Adnan Januzaj

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GM is right he's an attacking midfielder. Best in any of the '3' positions behind the striker in a 4231. I prefer him in the number 10 role but for the first team I think he'll play on the right or left and interchange with whoever is central. In an interview ge did say he can play in midfield as a number 8 but he isn't used there very often for both the U18s and U21s and I think it would take away from his attacking instincts as you really want him in and around the box as much as possible because he's a real threat with his link up play and penetrative passes seem to come easy to him, playing deeper would stifle that when its his best quality imo.

I am aware of his qualities, and I've been watching him for us every since he made his debut in the U18s, but all I am saying is how he perceives himself as a central midfielder, and that he obviously got the qualities to play there. We saw the likes of Dæhli, who most certainly is a central midfielder, being played on the wings and further up the pitch, simply because these sorts of players are so talented that they can play in other positions and still shine, whilst the lesser talented / versatile players play in their original positions. His best qualities are his intelligence and his ability to pick a pass, and I'm sure he'd be a great central midfielder if he got a chance there. The risk is alot smaller when being played out wide though, but I have no doubts that he could be played in CM after gaining a few seasons worth of experience. We all remember how Fletcher was used out wide in the beginning as well.
 
He's not going to get a game as number 10 for the next 2 years at least with Rooney and Giggs around so we better introduce him to another role (like we should do with Kagawa as well).
I don't think it matters that much because he drifts around anyway. Yesterday he found himself in central positions too. Our AMs are pretty flexible with the exception of Valencia.
 
I don't think it matters that much because he drifts around anyway. Yesterday he found himself in central positions too. Our AMs are pretty flexible with the exception of Valencia.


Yeah that's what you want and a great feature he brings, because he will drift or move as part of the attack then it forces other players to move as well, be it a run forward or a run outwide and I think it can add more variety to our attack. That's hopefully what we can get as well if we give Kagawa and Nani a run and let them have some freedom to drift.
 
Why because he never done a million and one step overs. The kid made a massive impression.. His awareness and as the commentators mentioned, balance was very advanced for his age. You can't judge him to Ronaldo because they are different types of players. If we can rave about Barkley i don't see why we can't rave about Januzaj.

Stop being daft....I said I'm excited by him but his debut wasn't as exciting as Ronaldo's, not that he didn't make an impression. I'm not judging him as a player in comparison to Cristiano, you are making assumptions. Perhaps my view is influenced by the fact I've already seen Januzaj play, I had never seen Ronaldo before his debut, and it was stunning.

Nobody said you can't rave about him did they? Just don't jump on people when they aren't quite as hysterical about him as yourself.
 
I don't think it matters that much because he drifts around anyway. Yesterday he found himself in central positions too. Our AMs are pretty flexible with the exception of Valencia.
I hope we switch more to a system in which wingers are basically advanced playmakers put out wide, occasionally we could do with a classic hugging-the-line winger like Valencia but I'd prefer us to have a more flexible set-up (like Dortmund's with Götze, Reus and Błaszczykowski last year, Kuba is the only true winger they played with).
 
Well, I know he's been playing mostly in attacking positions for a few years now, but I swear he himself said that he is a central midfielder. He did play a few of his first academy-games in CM as well if I remember correctly. And as Ramshock said, he could probably play anywhere.

I said it a couple months back that he could play in a CM role but I think it would really limit his attacking game and take away from his best position. He's very creative and whilst he could be creative from a CM role, he's much better further up the field and we wouldn't want an Anderson situation to happen with him.
 
I think he'd be wasted in central midfield, particularly until we change how the wide players play to get them mixing it up more with some inside runs. He's got such good technique, willingess to carry the ball and intelligence that you want him high up the pitch, you don't want him to be a deep player in attack trying to break forward or having to do a lot of tracking back. I think he'll be best anywhere off the striker be it wide or as a number ten/am
 
A CM that can carry the ball like him is a valuable and rare asset nowadays.

Yeah but an AM who can make the final killer ball is an even greater asset. Despite what people think of Anderson, he's very able to drive the ball forward from CM.
 
Januzaj made 20 passes (90% success rate) in just 23 minutes on the pitch yesterday and Young made 26 passes (81% success rate) in 67minutes. Just shows how involved he is.
 
Januzaj made 20 passes (90% success rate) in just 23 minutes on the pitch yesterday and Young made 26 passes (81% success rate) in 67minutes. Just shows how involved he is.

Where you get the stats from?
 
Januzaj made 20 passes (90% success rate) in just 23 minutes on the pitch yesterday and Young made 26 passes (81% success rate) in 67minutes. Just shows how involved he is.


Yes, but we significantly upped our collective game right before Januzaj came on, more specfically, when Fellaini entered the fray.

Not to take anything away from Adnan's impressive showing, but his introduction coincided with our best spell of the entire game.
 
Where you get the stats from?
Whoscored.com
Yes, but we significantly upped our collective game right before Januzaj came on, more specfically, when Fellaini entered the fray.

Not to take anything away from Adnan's impressive showing, but his introduction coincided with our best spell of the entire game.
I think he had a part to play in that though.
 
Yes, but we significantly upped our collective game right before Januzaj came on, more specfically, when Fellaini entered the fray.

