Poor first half (probably our worst player in that period) where he couldn't go past anyone once. Second half was better clearly but ultimately nothing to show for and as many times before - he took many shots. Couldn't hit a target once this time, though Forest players were blocking everything.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 51
- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 9
- Yellow cards
- 3
He is really not talented enough however you look at it. He runs a lot, has a good first touch, but that's about it. His dribbling is really poor, his passing is average, he is weak in duel, and his shooting is really bad. If it wasn't a good first touch, his technical abilities would be very doubtful. He is also lacking any brain whatsoever.
Actually convinced that he's playing in a way to frustrate the club so we'll get rid of him.
Well Onana is in goal, you may be right!
The cut in and either sky it or hit oppo's shins is getting very old
Forest and Yates in particular made a lot of good blocks but they did also make a lot of easy ones where Garnacho just rattled the ball into their legs.
I began to question it he understood the basics physics of what happens when you knock a solid into another solid. He seemed to think their legs would suddenly disappear.
Cant be, he misses the target more often than he hits the target.
And yeah I know you are joking.
Yeah a poor game for sure, an incredibly frustrating player at times. Can't be starting for us next season with the way he's playing at the moment.
Sell to Napoli and use every penny to sign Kevin from Shakhtar.
He simply can’t be starting, but he’ll definitely be expecting to start and will kick up a fuss if he’s anything less. The team needs somebody with pace so we’re not reliant on him, but hopefully said player has a bit of technical ability and IQ to go with it.
Should have sold him to Napoli.
I’d say his passing is far worse than average honestly.
The only redeeming quality he really has is that he doesn’t lose confidence and actually has solid instincts positionally in the final third. But everything else is bang average to flat out terrible.
Hopefully has the goodness in him to send new shin guards to the Forest players.
I actually think the most annoying moment was when he had the defender 1v1 inside the area and it got blocked out for a corner.
Really talented attackers are able to feint and shift the ball quickly to get a clean shot away there. Your average defender shouldn't be getting a block in. These are the sort of situations your wingers dream to have and it should have goal written all over it.
That aside, just absolutely dreadful. Very little football intelligence, greedy and poor shooting.
Really talented attackers are able to feint and shift the ball quickly to get a clean shot away there. Your average defender shouldn't be getting a block in. These are the sort of situations your wingers dream to have and it should have goal written all over it.
That aside, just absolutely dreadful. Very little football intelligence, greedy and poor shooting.
He's using us to practice his skills to get better.
He's crap.
50m is daylight robbery.
50m is daylight robbery.
His decision making is one of the worst I've seen in a so called world class talent. Rarely looks up and shoots from all kinds of angles, making most shots go wayward.
I think that’s one of the two positive aspects to his game. He doesn’t give up and keeps on running at them, and he is one of our quicker players.
I think my hope each game is that his presence will cause enough nuisance to the opposition that it will give openings to someone else to come up with something. He’s too wasteful to come up with something regularly but if he could attract the attention he does, and then slip the ball to a free man, we’d probably do ok and he’d actually be effective. Unfortunately he attracts attention but rarely passes and just gives it away constantly.
If he had half a brain he’d be mixing it up more to keep the opponent guessing and thus meaning they can’t swarm him as much. But because he’s got such tunnel vision, they can commit numbers to block him because they know there’s little chance he’ll look up and pick out somebody that they’ve left behind to close him down.
Agree with that. I'd probably add stamina as well. Usually becomes more involved in the last 20mins.
Yeah he can be really frustrating with his constant shooting and decision making in general. You'd think he'll work on it and improve massively over next few years but wouldn't be that surprised if we do sell him this summer for the right fee.
I don’t think anyone has seriously called him world class
We should have signed Olise as soon as he scored against us last season.
Players like Garnacho haven’t earned a guaranteed starting role.
Players like Garnacho haven’t earned a guaranteed starting role.
Shocking decision making and it's not as if he's fresh into the team. I wouldn't necessarily sell him in the summer but if crazy money is offered we should take it.
Still doing his best Antony impression (cutting inside and shooting it at every opportunity).
You've still got some people talking about getting 50 million for this lad haha. No sane club will pay that anymore, I'm sure Napoli have come to their senses now as well. There are just too many holes in his game, and i don't think I've ever seen a player have such a huge ego in comparison to his ability. Very frustrating to watch.
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Early-Zirkzee-level shite performance
Every player has stinkers you can excuse him for that but his dribbling for a wide player is just shocking.
Those who were up in arms when the story of him maybe being sold first surfaced, I’d be genuinely interested if it’s still the case or have they finally seen the light and realised he’s actually pretty shit and the amount of attacks he messes up is quite frankly unforgivable
He made spectacularly poor choices as he often does - ignoring overlaps or cutbacks, shooting from impossible angles, lacking guile and composure and blindly taking shots while ignoring better placed teammates/passes. It was extremely frustrating to see him waste attack after attack.
