I didn't say he's a first team starter, I said he's part of the first team squad which is what you've just alluded to.
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I didn't say he's a first team starter, I said he's part of the first team squad which is what you've just alluded to.
Ah, as you were then.
Okay I don't know why the feck we're arguing on a forum, so how about we both take a step back and take out the angry tone and talk civilly without insults.
And, yes I was very impressed with Morrison in his 2 outings for us, but please don't make up lies now because I never considered him a first team player. I might have said that he impressed me more than Pogba did, or he should be given a chance, but I never considered him a first team player.
Januzaj is a completely different kettle of fish. He went on tour and really impressed, he's come back and has been given chances and has really impressed. Moyes even said himself that he wanted to use him earlier on, and I believe that he will get a lot more chances after the international break. Do I think he will start every match? No. But, you can't deny that he's part of the first team squad now, it's clear as day that he is.
Of course we will still see him play for the u21s, but he's still part of the first team squad.
Exactly, the Caf accountants concern themselves too much with who's getting paid what.
You called one of my posts nonsense, ignored everything I have said to refute your OTT assessments and you keep moving the goalposts about the debate. You've made up things that I have supposedly said.
Januzaj is not a "completely different kettle of fish". He is one of many talented youth products we developed over the years. He has shown his talent throughout his career in different age groups, but you are going into hyperbole with your assessment. One of your posts stated he's woth 30/40k a week. This simply isn't the case. He could be in a year or two, but not now. This is what I'm saying, the club will not base their contract offer on that. They will offer what he's currently worth, which is that of a young squad player. They will not disrupt the squad by giving a new member of the squad a contract that places him in a higher pay bracket than others. Using a player like Jones as an example, he will be involved more than Adnan but is only earning around 40k iirc.
I've not even followed the argument you're on about, but you do realise you are on the caf, right? You've pretty much defined how every thread runs right there!
But Januzaj is a completely different kettle of fish. He's the first player in a very long time (if you discount Pogba) who has come in and has slotted in and doesn't need to go through the loan system. He's ready for the first team, would I start him in a champions league final? Well no, not right now I wouldn't. But when you compare him to the other youth players we have, the Cole's, the Keanes etc then yes he is a different kettle of fish.
I didn't say he should get a 40k contract, I'm saying I think he's worth it. It's not like he's just a youth player, he's actually making a difference when he steps on the pitch.
My point was, if all they're asking for is £20k a week, then I wouldn't hesitate to give it to him. When you get a special player, then you give more leeway.
I'd start him in a CL final, no problem. The kid won't be phased by anything it seems.
b82, you need to chill out...it's only an internet forum.
b82, you need to chill out...it's only an internet forum.
Well it is 7 months away, so who knows I might do. But we haven't seen him in a really high intensity match yet. The type of match you only face when you play against the big boys at a fast pace, so it will be interesting to see how he handles that.
I'm completely chilled. I just don't like people putting words in my mouth and essentially making things up. Tbh don't know what I've done to suggest any other emotion.
This is all a bit premature... Barcelona might not even make it to the final.
You're no fun anymore.
Was I ever?
I've just started a rumor that he's signed a 5 year contract, so there's some good news for you.
Sauce?
If anyone thinks Macheda is anywhere near the player Adnan is, they need help. It was clear by Kiko's second game he wasn't going to live up to the hype of his debut.
Football Dave.
When he came off the bench and scored the winning goal? he clearly had potential sadly he doesn't seem to have lived up to it.
Best news for a long time. Well done!
His general play wasn't all that great in the games that followed, he still looked talented mind you, we all had high hopes but it is pretty clear Adnan is on a different planet in terms of talent.
How this plays out will determine how well this club is run. To lose three very highly talented youngsters ( yes Ravel had to leave for his own good but still ) in the space of a few years doesn't bode well for us.
Can't say I like the sound of this Dad.
Albania it is then...
Adnan apparently has had an interview with KTV(Albanian channel). He talks about Man United and also ofcourse about Albania. Let's see what he says.
