Poster expresses it well. Garnacho especially, and even though I gave up on Rashford quite a while back, I will remember some peak performances
Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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L'Equipe piece suggests a possible game of musical chairs in the final days of the window with Garnacho to Chelsea, Nkunku to Bayern, and Tel to the Premier League (possibly United).
I'd say United would end up with the worst player of the three clubs in that deal, but they'd also bank the most money, which might suit the club.
I don't want to sell him, but for £80m, that would let us invest in 4 top players in the summer, as its mostly pure profit.
It would certainly help fast-track the overhaul.
It would certainly help fast-track the overhaul.
Not sure you can buy a top player for £20m. Yes, we'd generate a bit of PSR overhead, but we'd still be relatively cash poor. It would obviously help our financial position, but we wouldn't be able to spend like drunken sailors.
I meant spreading the costs of the new players over 4/5 years.
It would need to be £80m minimum to sell him this late in the window without time to get a replacement.
I hope we don't sell , but if we do we would crazy to take anything less 80 Million. There is still bags of potential there for him to become world class and we could end up looking very silly letting him off for anything other than a huge transfer fee.
What figure do people feel would be too much to turn down in our financial situation. I don't want to sell him either but just interested.
£80 million and I sell, not only helps PSR, but would allow us to go after several targets in the summer, it wouldn’t be great to lose him, but I don’t think he suits the system.
Nacho out, Tel in on loan please.
Then check in on Gyokeres in the summer
If we got £80m for Garnacho I honestly don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that we offer Sporting £80m for Gyokeres this window.
I think we'll pick him up for £60-65m in the summer.
I think he'll go to a club in the Champions League.
Possibly. Though I'm confident we can attract him ahead of many Champions League clubs.
We better go all out to win Europa then
Don’t think it’s Boehly anymore, they have a revolving CEO thing going on
Selling him this late in the window seems daft unless it’s a hefty hefty offer. We’re far too limited in attack already. I also wouldn’t expect Tel for example to come in and offer what Garnacho can right away.
Garnacho for Gyokeres would be an incredible upgrade for our team, regardless of age difference
They can swivel, whoever it is!
Except we would need to spend now to have enough forwards to play the second half of the season.
Unless we reintegrate Rubens favorite player.
Gyökeres will be in high demand - can't see him moving to a bottom half club. If we need to replace Garnacho we will be shopping a grade or two down from Gyökeres.
True, though we'd still be a bit thin if anyone gets injured.
This isn't happening lads.
Definitely his brother
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I'd take it.
I’ve said from the very beginning anything under £70m is crazy for us to accept. I’m thinking of that as a minimum. Considering how late in the January window it is, I’d hope for more.
I ultimately want to keep him, but I understand our financial predicament.
It better not be.
Ye of course he wouldn’t leave sporting to join Man United. Just like Amorim wouldn’t leave to join a bottom half club even after being unbeaten at sporting all season and top of the league.
Feel like he will want to go to a CL club though but don't think we are completely out of it.
Can’t let him go without anyone coming in surely? We’re short in attack as it is… that would be Rashford and Garnacho. Garnacho is the only player with Amad that’s willing to take players on.
Definitely his brother
As long as whoever coughs up the cash, its all good. If that doesn't happen, he will start on Sunday.
Good point. Think it will be a 2 horse race between us and Arsenal. I fancy us to win the Europa and get back into the CL but even without it next season, I think Amorim will be key and he may choose to join purely because of him.
I wonder how memories of Rashford, but also many of our recent inconsistent performers (or the what-could-have-beens), would have shaped if he did leave earlier, let alone after one of his now infamous peak seasons.
If Pogba left right after that string of 8 games after (before?) the Covid break. If Martial left 2021, let alone 2017 or something. Garnacho still has his youth and his relatively recent exciting games (or at least memorable moments) going for him. If he leaves now the board is a failure for letting their diamonds go... yet if it turns out to be another trajectory like the aforementioned, Garnacho will end up being the next "what's wrong with this club"
That's why I prefer efootball (or whatever you play/are used to). Your imagined fulfilled potential is much more accessible (except for that often weird positions/attributes they are assigned by the programmers. If I want an escapism, the dream is more out of this world. Then again, without the here there is no there. Besides, I am here and not there or another else anywhere.
I love these unanswerable questions and pretending I have an answer.
But now I will just add another, maybe more answerable one.
To what degree is Garnacho a Utd kid, and to what degree an Atleti one, to you? Or is there no percentage and is he just kinda, and more or less, both?
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EDIT: Typing this out made me think of critique on players showing African flags when France won the world cup and their (or was that Trevor Noah?) - in my opinion very fair - response that it isn't about choosing one over the other, not at all. They are both.
National teams makes it feel like a nationality is a natural thing, and there's only one real one. Either through birth, heritage, a long stay, shared cultural expression or other subjective but objectified categories. Borders are drawn, and areas like US states, African postcolonial and neocolonial countries, much of the Middle East show through very very (very) straight lines that borders are drawn, and if it weren't for walls, fences, governments and text messages saying "welcome to Blablalonia" you'd need Google Maps and a good connection (+GPS) to know whether you crossed something. Then the initially more subjective experiences of histories, memories, stories more visible than others, and feelings somehow are the most tangible things we have. Koulibaly may be born in France, but many of his stories, imagined, heard, absorbed and/or experienced make him suitable to the Senegalese identity. Not to start about people like the more patriotic Catalunyans playing for Spain. Basques, etc.
I feel like my comment isn't really about football or Garnacho anymore. Somehow... Also I lost my thread.
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I would bet the future of the planet on neither of these things happening
£120 million for Chelsea
Selling him now without a replacement to come into the first team already signed strikes me as particularly self defeating.
Even by our low standards.
Even by our low standards.
With Tel’s price being 60m, the same for Garnacho is laughable.
Yen?
All good, though. Long but entertaining