Watching Chelsea today, he would do well on that left side for them, with Sancho moving to the right possibly.
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Sancho on the right, yeah sure
Right side of the bench maybe
INEOS will brain dead if selling him to Chelsea and addition another injury prone player from Chelsea would be the same disaster level of Glazer
Maybe.
Yeah we need that debt cleared, however have doubts Ratcliffe would do it even with majority ownership.
I'm not a Garnacho guy but if it puts Madueke on the bench then pay whatever it takes
I didn’t watch the game but that seems harsh seeing as he scored your only goal. I also don’t watch much of Chelsea but it feels like he scores most out of the wide men you have at the club.
His overall performance is poor, he did score a tap in but he almost killed every Chelsea attack. Garnacho is so much more direct, he would take Chelsea up another level.
I found that photo pretty cringe, we just finished 8th and these dudes were posing like they were future legends becaus of an fa cp win where only garnacho did something if I remember correctly and the fans were saying these guys are the future of man utd.
We're in big big trouble if that were the case
The pic was taken at OT against West Ham. Hojlund scored first (was on a goalscoring run), Garnacho 2nd and 3rd while Mainoo scored ridiculous goal just few days earlier against the Wolves in the last seconds of the game to win it. And of course it was a brilliant picture that everyone loved. Btw the picture itself, and at first, was more about taking the piss of Mohammed Kudos who celebrated the same way earlier in the season when West Ham came on top.
Speaking of FA Cup win which you mentioned, two players from that same picture also became first two teenagers to score in the FA Cup final (against City, no less), so I don't quite understand the mocking and you got everything completely wrong.
Personally, don't get this need to put down all our players, especially younger ones. Even if you think Garnacho won't become world class player and he should be sold for a big fee to help us rebuild (argument that I can at least somewhat understand) it would still leave very sour taste. Especially as it is impossible to be certain that the club will use those funds in the right way.
Well probably get hoodwinked into taking Sancho back!!
Come on Chelsea, dig deep - you know you need a decent LW.
Clearly we need to sell a player and Rashford/Casemiro would rather take home their wages and see us sell a younger than force a move. Depressing stuff.
Clearly we need to sell a player and Rashford/Casemiro would rather take home their wages and see us sell a younger than force a move. Depressing stuff.
Selling one of our best talents to one of our rivals it’s not the united way anymore. The local fans in manchester should start to protest again. This whole ineos ownership is a completly mess.
Take it easy buddy, I wasn't mocking them I didn't call them any names just found it funny how people got carried away and I said if I remember correctly, I didn't claim to state any facts. There's no doubt both Mainoo and garnacho had a good season, Hojlund showed glimpses of being good but the way our fans hyped these guys up was overkill. City players were hangover that final and we raised our game as we always do in the big games. In the aftermath these same people thought ten hag was the second coming of SAF
It's not about mocking our youth, personally I need a larger sample size to make judgements on a players ceiling rather than a purple patch of good form which most talented players are capable of going through before hailing them as the next class of 92 which is what a lot of united fans are desperately looking for when a promising youth player comes through the academy and then ignore the flaws and limitations of such player because they think we're some how some super God given club who breeds through world class players from the academy every other season.
He is awful. Allowed the first goal by being behind the whole defensive line, did absolutely nothing to pin Gvardiol back because he refused to take him on or provide any threat in behind.
The goal he scored was not reflective of his performance. His effort was unacceptable as has been the case for most of the season.
Garnacho , Ugarte , Amad , Mazraoui , Yoro , De Lit are only players I won’t sell . Why sell our best player who’s 20 years old and has 37 goals and assists !
Am easy, I just wanted to point out that picture was taken in a completely different game and context, under much brighter circumstances. Even most reporters after the game jumped on it in a very positive light, so it wasn't just United fans.
It might not happen for three of them, but the picture rightly brings some fond memories, especially as two of them decided FA Cup final. And for me, it isn't quite normal that just 6 months later we have two of our most talented youngsters (along with Amad) in sale roumors if the right fee comes on the table. Maybe that says more about the deeper issues that still persist in the club then their quality.
Echo's my thoughts.
I'd keep Garnacho without question, I'd sooner sell Mainoo.
This feels like the start of a heavy decline where we struggle to attract top talent, are riddled with debt with the ffp constraints making us a selling club.
Sad times, but I'll be buckling up for the ride.
Does Garnacho actually fit the system? If he does and the manager wants to keep him, then yeah. Bad vibes.
But if the manager feels he doesnt have the attributes to play the new formation and the moneys good, I have no issue. Its hard to tell what is the truth.
My gut instinct is Garnacho is someone that doesnt quite fit and the money can be spent on someone more suitable.
