25 countries cos I supposed you'd been to them all. :) I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.

I prefer Prague, Berlin, Krakow, Kyiv, Odessa, Manchester, London, Barcelona, Istanbul, Riga, Amsterdam, Skopje, Frankfurt, Budapest and Vienna and I haven't been to Rome, Belgrade, Milan, Zagreb, Munich etc. If you include the world, I also prefer cities like Bangkok, Manila, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Tokyo, Shanghai, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires and Bogotá by far.

Back on topic.. You guys reckon Sandro is staying at Juve, or is he Mourinho 'secret' that Ibra referred to?
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It does sound like you don’t like Paris that much.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I said 'only' 25 countries cos I supposed you'd been to them all. :) I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.

I prefer Prague, Berlin, Krakow, Kyiv, Odessa, Manchester, London, Barcelona, Istanbul, Riga, Amsterdam, Skopje, Frankfurt, Budapest and Vienna and I haven't been to Rome, Belgrade, Milan, Zagreb, Munich etc. If you include the world, I also prefer cities like Bangkok, Manila, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Tokyo, Shanghai, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires and Bogotá by far.

Back on topic.. You guys reckon Sandro is staying at Juve, or is he Mourinho 'secret' that Ibra referred to?
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You spent 10 days in Paris. That's feck all time and I doubt you actually truly met anyone, certainly not Parisians. Parisians are proud, cultured, largely well educated and fun loving. The stereotype of the Parisian you mention is one of the most undeserving I've ever heard and almost wholly perpetuated by people that can't speak French.

There is a HUGE difference from a box ticking visit and actually living somewhere.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but you're basing your experience of Paris (and I assume all others in your list) on mere days of experience.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.
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I’ve been in Paris a total of about 10 days as well, and I completely disagree with your description of Parisians.

It is a beautiful place and the people were nicer than any I’ve encountered in a large city.

Though I don’t know why we’re talking about this in the Alex Sandro thread.
 
This might prove an interesting read for those of you who haven't seen him play often.

If a year is a long time in politics, it’s an eternity in football. Little over 12 months ago, almost any Juventus supporter would have argued that Alex Sandro was the best left-back in the world. While fans of any club will constantly champion their own players ahead of any other, Sandro's continually excellent form meant that this was much more than mere bias.

Like his compatriot Marcelo, the Bianconeri star had played with consistency and ferocity, displaying all of the attributes needed to excel in that role. He proved himself capable of dominating the entire flank singlehandedly, and his defensive diligence and tactical awareness – attributes he'd honed to perfection in Serie A – were perhaps better than those of the Real Madrid flyer. But he had also continued to blossom as an attacking force.

Sandro, delivering crosses that even Roberto Carlos admitted were “more accurate than mine”, was a devastating threat to both of Juve's main Italian rivals and Champions League opponents as his side completed a domestic double and reached the Champions League final. They lost 4-1 to Real Madrid in Cardiff, but that did little to dispel interest in Sandro, who emerged as a top transfer target for then-Premier League champions Chelsea.

Summer of speculation

Talk of a move raged all summer, with a fee anywhere between £60m and £75m discussed, but no agreement was reached and Sandro remained at Juve as the 2017/18 campaign began. But the player who turned out in black and white was a shadow of his former self; he never came close to reaching his previous standards, and lacked the sharpness and drive that had made him such a force in previous seasons.

Sandro was regularly dropped by Max Allegri, who preferred to deploy Kwadwo Asamoah in a lot of important matches last term. But the Ghanaian surprisingly outperformed the Brazilian and fully deserved to get the nod. Sandro insisted he was “fully focused” on helping Juventus in a January interview with La Gazzetta dello Sport, but there was little doubt that his attention was elsewhere.

Mistakes he never made, like hesitating in possession or misplacing passes, suddenly became regular occurrences. Disastrously, he played Cristiano Ronaldo onside in the latter stages of the two sides' Champions League quarter-final tie and was subsequently beaten in the air by the Portuguese superstar – a sequence which directly led to Real Madrid’s last-minute penalty.

Alarming slide

Compared to last term, Sandro has made fewer tackles, interceptions, clearances and blocks per 90 minutes, created markedly fewer scoring chances (just 25 against 50 in 2016/17 when he played only 285 more minutes of action), and completed fewer take-ons.

It has been a remarkable dip. Yet that hasn't stopped Manchester United from reportedly making a move for him, with one notable Italian outlet insisting that a deal has already been agreed.