All that said, I wouldn't write him off at all. With Zirkzee being slow, Bruno pulling the strings, and Dalot being poor - he was effectively our only outlet, and it was clear the pressure was weighing heavily on his mind - he probably blamed himself for the goal the whole game and was trying to correct his wrongs. The stupid yellow where he kicked it away was pure pressure. He's trying so hard to force things, expecting unrealistically high things of himself and spiralling into more frustration when things didn't work out. The ignoring of overlaps was because he was tunnel visioned in this pressure today and reverted back to baser instincts developed in a United career where he usually never has that option. There were previous games where he was more composed and less hot-headed - he can find those cutbacks and quick movements if he wants to. He has the skill to be a better team player (though the finishing still remains a question).
I think performances like these are growing pains, he needs Amorim to calm him down and coach him, and he needs to learn from such games. Trying so hard to force things is often counter-productive, the positive is that he never stopped trying, and he definitely didn't do a Rashford/Sancho and shirk away from responsibility or disappear in the game. If you saw him fail all the time, it was because he was trying all the time. I think there's still hope there. If he's in a mental space where he's confident and enjoying his game rather than succumbing to the pressure, we might see a much more exciting player (we have seen glimpses already).
Or maybe it falls apart instead, and he gets only worse from here if he refuses to change and loses faith in the process or starts blaming others. I don't envy Amorim's position right now - but good coaching might polish this frustrating raw talent into something very valuable.
All that said, I wouldn't write him off at all. With Zirkzee being slow, Bruno pulling the strings, and Dalot being poor - he was effectively our only outlet, and it was clear the pressure was weighing heavily on his mind - he probably blamed himself for the goal the whole game and was trying to correct his wrongs. The stupid yellow where he kicked it away was pure pressure. He's trying so hard to force things, expecting unrealistically high things of himself and spiralling into more frustration when things didn't work out. The ignoring of overlaps was because he was tunnel visioned in this pressure today and reverted back to baser instincts developed in a United career where he usually never has that option. There were previous games where he was more composed and less hot-headed - he can find those cutbacks and quick movements if he wants to. He has the skill to be a better team player (though the finishing still remains a question).
I think performances like these are growing pains, he needs Amorim to calm him down and coach him, and he needs to learn from such games. Trying so hard to force things is often counter-productive, the positive is that he never stopped trying, and he definitely didn't do a Rashford/Sancho and shirk away from responsibility or disappear in the game. If you saw him fail all the time, it was because he was trying all the time. I think there's still hope there. If he's in a mental space where he's confident and enjoying his game rather than succumbing to the pressure, we might see a much more exciting player (we have seen glimpses already).
Or maybe it falls apart instead, and he gets only worse from here if he refuses to change and loses faith in the process or starts blaming others. I don't envy Amorim's position right now - but good coaching might polish this frustrating raw talent into something very valuable.
Me.
I was originally 10/10 fuming
Now I’m like a 6/10 meh
In his defence, no one around him runs into space so he has little option other than to shoot
What you described is a player who really shouldn't be a starter for us. He should be 1st or ideally 2nd option off the bench.
Hopefully we can set it right this summer. Now whether he'll be happy to what that equates to in minutes, especially with the amount he's had in the past 3 years, is a different story.
You think when he shoots, he making good decisions?
As someone who is still a fan of him I think he needs a loan to a league that has space behind the defence like in the Serie A or Bundesliga.
This would help him constantly get behind the defence and actually improve his shooting on goal by getting more clear cut chances.
We can improve him by either improving his shooting or improving his decision making & unfortunately for him match by match his decision making shows no progress on the LW expecially comparison to the RW.
A loan is unlikely though but I think its the best for the players development or if he is happy to be a squad player rather than a starter. At the age of 20 he shouldn't be an automatic starter and if his ego can deal with it he needs to work out some weaknesses of his game by addressing them from working hard off the bench and training.
This would help him constantly get behind the defence and actually improve his shooting on goal by getting more clear cut chances.
We can improve him by either improving his shooting or improving his decision making & unfortunately for him match by match his decision making shows no progress on the LW expecially comparison to the RW.
A loan is unlikely though but I think its the best for the players development or if he is happy to be a squad player rather than a starter. At the age of 20 he shouldn't be an automatic starter and if his ego can deal with it he needs to work out some weaknesses of his game by addressing them from working hard off the bench and training.
Lots of people have seriously called him a world class talent
I agree, we shouldn't be relying on him as our starting XI goal threat. He would be a better player if we weren't.
But we are, and he isn't, and you can thank our money men for both.
Hoping he’s quickly moved on to the LW of a different team.
I don’t see it. He has had moments of sheer brilliance, but they are so few and far in between.
I think a lot of people were blinded by his first season, he's proven that he's not as good as a lot of people thought including himself, he can still be a very good player but not a world class level one IMO
Yeah. If we have a proper team, he'd be a great impact sub at this stage. It seems like he needs at least another 2 or 3 seasons before he matures and ready as a starter. But now, he's the only attacker that we expect to create and score goals (I consider Bruno as midfielder).
This should be expected when having young player on the team. That's why it's weird that so many fans ejaculate at the thought of having most players at young age, and expecting a 10 years good performance.
Most likely, the manager would be gone if he only buy young players to make up the team.
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