wheres the golden boy 2013 thread?
Adnan is between the 40 nominees.
ps. Pogba to win it probably... maybe Draxler.
Adnan is between the 40 nominees.
ps. Pogba to win it probably... maybe Draxler.
Adnan Januzaj
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
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Draxler I reckon.
This is nonsense. Jones has the first ten position and then come the other people.
You can make a reasonable argument that he is the most promising attacking teenager in world football.
Is that your audition for match of the day? Say more than that!
Have you seen all the other attacking teenagers in world football?
Why does he need to when he knows we've got the most promising attacking teenager in world football?
So he has been officially declared the caf's October 2013 player of the month. He's been excellent, of course, but it doesn't say much for the established players that Rooney was the only other one near him.
When was the last time an 18 year old would have been player of the month for us? Ronaldo or Rooney I'm guessing?
Giggs?
My money is on rafael.
We all seem a little skeptical when there are talks of depending on him on a regular basis because he is young. The thing is, if he is that special then maybe that is exactly what we need to do to get even more out of him. Looking at Ryan Giggs, Cristiano Ronaldo and Cesc Fabregas, who like Adnan were considered special talents at a very young age, you will find that when he was 18/19, Giggs played 51 games for United that season (1991/92) and scored 7 goals, Ronaldo played 40 games scoring 6 goals in 2003/04 and Fabregas played 54 games scoring 4 goals and providing 16 assists in 2006/07. Clearly their clubs depended on them heavily at 18/19 so why should we be cautious with Adnan at 18/19. If he is showing superior performance when compared to his competition in the team then he should start every game.
Blimey. Fabregas must have been tired after that season.
No wonder he wanted to leave arsenal.
whoops by bad, its 54
So him and Ronaldo share the same birthday too.. 
Adnan's definitely got a bit of Salihamidzic and Mahdavika in him, that's for sure.
don't let his father hear you say that
Let's just hope he can continue this form he's showing and we'll see how far it takes him
Hopefully, his light frame wouldn't make him injury prone. He, Zaha, and Welbeck are the future of United attack. Thanks to Fergie who left an array of excellent youngsters/young players in the team.
He hasn't got a light frame, he has just shot up and looks like he is still growing. A bit like Welbeck was a little gangly until he filled out properly. Januzaj will definitely fill out.
don't let his father hear you say that
Let's just hope he can continue this form he's showing and we'll see how far it takes him
Sorry. Was a bad joke and a bad choice of player considering the Bosnian link. Just plucked some random names to go along with what pace said. He's getting compared to every player under the sun.
He clearly is an unbelievable talent and has executed himself well into the managers thinking for a starting birth. The question I pose is - how many games do you think he will feature this season? He is already one of the best players in the team which says as much about his abilities as a player as much as it underlines the lack of star quality in our current team. Do we think he will be playing in our biggest games? I would like to think he would be one of the first names on the team sheet from now on, simply because he has showed so much maturity in his game that the lack of experience and composure most other young talented players usually have, is non existent with this kid. He is young fresh and has more legs than most players in the prem, he never seems to tire. From now on I would like to see him starting in all crucial games. I really feel his passing, his movement, penetrative weighted passes and just general sex on the football pitch is too great to be deprive the team of.
What do you think?
What do you think?
He should be in the matchday squad for every single game.
Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Januzaj and cannot wait to see how he progresses, but there's also a side of me that would err on the side of caution in relation to declaring him the next [insert the the name of footballing icon here]. He has been terrific in parts, but he's also shown poor decision-making at times too, which is normal for a young player. It's not like he's come in and been 10/10 every single time he's featured.
Also, I think the fact that he's the new flavour of the month is exaggerating his performances ever so slightly. When you factor in our difficult start to the season and our average performances, Adnan has been a breath of fresh air, which in my opinion makes his ascension to the first-team appear a little more impressive than it actually has been.
Nani is receiving flak from all angles, Valencia is no longer the blue-eyed boy, Rooney is still to be completely forgiven by the fans, van Persie is uncharacteristically out of form, Kagawa isn't playing to his potential and Young is Young. I suppose it's natural then that we cling in hope to some figure, and as we're all football romantics, Adan, as an Academy product, is that figure.
I suppose what I am getting at is, yes, he has been marvellous in fits and spurts for us, but let's not get carried away yet. He's still an unknown quantity for the opposition but his card will be marked more often now. If he can continue his sharp upcurve of performances under this extended scrutiny then I believe we can all begin to believe the hype, but as it stands, let's see can he mix it with the bigger teams than the likes of Sunderland and Norwich before heralding him as the next Cryuff.
