As far as debut's go Rooney>Macheda>Ronaldo>Januzaj
Adnan Januzaj
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He could be our very own Silva, Mata, Ozil type. No pressure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Januzaj is (or was) a big fan of Kaka. I think he's probably studied his game.
I'm really excited by Januzaj, I haven't had this good a feeling about a youngster probably for the entire decade. I really hope Moyes isn't afraid of using him in bigger matches and he continues to get a lot of playing time.
I'm really excited by Januzaj, I haven't had this good a feeling about a youngster probably for the entire decade. I really hope Moyes isn't afraid of using him in bigger matches and he continues to get a lot of playing time.
You can undermine his impact by saying that it was vs a 10 man Crystal Palace all you want, but the reality is that it was only 1-0 when he came onto the pitch and he instantly transformed the quality of our play. His awareness, control and balance lifted the stadium.
I'd say that Moyes is delighted to have such a young talent on his hands.
I'd say that Moyes is delighted to have such a young talent on his hands.
Get him tied to a new contract asap. Kid probably wants to see some signs of first team action so I think he'll sign with us if we continue to use him. Losing him and Pogba would be sickening.
Worrying that he's still not signed a new deal
The next move is to give him the no.7.
How was his debut any worse than Ronaldo's? It certainly wasn't miles off. I remember Ronaldo's being a showcase of his ability rather than him changing the game through goals and assists. I think he put in a cross from which Ruud should have scored but otherwise it quite same as januzaj's. If anything Ronaldo's had more explosiveness and januzaj's more maturity because they're different sorts of talents.
Adnan came in and instantly put in a cross that troubled the keeper, which also then led to Fellaini's belter.
The kid is quality, and bar any serious injury and plenty of opportunities, will fulfil some great potential.
The main thing with him is that whenever he's been challenged, he's responded and improved. A few people mentioning his pace, but what he has got is a very effective turn of pace that he uses well.
There's no guarantee of anything. He could suffer a career-ending injury in training; he could start drinking; he could sign for City. But it is clear from yesterday's game, along with the pre-season, that he's a serious talent, about whom we should be very excited.
If anyone has doubts about him beating a man, just watch his recent highlights from the Liverpool u21 game. He tore them to shreds.
Moyes quotes from yesterday:
Hope signs a new contract very soon, becoming a bit worried to be honest. Barcelona has shown interest, City want him, he is making a name for himself pretty fast and drawing alot of attention. Worried he is still on a one year ending contract, come Moyes sign him up for the next 5 years. I really don't want to lose this gem, i would be absolutely inconsolable.
I'm a tad worried too, but I'm confident the club has it under controll. They would not want to lose another talent like that..
I'm not worried at all. Moyes clearly rates him very highly and rightly so. We won't be letting this one go.
Also, his attitude seems to be perfect.
Also, his attitude seems to be perfect.
Thus agrees the chief
I think Ronaldo had a bigger impact against tougher opposition on his debut but that's besides the point really. It's hard to think of a more exciting cameo from a new United player - young or old - in a good few years now. And it does seem like the youth team watchers were right when they say he makes the step up with ease.
The thing I like about him aside from his obvious talent is the fact he likes to get stuck in. I only ever saw one game of him in the youth team but it was apparent then, it was apparent in pre-season and hopefully it'll continue to be a part of his game for years to come. You get the odd people saying Silva or Mata work hard but I think it's pretty clear they don't enjoy the defensive side of the game at all, and on some level they are liabilities out on the wing because they don't really track back. Januzaj doesn't seem like he'll have the same issue.
Well, I was, but I also took issue with the word special - now I'm veering towards thinking exactly the same thing. It's all relative of course but it was a bit silly to take issue with the word in the first case anyway. Anyone could see he had the talent to a first-team player for us, and when you think about the fact there have only been a handful of youth players each decade to go on and be a first team player with us it does mark you out as being a bit special. And Januzaj could potentially go on to surpass the likes of Fletcher, Brown, O'Shea and others which means you're in that bracket behind the likes of Giggs and Scholes...and that's pretty special.
The thing I like about him aside from his obvious talent is the fact he likes to get stuck in. I only ever saw one game of him in the youth team but it was apparent then, it was apparent in pre-season and hopefully it'll continue to be a part of his game for years to come. You get the odd people saying Silva or Mata work hard but I think it's pretty clear they don't enjoy the defensive side of the game at all, and on some level they are liabilities out on the wing because they don't really track back. Januzaj doesn't seem like he'll have the same issue.
