I know, but surely he'll want to leave and we'll have to sell when he reaches the final 2 years of the contract.
Adnan Januzaj
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I know, but surely he'll want to leave and we'll have to sell when he reaches the final 2 years of the contract.
Someone said hes dating Tulia Contostavlos, that can only be bad!
I'm glad he a signed a few monthe back instead of delaying any decision but seriously, we'll get past this situation.It will turn, although not just yet I fear.Thing is though, Adnan should seriously be a regular starter and I reckon he'll be seeing plenty game time.He has made the right decision.
I think he will eventually end up playing centrally. I think he would be a good option as the furthest forward of a three-man midfield.
Might as well build the team around him at this point.
I see no reason why this should not be happening already. Our creativity from the middle is poor, and we have plenty of wingers who can use the wide positions.
Jones and Carrick can do the leg work while Januzaj does most of the creativity. Januzaj is hardly a slacker though and will certainly put in the hard work.
It hasn't happened due to the same reason Kagawa-in-the-hole (no! this is not some sick sex joke!) hasn't happened - Rooney & RvP.
Whether that's best for the team or not, is another debate but the option certainly went out the window with Rooney's selfish meltdown. (form aside).
Januzaj is no slacker but he's still learning how to take up the right defensive positions and his overall awareness. Not really against playing him in the hole but it only solves half of the issue. He's not at the stage yet where I'd say he's tactically disciplined.
Why would he want to leave as some are suggesting? You can be sure Pogba would have stayed if he was getting as much game time and praise as Januzaj is. He left a successful United side to go to a not so successful Juventus, it's all about game time.
They won Serie A last year and they're on top this year...
I'd say he is better off at 10 than anywhere else. He's great on the wing too, but I've seen him slow up instead of tracking back very often. We don't have the strength in midfield right now to cope with that.
At 10, he can focus on doing what he does best, which is attacking. He's brilliant in tight spaces, he actually has very mature decision making for his age, and he can play a pass. He's got good control, and despite some saying it's his weakest element, he has a fairly decent show on him too. He will never get games at 10 though, as Rooney will always be the top dog there.
Having said that, I think he's still a wonderful player on the wing and I'd rather he started than most our other wingers, if not all.
At the time we were a better team, when full strength we probably still are. He should have been given more opportunities here, but they weren't forthcoming so he left. I highly doubt Pogba could have predicted our fall from grace. He just wanted to play.
I don't see Januzaj doing the same, they seem like completely different characters even if he wasn't getting as many games as he is now.
Totally off topic but you're plain old wrong on this, clearly Juve ain't less successful than us and they've won just as much now, regardless of what they were 'at the time'. They were favourites to win Serie A when he joined them, and they won it.
Successful is probably the wrong choice of words but Juve and Serie A in general haven't been what they once were for a while now. In terms of wanting to win things United was a better place to be.
Sligo Rovers won the Irish League last year Cina, doesn't mean they are/were as strong as us. Juve may have won Serie A, but winning that and winning the Premier League with almost a record number of points aren't the same atm. The premier league is a much better league and as winners last year we were a much better side than Juventus. They may be successful domestically atm but over the last 10 years we have been a much much bigger, stronger and more successful side.
Can we have a new chant for him to the tune of Madonna's Holiday?
His statement was "not so successful", that wasn't true. We weren't right then and there the more likely team to achieve success, nor were we currently more successful as we hadn't won a trophy the season before, by all accounts City were still the bookies favourites to win the title where as Juve were the favourites for the Serie A.
I'm not debating who the 'better' side was back then.
CL finalists 3 from 4 season very recently would suggest otherwise. Perennial PL winners since it's inception. I'd call that more successful if you can discount a 1-2 season aberration where we finished second on goal difference to City.
We were and are more successful than Juve. Of course right now Pogba is probably vindicated, but at the time playing time and money were the issues and certainly Juve was seen as a slight step down club wise but a step up career wise.
You're right to take me up on it, I should have phrased it better but the point I was trying to make still stands - He didn't leave United because he thought he'd be more successful at Juve, he left because he was guaranteed games and money. Januzaj has that here so I don't see why he would want to leave.
We were previously more successful, yes, but not likely to be more successful than them in the upcoming seasons, and that turned out to be true. They won their domestic league last year and probably will again this year.
They are a slight step down but Juve are still a massive club.
Anyway, he already admitted successful was the wrong word to use, I'm not debating who's the bigger club between the two or who's been more successful in the past, just the notion that he was moving to a club less likely to give him success.
In my opinion he cant just focus on playing as a 10. Later today I will post my thoughts from Newcastle game onto the Davie Moyes tactician thread. I suggest you check them out so you can see what I mean. I would rather you get the full picture there then me try to simplify it in a few sentences.
The best way I can sum it up for you is that right now with no Carrick I think we someone in the team willing to play as a balanced no.10 (i.e. how Oscar plays for Chelsea).
Plus we need Adnan on the wings because surprisingly he's been one of the best at penetration and getting his marker out of position. I love his feints. they're deadly. Makes up for the fact he aint the quickest kid on the block.