Also, I think the fact that he's the new flavour of the month is exaggerating his performances ever so slightly. When you factor in our difficult start to the season and our average performances, Adnan has been a breath of fresh air, which in my opinion makes his ascension to the first-team appear a little more impressive than it actually has been.
Nani is receiving flak from all angles, Valencia is no longer the blue-eyed boy, Rooney is still to be completely forgiven by the fans, van Persie is uncharacteristically out of form, Kagawa isn't playing to his potential and Young is Young. I suppose it's natural then that we cling in hope to some figure, and as we're all football romantics, Adan, as an Academy product, is that figure.
I suppose what I am getting at is, yes, he has been marvellous in fits and spurts for us, but let's not get carried away yet. He's still an unknown quantity for the opposition but his card will be marked more often now. If he can continue his sharp upcurve of performances under this extended scrutiny then I believe we can all begin to believe the hype, but as it stands, let's see can he mix it with the bigger teams than the likes of Sunderland and Norwich before heralding him as the next Cryuff.
Yup, should start all our big games. Someone else mentioned Ronaldo and Giggs amount of games for us when they were the same age so no reason Januzaj shouldn't be the same as them.
Yes he should you're correct.His United career is still in its infancy but his quality,confidence,maturity and end product demand that he is involved and he may not begin all the big games this season, but he will have some impact on them and before long he'll be the first name on the team sheet.He still has some growing to do, but he needs to be managed properly and he's at the right club.Thank feck he signed on and thank feck SAF spotted him and David Moyes trusted him.Personally I think he will be the major reason we have any success this season and he will put extra bums on seats.He has the wow factor.Good times ahead!!
Yep and like them it's not like he's competing with massive world class superstars (although Lee Sharpe was funking unlucky).
He shouldn't play every game but he certainly needs to play when he's physically and mentally prepared as far as I'm concerned. Managing burnout is the challenge because I'm sure he's doing overtime in other areas such as in the gym.
He doesn't have light frame. Got a healthy skeletal system with broad shoulders that can be easily filled up with muscles. Bit like young Ronaldo or Bale. The question is do we want him to bulk up - how much will he benefit from that but also what could deteriorate in the process.
Doesn't need to bulk up - look how many brilliant midgets there are around - Messi, Ozil, Oscar, Silva, Iniesta, Mata you could go on and on.
He isn't a midget. At 18 he's nearly pushing 6ft from what I can see. He'll need to bulk up as he grows...tall and slight isn't great for balance.
Midget was the wrong word. He'll fill out a bit naturally but there's no need for us to be worried at all about his build imo.
Yep, get him involved as much as possible. Even if we suffer in one or two big games, we're safe in the knowledge that it'll add to his experience and benefit both him & Utd next season and many seasons to come. I'd rather Januzaj get thrown in away at Chelsea than see Moyes play it safe and start Young, just because he's experienced.
Ronaldo & Rooney took a bit of time to get to grips with the Champions League. We got taught a lesson or two (Milan for example) and got knocked-out in the groups in '05. But while we were all doom & gloom as fans, Fergie knew it would get better once Ronaldo & Rooney matured & developed.
It all depends on things like how fast he actually is. I can't figure out if he's rapid or if he's just that damn good on the ball.
People more qualified behind the scenes to decide how he should mould his body I suppose.
I'm chuckling at Januzaj being compared to a midget.I don't get this obsession with pace. Change in speed and agility is far more important - Iniesta, Silva, Mata, Ozil etc should be enough proof.
There is no obsession with pace. And agility and change in speed isn't more important, it's beneficial either way.
Ronaldo Bale and Robben to name a few are effective users of pace.
Januzaj is almost a fusion of both styles.
Those things are important but it is more to do with spacial awareness when you are looking at the modern Spanish player.
Xavi for example is a master of not just controlling a ball with his first touch but also directing the ball into the optimum space available with that same touch. You watch Welbeck and Cleverley for example and their first touch is often just about control, the second touch is about movement and getting going. Messi too is an absolute master at moving into the optimum space available to him and that coupled with his close control makes it so hard for defenders to dispossess him.
I see that in Januzaj, he has great spacial awareness and he also reads opposition players brilliantly, it enables him to go past players whilst not moving at great speed. We have only really Nani with similar abilities in the squad though I would rate Januzaj as quite a bit better than Nani in that department.
I think that us British are painfully guilty of being obsessed with physical attributes in football when the evidence is all around us that such focus is holding us back.
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