They actually strike me as the kind of players we used to target back when we were top dogs. I'd be confident they would do very well for us under Fergie.
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They actually strike me as the kind of players we used to target back when we were top dogs. I'd be confident they would do very well for us under Fergie.
Eh?
Besides Kleberson, I can’t recall many players we signed on the back of World Cup performances.
It’s not something I’d want the club to do also. Granted if they been good with their club too then yeah go for them.
Lozano was very good for PSV this last season. Can play on both the left and right. But sadly can't see Jose going for someone like him if he has problems with Martial.
Rio Ferdinand ?
Poborsky. OK that might have been Euros but same concept. Its rarely a good idea
Could prove to be the next Kovacic probably. A 25m price tag is a bargain.
We were after a centre back anyway because we stupidly sold Stam and replaced him with Blanc. I don’t think we signed Rio just because of the World Cup. His price certainly went up because of it.
But Fergie was tracking him from his West Ham days. Leeds being in a shitty financial situation helped us out.
Just like I don’t think we signed Rooney off the back of Euro 2004.
I meant in regards to their age range, potential and them not being "big names." Similar to the likes of Ji Sung Park, Evra, Vidic and Chicharito in regards to the stages of their career, some of them looked stellar in Champions League games (Evra and Park) plus we luckily nabbed Hernande before he had a great World Cup showing, and we then gave them all the opportuinity to take that next step up.
Lozano for sure will go on to be very successful imo and Golovin would be a risk worth taking for the price but admittedly his world cup performances might be making him look better than he is, he has all of the raw capabilities to be a very good midfielder though for sure.
To be fair, Golovin was linked with the likes of Arsenal and Juventus even before the World Cup. He is not a surprise new name — rather than a young prodigy that is proving his level at the World Cup (the same is true for Lozano to an extent). A bit like Chicharito
Yeah I agree. Fergie even said that we were going to bid the following summer in 2005 but Newcastle forced our hand by bidding and Everton rejecting the bid. (Remember when Newcastle were our competition in the transfer market?).
Also explains the oddness of signing Alan Smith and then Rooney when Van Nistlerooy was always going to start.
Anyway Golovins name has come up a few times prior to the WC, Juve must be horrifed that he is having a good tournament considering they nearly had a deal agreed for him according to some reports.
Didn't Jose Go to a Russia Game before the World cup ? ( I think I read that somewhere but could be wrong) this guy has been on a few radars . Could be a real Player same as the Mexican dude but he has definitely been on Radars across Europe . I personally would like a player like him .
hmmmmm. I wondered why that Dyzuba looked good as well - avoid!
We were linked with Lozano before he moved to PSV, if I remember correctly. And he had a very good season as someone else alluded to. If we were to be interested, it wouldn't simply be because of the world cup. Although, I do agree with your general point.
small sample size
True and more importantly it feels that it's intentional.
Otherwise why not increase the sample by simply including the last World Cup and Euros. These "distance covered" measurement have been standard practice for over a decade now.
EDIT: Also isn't the bottom observation, Colombia, also technically outside of the 1 st.dev from mean? But intentionally blanked out?
They played with 10 menEDIT: Also isn't the bottom observation, Colombia, also technically outside of the 1 st.dev from mean? But intentionally blanked out?
Yeah, what a shame that the World Cup doesn't have doping tests...
Golovin had the most ground covered from all of the players of the CL group stage. Another tournament without any doping control apparently
A further breakdown of the sprint speeds....
And last World Cup for ref...
And last World Cup for ref...
All those stats and the two rounds so far show me that Argentinians are a bunch of lazy cnuts. Messi being the laziest of all players in the world cup.
He looks a great player, if Juve snap him up for the reported £20 million in addition to Emre Can on a free, they are taking the mick in the transfer market again. Astute signings for reasonable fees/free with their best years ahead of them and a high sell on.
I'd take Golovin as an option for under £35m (we'd have to pay more). That is a reasonable fee these days for a very good first team squad midfielder who gives us something different.
I'd take Golovin as an option for under £35m (we'd have to pay more). That is a reasonable fee these days for a very good first team squad midfielder who gives us something different.
Looks a good player but not someone I'm disappointed to not have been in for, if you like.
Bebe off the back of his performances at the Homeless World Cup?
Even if there was, after watching icarus, those pesky russians would find a way!
Doping control rarely catches athletes. It generally whistle blowers, hackers etc. The same way Russia have been exposed and have sought to expose others in the past.
Golovin seems quite versatile and has potential to develop.
He could conceivably provide cover, if required, for any of our midfield 3 and at #10 if need be.
He’s young enough to probably accept a rotational role, at least initially, and would still get plenty of games.
In a year or two he might emerge as World Class in one of the roles - preferably Matic or #10 should we continue with such a role.
Even as an impact player he could be key to unlocking stubborn defences late on in games.
He could conceivably provide cover, if required, for any of our midfield 3 and at #10 if need be.
He’s young enough to probably accept a rotational role, at least initially, and would still get plenty of games.
In a year or two he might emerge as World Class in one of the roles - preferably Matic or #10 should we continue with such a role.
Even as an impact player he could be key to unlocking stubborn defences late on in games.
Yeah, I think if I am not mistaken Lazio want at least around £100m - £130m for Savic! Even in today's market, for that price I would like someone a bit more proven.
However, if Mourinho believes Savic is the player he wants and the board are willing to sanction the deal then I am all for it. Issue is, not sure how that will affect our transfer budget when it comes to signing players in more problem positions...
Rather sign a Bale for that price, even with his age and injury record.
Pretty sure playing infront of your home crowd is motivation to chase every last ball and work harder. If the WC came to England you bet the players would work their socks off or be slaughtered
Whilst I agree there is actual statistical evidence to suggest when WCs are played in their home country, that team will over perform, this is quite a step up. It's not a small bump in performance.
It seems like 25 M is the asking price, I would happily take him for that price.Instead of looking to sign player like Savic where already have Pogba plus the new signing Fred its sensible to sign player like Golovin,he can be next big thing and the price we spend on him would is too little in the today market condition.
Australia, suspiciously high in all these rankings.
History of this stuff with swimmers etc.
History of this stuff with swimmers etc.
In Italy they claim that Juve is quite close. He looks like a good player, but Russians are extremely risky purchases, cannot remember one having succeeded outside Russia
Mostovoi, Karpin, Kanchelskis
Golovin isn't starting today. Any idea why?
Possibly just resting him since they are already through.
Rest, as Russia is already in the 1/8, and it's not even a given that the 1st place is better than the second (that depends on Spain's and Portugal's games later). Mario Fernandes and Zhirkov (although he had some health issues) are on the bench as well. I'm pretty sure that Golovin with Fernandes covered the most ground in the first 2 games.
Arshavin i'd add to.
Perhaps, I personally don't count his spell in Arsenal as a failure but I know many who does, so decided to exclude him.
Had a few very good big game performances for them — against Barca and, of course, 4 goals past Liverpool
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Perhaps, I personally don't count his spell in Arsenal as a failure but I know many who does, so decided to exclude him.
Had a few very good big game performances for them — against Barca and, of course, 4 goals past Liverpool
He was very good I thought, not counting his last season in which he clearly couldn't be bothered at that point.