Adnan Januzaj
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I'm pretty sure there's a rule that once you play for a national team's first team, and you want to switch, then you'd have to go 5 years without international football, which is why it doesn't happen anymore compared to before.
Hopefully people will keep this in mind when Moyes next time gets criticised for not starting Adnan.
Understandable. Arsenal overplayed Wilshere in his first season and he ended up getting serious injuries.
I've thought for a while that eventually he will develop into a no.10 or a false 9. He's got all the tools to play those roles and become the main attacking threat, and in many ways he'd be wasted out wide.
He probably needs to play a couple of seasons on the wings first though, and establish himself in the first team and gain a bit of experience before he is eventually moved more centrally.
He probably needs to play a couple of seasons on the wings first though, and establish himself in the first team and gain a bit of experience before he is eventually moved more centrally.
He has the raw qualities to become a top class attackers, playing on the wings is a good way to get playing time and develop as a player. So far everything Moyes has said regarding is spot on, he won't wanna use him too much but then again Adnan is so good already that it'd be a risk not to.
Nani - Adnan - Kagawa
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Haven't found anything on that in FIFA's rules. And just to be clear, I'm only talking about the specific situation where Kosovo would be a newly recognized country by the FIFA of course. I know you normally can't switch nations, unless there are special circumstances.
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Seeing that Russia, China, Spain, and tons of other countries will never ever recognize an independent Kosovo, that's just never going to happen. I doubt FIFA will want to change their rules just in order to accommodate Kosovo. What would be next then, Turkish Cypres? South Ossetia? You'd have hundreds of other wannabe independent break-away states who would all want to be recognised by FIFA. You'd start to wonder how many more countries does one nation need. It's the same farce as with Serbia vs. Montenegro, same people, etc, and yet you have two separate states. Next thing would be Republika Srpska, if we would get our independence you'd have three separate countries consisting of literally the same people, participating in sports events etc. It's a joke, imo.
Yeah, you don't want to risk injuries or burn out. Plus, at some point, he will hit an atleast questionable run of form, it's inevitable, so pulling him away at times is definitely understandable from Moyes.
Spain is irrelevant to be fair, and China doesn't ever use the veto for something that is outside of their strategic zone. But yeah, Russia will be ready to use the veto until Serbia is forced to recognize Kosovo (and they will if they are serious about being a member of EU).
Situation about FIFA is a bit different cause if I am not mistaken it is not required to be member of UN (British states for example, or Switzerland until 2001), but to be regognized internationally(Kosovo is recognized from 105 countries, including the most important ones). But yeah, as long as Platini is in power, we don't have much hope. Blatter is friendly but UEFA has a lot of power.
Turkish Cyprus, Ossetia are completely different things. They are recognized from a single country while Kosovo is recognized from more than 100 (including 23 of 28 members of EU, US, Japan, Australia, Canada, South Korea etc, pretty much entire Western Civilization) and they don't have anything in common.
Serbia and Montenegro aren't practically the same country at all. They never were. But if Republica Srpska ever becomes a de juro indipendent state, feck knows, probably it would be better if they play for Serbia.
Ah okay, I just thought it would be the same situation regardless of Kosovo being a newly recognized country or not.
How about England, Wales, N. Ireland and Scotland all being part of 1 country, the UK, and having their own team. You can even include Gibraltar in this since recently. Or how about Faroeur Islands (part of Denmark) having their own National Team? My point is... there's already precedents for this in the football world, so it's not unthinkable for Kosovo to get their own National Team at some point. As far as I understand from Revan and others who know more about the subject than I do, it's unlikely in the short term because of Platini, but that doesn't mean it's impossible forever. After all, as far as I know Kosovo is recognized by most of the EU, is it not? That's more than the Faroeur Islands or Gibraltar for example, yet they are allowed to compete in qualifiers.
Maybe you are right that this example may not be the best one. A better example is players like Prosinecki and Boban who played a few games for Yugoslavia but when Croatia was formed, they chose to represent Croatia. That would be more like how it could be for Januzaj.
23 from 28. In overall it has 105 recognitions from UN members.
Don't know what exactly is the Platini's deal considering that France recognized Kosovo (together with US, UK and a few other countries) in the first day Kosovo declared indipendence and I don't believe that Serbia naming a stadium 'Michel Platini' mean that much to him, but he seems against the idea of accepting Kosovo. If I am not mistaken recently him and Blatter (who is pro for Kosovo) said that there should be a solution but I don't think that this will go fast. At best, it would be for qualifiers for WC 2018 but possibly it will last even longer. Of course there is no sense for Adnan to wait for it, especially considering that he can change sides when/if Kosovo gets accepted on FIFA.
Serbia and Montenegro are the same people, that's what I was saying. You could go indefinitely like this and say if Serbia split into another five different entities then you'd have 5 different what, nations? This is why I'd be against it, I'd rather centralize the talent in one country and increase my chances of winning. I'd rather we pool the best Serbian talents from Montenegro, Serbia, and Republika Srpska, for example, and create one quality team rather than having a couple of isolated talents scattered over different footballing nations achieving nothing.