Again, just to clarify Juve are as likely to give him domestic success but at that point it looked much more likely that United would be a better vessel for European success.
Anyway, it's a moot point because we all agree that the levels of success expected was not the reason for him leaving. It was purely money and pitch time, two things that are not an issue currently with Adnan.
True, it is.
Don't see how we were likely to be a better vessel in Europe though, weren't Juve actually rated higher than us in the CL last year?
Of course they weren't, it would've been fecking mental if they were.
It's bad enough having the Pogba debate in the Pogba thread, let alone bringing it to the Januzaj thread.
Again one of the top performers, really gives us something different from the right wing. So many options open to him. Run down the wing and deliver a cross with his right foot, cut in and cross or make a pin point pass or come infield and support the centre midfielders. Showed all that and more today, was our stand out performer in the first half, a little quiet in the second but did that superb turn. Also showed his ability to get into goal scoring position with that superb control, turn and shot.
Where did that come from ?I think it was false, thankfully.
He's too wise to fool about like that.
I wonder what advice gives him because the kid is fearless. In the first half, there was a moment where the game was getting a bit stale and we werent creating much. Then Januzaj pops up on the left wing and jus says "feck you guys I'm going to make an impact on this game myself" and just goes on a run along the whole pitch. The shaktar players couldnt get near him!
I love watching players that continually show that bravery. When i was in the newbies, I wasnt as convinced but his attitude is spot on.
I love watching players that continually show that bravery. When i was in the newbies, I wasnt as convinced but his attitude is spot on.
I think Moyes has used him perfectly so far. When Moyes took over, people were saying he wouldn't play Januzaj and that he is another talent we would lose. But he has introduced him slowly, relied on him on occasions, left him out at times, kept him out of the limelight as much as possible and most importantly signed him up to a new deal.
The pleasing thing for me about Januzaj at the moment is that he just looks like a normal player, he doesn't look like a young kid getting his chance, I don't feel United is weaker with him out there, in fact we are stronger. So it seems he is finding the transition into senior football better than what a lot of us thought he might.
The pleasing thing for me about Januzaj at the moment is that he just looks like a normal player, he doesn't look like a young kid getting his chance, I don't feel United is weaker with him out there, in fact we are stronger. So it seems he is finding the transition into senior football better than what a lot of us thought he might.
He has looked like one of our few players in recent games that have gave a feck. Very often he drops incredibly deep or ventures over to the other side of the pitch, just to provide an option from a teammate, he's fully aware of the static movement in the side and probably knows he has to take on more responsibility - although he really shouldn't be burdened by it.
He is so fearless you are right and has so mature despite his age. You compare him to Barkley and as good as Barkley is, he has a tendency for poor decision-making and can be quite raw of that. Januzaj can be guilty of that and was quite a few times tonight, but generally he shows great composure, movement and awareness of what's happening around him.
I didn't really initially buy into the massive hype he had at first, maybe I've grown a bit despondent at our inability to keep hold of promising young players like Morrison and Pogba in recent years and I hadn't seen much of him prior to this season. I was wrong however, he can be exceptional.
He is so fearless you are right and has so mature despite his age. You compare him to Barkley and as good as Barkley is, he has a tendency for poor decision-making and can be quite raw of that. Januzaj can be guilty of that and was quite a few times tonight, but generally he shows great composure, movement and awareness of what's happening around him.
I didn't really initially buy into the massive hype he had at first, maybe I've grown a bit despondent at our inability to keep hold of promising young players like Morrison and Pogba in recent years and I hadn't seen much of him prior to this season. I was wrong however, he can be exceptional.
Agreed with everything you said but this point I just can't seem to understand some fans on. I agree, we lost two great talents in Morrison and Pogba. But that's two players we lost, we have brought through so many other players over the years and so many fans threw their toys out of their pram over two players. I'm not saying you are but in general over the loss of the players.
Again, I know they are great talents but just because Ferguson made a decision on two individuals doesn't stop our ability and intent on bringing young players though.
Well in recent years we haven't had as much joy in bringing through as many academy products, certainly not to the levels of Pogba and Morrison - as good as Evans and Welbeck are/can be.
I'm not exactly upset over it. They were both situations that were probably the right things to do at the time. I certainly think we should have shown more faith in Pogba and started him regularly and although he would have the utmost belief in his ability to make an instant impact, it was quite impatient on his part.
Morrison's attitude was in question and a move for him - on a personal perspective - was probably the best thing for him. His career has certainly been rejuvenated this season and he is finally realising his potential. Given his 'influences' in Manchester, maybe a change in scenery was the best thing for him however.
So I'm not particularly upset, both were delicate situations, although I'd be lying if I said I was happy with our negotiation team. Both of their potential is unreal and they would more than likely be worth whatever we chuck at them in a few years time. It's just when you think of how good those two could be, compared to Tom Cleverley and that's what I feel despondent about. He simply doesn't compare to them unfortunately.
With Januzaj we finally have an exceptional talent come through for the first time in years - that we've held onto. And as I said, I was unaware just how good he really is.
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