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That is a big lie based purely on goals. 06/07 is Ronaldo's best ever season in terms of all round play. That season, he was the bpitw; he was better than kaka who won the ballond'or based mainly on some big ucl goals; Messi was often injured (although fully fit, he was already the best). Rashford at any point wasn't even close.
It's just a feeling I have based on how often he gets himself in dangerous positions, how he never seems to get injured and his inevitable switch back to LW. Also, Hojlund is a very unselfish player who doesn't always look for goal, which is why I can't see him reaching the 30 goal mark anytime soon as he's currently playing alongside wingers who like to cut in and shoot.
They did very nearly get De Gea too, if not for a fax machine failure.
He was Atletico starting keeper and brought in for a club keeper record fee, and basically made no.1 from day one (bar a few months of bedding in competing with Lindegaard), nor a youngster who we developed. And after the fax thing he was more than happy to stay for years and won multiple PoTY for us, hardly comparable to CR who agitated for a move to Spain as early as 2006, and every summer thereafter until he left.
De Gea was getting pushed out at that point as well, to be fair, by Louis van Gaal. He found him wanting with ball playing, and De Gea was reluctant to follow his training philosophy for keepers, that they should train with the rest of the team a much higher percentage than De Gea had been used to.
No. You are basing it all on goals, but there are players all over Europe who score loads of goals each year and are not in the elite level best in the world bracket. Kevin Phillips scored 30 goals in the Premier League once and was never one of the best players in the world. Rashford is just a good - potentially very good - player who is not world class and has never been. There is nothing wrong with being very good and not elite. Ronaldo in 06/07 was just world class/elite and just about the most complete winger/wide forwards of a generation. All he added the next season was a dogged ruthlessness for scoring goals, but even so he still scored plenty in the 06/07 season too. You are overrating Rashford and underrating Ronaldo.
Person who makes laughable argument laughs at others. Comedy gold right here.
Pogba was from our academy so we were always going to have the advantage there. Garnacho's from Madrid and by all accounts grew up a Madrid fan, it'd be odd to ignore these factors when considering his future. The likelihood of him ending up good enough for Madrid to want him is remarkably low anyway. The De Gea situation wasn't similar in terms of forcing a move, but he was obviously very happy to go there.
The last decade or so has seen this absurd obsession with stats. As if all 30 goal seasons are equals whether it be from Maradona or Rashford.
He wasn’t top class. Top class is Salah, KDB, VVD and many more top players having their good seasons. Rashfords very best is several notches below.
It's not though.
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Exactly this. Is he a generational talent that could not be replaced? No. So there's really no issue as long as the club isn't naive and let's him run down his deal (and even then is it that bad if he's giving 100% for us and doing well?).
We’ve never ever had one and still might never have one, but Latin players are built different, so no we should at least be aware that it might exist and hopefully does not !
He would hardly have to be as good as 2008 Ronaldo. Baring in mind I did say 30 goals in all comps, not 30 PL goals. If Rashford could do it when playing LW for most of last season, why can't Garnacho kick on in a year or two and do the same?
Exactly - get me one of PL /CL and 41 goals a season I am willing to drive him to Madrid.
Yes, he would obviously have to be a far more superior footballer than he is now. I am banking on that as he is only 19 and is displaying the raw attributes of a player with a very high ceiling. We've already seen him make huge strides in the past few months - at the start of the season the narrative was that he was often ineffective when starting games and was better as an impact player off the bench. Whereas now he's become undroppable. I'm confident we'll see him continue to grow into a major talent.
Don't think so. Ronaldo wasn't some sort of playmaker, he was direct like Rashford. You are also ignoring the fact that we are now indirectly comparing prime SAF with ETH. Total absurdity. Ronaldo didn't just magically made the team better, he wasn't player-coach back then. Now if you put prime SAF in charge of us last season and put 06 Ronaldo in there, then the team would be significantly better, because they would be properly coached.
You don't think a player can elevate a team to be better? So, we wouldn't be a better team now if we added prime Messi and Zidane, even with ETH? Strange way of looking at it but fair enough. And Ronaldo wasn't direct like Rashford, he was direct and much better than him. And in no post have I compared SAF to ETH, so thanks for that strawman.
Yes, but not in the way you describe. Ronaldo's general play was the result of years of coaching, and it was just starting to get good. It would be strange to think he could play exactly the same way, or even better, in our team last year and without SAF's coaching.
Another strawman. I did not mention Ronaldo's style as similar to Messi or Zidane. I used them as an example of how player A being better than player B can make a team better, whether incrementally or significantly. I neither confirmed or denied that coaching would play a role in enhancing that increment or significant improvement further.
Then they are terrible examples that actually worsen your case. His style could not be any more different. Messi and Zidane are natural playmakers, so it is in their game to make those around them better. I can't believe it took three exchanges for you to understand this, and you still come up with an example that actually proves my point.
In 06/07 I'd say he was at least a year away from the physical transformation that made him truly dominant. He wasn't that good for Portugal yet. In fact, the World Cup that year would be a good indication of how he'd elevate a mediocre side like ours last season.
I actually think it doesn't make sense to expect 06 Ronaldo to play exactly the same way as he did under SAF who built the attack around him and Rooney. Either you expect players to be like AI where they bring their stats over to any team, or you think ETH can coach the team just like SAF did back then, with the fast tempo, passing triangles and patterns of play. I think it's delusion to think a 21 year old Ronaldo would make Antony and Weghorst better, at least without Fergie at the helm.
Interesting that he was always marked by 3 Costa Rica players whenever he got the ball. Right now he plays a bit tensed, he just needs his first goal to loosen up IMO.
Yeah, Antony did more when he came on and that’s saying a lot!