Not to take anything away from Adnan's impressive showing, but his introduction coincided with our best spell of the entire game.


Do you not think he had anything to do with that with his actual willingness to run at people and make something happen? I'll give you it could be Palace running out of the energy to keep up their organization with ten men, but certainly wouldn't say everybody else happened to up their game just as he came on. RVP and Rooney got in the game because he came on and opened up new options for the team.
 
I don't think video does a whole lot to quash fears that he lacks just a little bit of pace to beat a man with ease.
 
Its difficult to say how far a youngster well go but I just love his poise and balance. Those things already mark him as a special talent IMO. That and the way he simply glides around on the pitch doing whatever he wants :drool:
 
There's no guarantee of anything. He could suffer a career-ending injury in training; he could start drinking; he could sign for City. But it is clear from yesterday's game, along with the pre-season, that he's a serious talent, about whom we should be very excited.


I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me... but yeah, I'm as excited as the next person about him. I'm just cautious too. There have been many very talented youngsters who haven't made the grade at big clubs for one reason or another.
 
It's quite obvious that he is an amazing talent and if we give him the trust and playing time we afforded Ronnie early on in his career with us he will reward us for it by becoming one of our best players really fast.
 
Just had to bump this classic, by way of checking... did we ever get him that contract / chain him up?

That post was made in a particular context - a media report that DM wanted to send Januzaj to the Championship on loan. It would have been foolish to accept such an offer. Surely yesterday showed he's already far above that level?

So I was right. As, indeed, I usually am. :cool:
 
Will, you were absolutely wrong in what you said.
 
Very undiplomatic, yes. Wrong in being offensive to the sensibilities of Caftards, yes. Factually wrong, no.

I hate puns. Next time I'll choose a username that's absolutely unpunny.
 
Yeah but an AM who can make the final killer ball is an even greater asset. Despite what people think of Anderson, he's very able to drive the ball forward from CM.

I disagree. They're ten a penny nowadays, though obviously a good one costs a lot. I can't think of many CMs that could carry the ball as well as Adnan and have the creativity, passing range (great long range passing) and workrate that he has too.

In all honesty though, we both rate him so where he ends up is fine with me.
 

Thought this was a weird tweet.


What's weird about that? At 16 Ravel's talents were obvious and with the right mindset and determination he should have made Rooney like strides towards the first team. He was an idiot though and didn't have that focus so never progressed as he should have.

Adnan and Pogba were talented players but its how they trained on that made the difference and is why Adnan is making inroads to the first team and Pogba through different circumstances is starting for Juventus.
 
What's weird about that? At 16 Ravel's talents were obvious and with the right mindset and determination he should have made Rooney like strides towards the first team. He was an idiot though and didn't have that focus so never progressed as he should have.

Adnan and Pogba were talented players but its how they trained on that made the difference and is why Adnan is making inroads to the first team and Pogba through different circumstances is starting for Juventus.

It's weird that Rio's having digs at a kid on Twitter.
 
A dig at Ravel, bit unnecessary.

Or a message to the youngsters that talent will only take you so far? I've no sympathy for Ravel, there's too many young players that would give everything for his talents and despite hard work and total application, their dreams collapse and they get forgotten.

Here's Ravel though, in a position that every young player in the world wants to be in and he's too much of an ignorant little shit to take advantage of it, but because he was born with that talent, he still finds himself at West Ham playing in the Premier League.

I've no problems with Ferdinand taking any digs.
 
Here's the follow up incase anyone hasn't seen it.

 
Nothing wrong with Rio telling it straight about Ravel. With the right attitude he'd be a first team player for Manchester United now. Life is a lottery, and if you draw a winning ticket, you'd better cash it in.

The kid is lucky that he hasn't fallen as far as he might have. His talent was still enough to save him.
 
Yeah I don't think he was having a go at Morrison, he really liked him by all accounts.
 
What the hell is this?

Manchester City looking to swoop for Manchester United youngster Adnan Januzaj

14 Sep 2013 23:00
Adnan Januzaj has impressed United's neighbours, and with a year left on his contract he could make the switch from red to blue
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Tug of war: Adnan Januzaj wanted by Man City
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Manchester City are looking to snatch super kid Adnan Januzaj – described as the Belgian David Beckham – from the grasp of Manchester United, writes Alan Nixon of the Sunday People.
City are working to land the brilliant 18-year-old midfielder, whose contract at Old Trafford is up at the end of the season.
Januzaj could stun United boss David Moyes by quitting the champions for their major rivals – leaving them to haggle over a low compensation fee.
Moyes faces a major contract row with Januzaj’s advisers and City hope to pick up the pieces. The teenager has already played in some big games since Moyes arrived – he came on as a 67th-minute sub in yesterday’s win over Crystal Palace – and the new boss does not want to lose him.
Januzaj has been targeted by some of the biggest clubs at home and abroad but City’s bid is the cause for most United concern.
Moyes does not want a repeat of the problems under Sir Alex Ferguson when he lost the likes of Paul Pogba because United would not meet his demands.
The stand-off could stop United sending Januzaj out on loan and they may have to offer him big cash quickly as they try to sort out his future.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...chester-city-looking-swoop-manchester-2275413
 
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