But if the manager feels he doesnt have the attributes to play the new formation and the moneys good, I have no issue. Its hard to tell what is the truth.
My gut instinct is Garnacho is someone that doesnt quite fit and the money can be spent on someone more suitable.
Don’t think many would agree with this but I do.
Chelsea look abysmal on the wings, Garnacho would instantly be their best winger.
Yep. And not particularly close either imo. Inconsistent but would fit them pretty well and give them an x factor that they don't have.
Milk them then!
So do Chelsea rate Garnacho higher than Neto then?
There have been a few options that many feel are better in Garnacho's role. If we get huge money, then I'm fine with that.
He's the same ilk as those versions of Martial and Rashford we should have sold all those years back. People just like to assume age means talent progression. He's a merely decent prospect. It's just the sentiment aspect. If we really need to sell him we can do so ten times over and sleep well.
I don’t think we need to sell Garnacho in order to sign left wingback because we already placed £25m bid to Dorgu before we even sell Garnacho so that means we already have £25m to sign left wingback.
Rashford and especially Martial had higher potential. That doesn't mean that Garnacho won't go on to be a better player than either of them (or at least more consistent), but I would have been much more disappointed in selling them than I would with Garnacho. I don't actively want to sell him, but if we get a good enough offer and we then use that money to reinvest back into the team then so be it.
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Knickers in a twist just because someone disagrees with you. How adoreable.
The thing with both Martial and Rashford is that their progression and careers would have been much different and much better if they developed in stable clubs who knew what they were doing. Rashford has had a very good career here for what it's worth, despite the past 2 years. You want to keep talents like that when they're young especially because you hope we will sort out our shit, one day.
Who's going to buy them?
It's all well and good saying sell them, but how can you if no-one wants them?
Unfortunately (assuming he doesn’t quite fit with the formation) he’s sort of a sacrificial lamb of sorts. The club’s in a right mess financially, & the ones we really should be selling (Casemiro, Rashford, Antony etc), either cost an absurd amount or are on exorbitant wages - probably both for some, so we’re unable to find a buy - especially without negative PSR consequences.
The likes of our youth are the only ones who you can consider have been performing relative to their wage/value anyway - I mean if all of us know this as fact, you can bet your bottom dollar every other club director out there knows this. Kind of similar in why McTominay was one of the only ones we could sell for a decent amount this summer gone by.
I don’t mind selling Garnacho for a good fee, but not within the league, unless a silly offer (circa £80m) comes in, as we’re seemingly valuing him at around £60m to Napoli. Anyhow, sad, but this is what decades of incompetence and mismanagement have resulted in. Tough decisions needs to be made to rebuild (yet again), or we’ll be stuck with the current squad/malaise for a good few years if we want to go the organic route without drastic action(s).
To top it all off, we’ve also gone in another different direction with the manager/formation etc. Adds that little extra bit of complication to it all.
The likes of our youth are the only ones who you can consider have been performing relative to their wage/value anyway - I mean if all of us know this as fact, you can bet your bottom dollar every other club director out there knows this. Kind of similar in why McTominay was one of the only ones we could sell for a decent amount this summer gone by.
I don’t mind selling Garnacho for a good fee, but not within the league, unless a silly offer (circa £80m) comes in, as we’re seemingly valuing him at around £60m to Napoli. Anyhow, sad, but this is what decades of incompetence and mismanagement have resulted in. Tough decisions needs to be made to rebuild (yet again), or we’ll be stuck with the current squad/malaise for a good few years if we want to go the organic route without drastic action(s).
To top it all off, we’ve also gone in another different direction with the manager/formation etc. Adds that little extra bit of complication to it all.
You haven’t even given a reason for your disagreement
just a bunch of single lines that say nothing. Come back when you have a valid opinion that you can back up.I bet he actually won't go anywhere. Atleast not this window.
Hopefully you are right, however when Ornstein starts talking then I start listening. Chelsea fans really aren't keen if their fan channel is anything to go by.
You have to wonder why we sanctioned moves for the likes of Zirkzee if we are this close to breaking ffp rules. 36m fee plus 7 months of wages is a massive chunk of money that would have helped in not having to sell our best players
I thought this new lot coming in would be good for the club but it’s looking like a farce as per usual
I thought this new lot coming in would be good for the club but it’s looking like a farce as per usual
Nice fans warned us about Jim's false promises. Let's see if they were right.
I will never get the Zirkzee move when we desperately needed a proven striker last summer
If he starts tonight then it’s quite clear Amorim wants him to stay. The only reason we’d entertain the idea of selling him because he’s the only player we have that we can make profit on.