Well, I was, but I also took issue with the word special - now I'm veering towards thinking exactly the same thing. It's all relative of course but it was a bit silly to take issue with the word in the first case anyway. Anyone could see he had the talent to a first-team player for us, and when you think about the fact there have only been a handful of youth players each decade to go on and be a first team player with us it does mark you out as being a bit special. And Januzaj could potentially go on to surpass the likes of Fletcher, Brown, O'Shea and others which means you're in that bracket behind the likes of Giggs and Scholes...and that's pretty special.
Most exciting performance since Rafael's debut, I thought. We shouldn't take any unnecessary risks here; chuck a good wage at him and start giving him more game time.
Now we need to refuse to play him while fielding Giggs, Young and occasionally Buttner in his position, citing experience and work rate as key values they possess, and refuse to offer him £18k a week only for him to go to Barcelona and replace Iniesta.
Good point about Barkley. Personally from what I've seen Januzaj seems to be the better talent, but its difficult to tell having seen so little of both of them.
I agree but "some point" has not come for me.
We're in for a crucial season IMO and if Valencia isn't up for it, he should be dropped. We won't get away with our wingers performing well below par again. Nani will be used more this season, Young has been decent so far and we have two extremely promising youngsters in Zaha and Januzaj waiting for their chance. I'll be extremely annoyed if despite all of this we'll keep playing Valencia in every single game because he 'needs to regain confidence'.
I agree he needs to step up but why do you say if Valencia is not up for it?
Because he seemed to have a massive lack of confidence problem last season.
I think the point I was making (without actually making it) is that I actually think he's more effective on the right hand side than the left. He's able to take on a man and go to the line and beat a man from there but more importantly than that he likes to cut inside and make those Silva/Mata/Ozil type cut back through passes which is something we've been severely lacking compared to our competition.
Having said that, I think he's best playing in the AM role having the freedom to switch with other players and go to either wing. As you could see from yesterday, he's someone who loves getting on the ball and has the full confidence to do so. He's very adventurous and 9 times out of 10 what he wants to do he does.
The world is literally his oyster, and as long as he continues to progress and stays grounded then I can't see any reason why he won't go on to be the biggest talent to come through our ranks since Giggs (Even though he came through another academy from the younger ages).
It's even more impressive when you consider that he's missed out a chunk of football due to injury and has literally bypassed the u18s and been fast tracked to u21s and goes on to be the standout player there.
id love if we started him and Zaha against Leverkusen they would be run ragged.
If all fit
DDG
RAFA
RIO
VIDA
EVRA
FELLAINI
CARRICK
ROONEY
ZAHA
VAN PERSIE
JANUZAJ
If all fit
DDG
RAFA
RIO
VIDA
EVRA
FELLAINI
CARRICK
ROONEY
ZAHA
VAN PERSIE
JANUZAJ
He's really a CM though, isnt he? I remember himself or someone in our staff saying something like that ..
Let us not forget that we have Lingard waiting in the wings for a chance. I don't think he'll be a first team player this season, he'll probably get the odd game here and there but I could see him possibly challenging for a squad place next year. Fergie, Moyes and his teammates seem to think of him quite highly but of course he doesn't fall under the special category of Adnan.
He's really not, he's an AM.
Well, I know he's been playing mostly in attacking positions for a few years now, but I swear he himself said that he is a central midfielder. He did play a few of his first academy-games in CM as well if I remember correctly. And as Ramshock said, he could probably play anywhere.
I must say, when he dropped deep yesterday, he did certainly strike me as a player that good also do very well in CM. Still a bit early to say though.
With experience and better physical attributes he could play CM. Fergie said he can play three roles in midfield right now.
This place is daft as soon as a youngster has a decent appearance for the club.
GM is right he's an attacking midfielder. Best in any of the '3' positions behind the striker in a 4231. I prefer him in the number 10 role but for the first team I think he'll play on the right or left and interchange with whoever is central. In an interview ge did say he can play in midfield as a number 8 but he isn't used there very often for both the U18s and U21s and I think it would take away from his attacking instincts as you really want him in and around the box as much as possible because he's a real threat with his link up play and penetrative passes seem to come easy to him, playing deeper would stifle that when its his best quality imo.
Cina, this place is daft no matter how a player performs.
True that.
He's not going to get a game as number 10 for the next 2 years at least with Rooney and Giggs around so we better introduce him to another role (like we should do with Kagawa as well).
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