Like what Giggs did with Wales. The awesomest player ever stuck for two decades with a bunch of anti-footballers. But alright, maybe it's a bit more complicated in the UK, don't know. Imagine you'd have all the best players from Wales Ireland Scotland and England playing for UK, would that have made a difference? Don't know, maybe.
No it wouldn't Cristiano, it would be a similar situation if lets say Adnan played for Serbia and then afterwards he opts out to play for the entity that broke out of Serbia.
Since when? If I am not mistaken, the Kingdom of Montenegro (one of it's names) has existed for quite a few years (even before Stefan Nemanja's Serbia). Despite talking the same language, there are quite a few differences between Serbian and Montenegron people, and surely they wouldn't feel comfortable being called Serbian.
About Republika Srpska, don't you have dual citizenship anyway (so you're eligible to play for Serbia, right)?
I'd personally like to welcome Adnan to come live in Ireland.
I thought he was fantastic yesterday. He looked so mature for such a young and inexperienced player.
Fulham genuinely looked like they were collectively shitting their pants everytime he got the ball.
Fulham genuinely looked like they were collectively shitting their pants everytime he got the ball.
The opinion in Montenegro is split on that, I have relatives who call themselves nothing else but Serbs. We speak the exact same language, have the same faith, customs, traditions, names etc etc. Regional differences exist in abundance but they dont account for separate ethnicities. I mean we all have this crazy shit going on, we all just want to be separate and independent and whatnot, I just think it's all bolox, you'd soon have 50 'countries' consisting of 100.000 people each, it's ridiculous, imo.
As for RS, yea you can have dual citizenship if you wanted to, basically just need an address in Serbia, so technically speaking if I'd be a super good football player I'd check what are the better prospects and then pick accordingly. I feel stronger for RS, obviously, but I'd still go play for Serbia. Or Montenegro for that matter, whatever is best.
I'd rather want him to play for the new football force Belgium, on some proper international level and see him do some damage there.
That vacant number 7 is waiting for Januzaj. I wish I could bet on it! Is there anywhere to bet on it?
If he plays against Arsenal, something special will happen....
It's written in the stars for him to take them apart and add to his ever growing reputation
It's written in the stars for him to take them apart and add to his ever growing reputation
I agree. I don't really get the criticism about his football intelligence. I mean, yes, he does make the wrong choice from time to time, but no less often than Rooney and RVP, imo. Januzaj, by and large, takes the right option even when he attempts his long range efforts. His shots usually end up whistling past the post.
The thing I like about him is that you can give him the ball anywhere on the pitch and rely on him to do something useful with it. In fact, he joins only Nani, Carrick, Evra, Rooney and RVP as a United players who can make something happen which I can't predict. It's a rare gift and it's exciting to have another proponent of it. He probably does it more consistently than any of the others too.
The thing I like about him is that you can give him the ball anywhere on the pitch and rely on him to do something useful with it. In fact, he joins only Nani, Carrick, Evra, Rooney and RVP as a United players who can make something happen which I can't predict. It's a rare gift and it's exciting to have another proponent of it. He probably does it more consistently than any of the others too.
The kid is only 18 and already that good. We can only hope he stays injury free. And true to United.
Well, about 30% of Montenegro citizens are Serbians, with more than 50% being Montenegrins.
Anyway, we have already derailed the thread too much talking about Balkan politics which are stupid even for us Balkanians, and I don't expect to be interesting for others
Let's talk about United's Adnan. Better!
Well, about 30% of Montenegro citizens are Serbians, with more than 50% being Montenegrins.
Anyway, we have already derailed the thread too much talking about Balkan politics which are stupid even for us Balkanians, and I don't expect to be interesting for others
Let's talk about United's Adnan. Better!
Would much rather see him developed as a winger for now, with Young faltering and Valencia's patchy consistency; it's an area in which we could do with some real quality. We already have a number of players who can slot in behind the striker, I'd much rather offload Young and let Januzaj own the position.
Future attacking line:
7 Zaha-------8 Powell---------11 Januzaj
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Future attacking line:
7 Zaha-------8 Powell---------11 Januzaj
----------9 Welbeck/other---------
That's a tasty line up, especially with Zaha and Januzaj perfectly comfortable on opposite wings.
Big talent.
The future line up without speculating any signings in my opinion would be closer to:
De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Smalling - Fabio(?)
Powell - CM
Zaha - Lingard- Januzaj
Welbeck
Powell will be an amazing player for us.
Would be nice to see Henriquez make it here too. He's one of our relatively low key signings, but he's got a great scoring rate.
His poaching abilities make me see him as more of a super-sub.
He's young, so he could be anything really. Still, there's always room for a good super-sub.
Scores a lot of headers but that's about all I know.
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