According to Turin-based newspaper La Stampa – which has strong ties to the Agnelli family who own Juventus – a fee of €50m will see Sandro head to Old Trafford, although an announcement won't be made until after the FA Cup final. Matteo Darmian could potentially head in the opposite direction, but either way it seems United and Jose Mourinho won't be deterred by one poor season, and will look to reinvigorate the 27-year-old this summer.
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Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...d-despite-a-year-struggle#mEtAu4KbfG0HoYBD.99
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
This might prove an interesting read for those of you who haven't seen him play often.




Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...d-despite-a-year-struggle#mEtAu4KbfG0HoYBD.99
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For some reason I'm finding it hard to warm to this signing. Don't get me wrong, he's an obvious improvement on our existing options at LB, but I feel there are question marks over his form heading into this season and I fear the Alex Sandro we'd end up with would be functional at best, if not stylish. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself there and functional at best suits our purposes for now...
 
Take it from a Juve fan who hasn't missed a game in over 10 years.
If you get the 2015-16 or 2016-17 Sandro, he is among the best left backs in the world, maybe less glitzy than Marcelo, but equally effective and faster and stronger (and a few years younger) so much better while defending.
If you get his twin brother, the one who played last season at his place, then he is an average left back, who was outperformed by a mediocre player like Asamoah.
I don't believe someone in his prime (he is 27) can regress this much in a few months, in the same team, same league, same city, same manager. That costed him a WC spot in the Brazilian team as well. It is really mysterious.
Latest rumor is that he decided to stay and get a new contract with us. I just hope the decision came from the twin brother who played in the 2015-16 and 16-17 seasons.
 
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JuveNYC said:
Take it from a Juve fan who hasn't missed a game in over 10 years.
If you get the 2015-16 or 2016-17 Sandro, he is among the best left backs in the world, maybe less glitzy than Marcelo, but equally effective and faster and stronger (and a few years younger) so much better while defending.
If you get his twin brother, the one who played last season at his place, then he is an average left back, who was outperformed by a mediocre player like Asamoah.
I don't believe someone in his prime (he is 27) can regress this much in a few months, in the same team, same league, same city, same manager. That costed him a WC spot in the Brazilian team as well. It is really mysterious.
Latest rumor is that he decided to stay and get a new contract with us. I just hope the decision came from the twin brother who played in the 2015-16 and 16-17 seasons.
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You can have his twin brother who played this year and we will take his other brother playing the other seasons, cheers mate.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
It's not that. We're probably not going to challenge this year. If I'm 27 years old I want to be winning league titles and hopefully a Champions League. To do both of those things while living in Europes best City, playing alongside Mbappe, while also being able to kick the sh1t out of neymar in training?... No brainer.
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Agreed on this.
The only thing we may be able to offer is more money and guaranteed starter as LB. At PSG, would he be an automatic starter or would he have competition for the starting place?
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I said 'only' 25 countries cos I supposed you'd been to them all. :) I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.

I prefer Prague, Berlin, Krakow, Kyiv, Odessa, Manchester, London, Barcelona, Istanbul, Riga, Amsterdam, Skopje, Frankfurt, Budapest and Vienna and I haven't been to Rome, Belgrade, Milan, Zagreb, Munich etc. If you include the world, I also prefer cities like Bangkok, Manila, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Tokyo, Shanghai, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires and Bogotá by far.

Back on topic.. You guys reckon Sandro is staying at Juve, or is he Mourinho 'secret' that Ibra referred to?
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You prefer ... Manila over Paris? I hope you're joking, mate. I mean, there are opinions and all ... But that right there is something else. Worst city I've been to, by far. And I'm not talking about the architecture here. Likely one of the worst 10 cities in the world. And you prefer it over ... PARIS! Words fail me.

Oh, and I don't think we're signing Sandro (<-- on-topic alibi)
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I said 'only' 25 countries cos I supposed you'd been to them all. :) I've only been to Paris for 10 days, but the people are always the most important thing to me when travelling and the Parisians are cnuts.

I prefer Prague, Berlin, Krakow, Kyiv, Odessa, Manchester, London, Barcelona, Istanbul, Riga, Amsterdam, Skopje, Frankfurt, Budapest and Vienna and I haven't been to Rome, Belgrade, Milan, Zagreb, Munich etc. If you include the world, I also prefer cities like Bangkok, Manila, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Tokyo, Shanghai, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires and Bogotá by far.

Back on topic.. You guys reckon Sandro is staying at Juve, or is he Mourinho 'secret' that Ibra referred to?
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A guy in Paris working at a hotel gave me Nutella.
Paris 1 - Manchester 0
 
It’s a shame. I was looking forward to seeing him play those two games for us before the Cafe decided he was a pile of steaming garbage.
 
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