They are different situations but they point is with Januzaj those have been the best three youngsters we have come through the academy in the 5-10 years. Two are gone, that is not a good precedent no matter the reason. We can't keep losing our best youngsters. 95% of fans would take Pogba back in a heartbeat, fans care about winning and seeing youngsters come through is always great. Juve offered more and they have been justified, the wage is a way of showing faith in the player. Sir Alex has not made many mistakes but he did not handle Pogba as well as he could have.
There is a bit of hyperbole there, we are talking about the very best youngsters, players who could be world beaters in the next 5 years. You don't let them go. You don't roll out the carpet for EVERY player. But the best have always got preferential treatment at ALL clubs even here.
Me neither. Also its surprising, given that they keep saying that he's ignoring the nation issue and focussing on what's happening at United, how distracted they seem to be by the nation issue. Get the bloody contract sorted and then start bitching at national team coaches.
Really couldn't give a shite about who he plays for internationally. He'd surely become Albania's greatest ever though?
I don't even understand the international issue. What is it actually for? If he was simply torn on which country he wanted to play for, then I'd get that, but it seems to be under the guise of this "focusing on his club career" thing, and I don't understand what that means. When all the other players go away for international duty does he sit in a room and concentrate really hard on a spreadsheet of his planned career path? Bone up on his United history? Stare at the club crest for a week? I don't understand what it's supposed to be doing for him. Or what going away with Belgium or Albania or Equatorial Guinea would do to negatively affect his club career. Fergie used to actively encourage youngsters going away with their countries.
I'd love to see him in the Belgium squad. They have great potential and could possibly challenge for major tournaments with the squad that they have and players coming through. It would be great to see him part of that, if it happened, imo. He'd definitely have a great chance of becoming Albania's best ever alright.
From the Daily Mail. Surely he won't choose England?
He's really managed to break the whole of football by scoring two goals hasn't he?
Not that anyone takes the Mail seriously.
To be fair though, at this very moment, what youngster is more coveted worldwide? He may not be the most sought after teenager but he is among them for sure. You could probably say for the players his age or younger, that only Goretzka and Oliver Torres are probably at that level but neither are really as known right now as Januzaj is, because of the impact he made.
Also it isn't just because he scored two goals (although it helped make the headlines). It was his overall performances every time he's stepped onto the pitch for us, instantly becoming pretty much our main player every time he's come on.
Also it isn't just because he scored two goals (although it helped make the headlines). It was his overall performances every time he's stepped onto the pitch for us, instantly becoming pretty much our main player every time he's come on.
I think his emergence has been too recent to be considered that highly; there's a number of teenagers who have been highly sought who have been on the scene for a while like Fischer, Bruma and Marquinhos (who PSG just paid an ungodly sum for beating out Barca in the process). I mean, Gnabry has been doing good things for us and has scored a goal this season but he's got to be doing it for a little while to be called "the most sought after teenager in Europe".
None of them are as sought after as Januzaj though, are they? You have to take into account the contract situation and everything, but pretty much every top team around the world is keeping tabs on how his contract situation develops, and if he doesn't renew, you can be sure that they'll all be chasing him. Can you say the same about the others you listed? I'm not so sure. Gnabry has been doing good things and he does look potentially a very good player, but the hype for him has been nowhere near the hype for Januzaj. Deserved or undeserved, it's the way it is.
For what it's worth I do think that Januzaj is the most promising youngster out there right now, and he'll show that this season, the only thing is he's just played 5 games for the first team so I can understand why a lot of people don't want to jump the gun with him. I rate him really highly though and think he has the potential to be BPITW one day, just hope he achieves that here.
I think the guy is gifted but i've seen enough football to know that he could easily flop, the attention he's getting at the moment is over the top and way too early.
Football isn't just about being talented, you need to have the right attitude and confidence, some players crumble under pressure, some lose focus when the money starts coming and some just fade away for one reason on another, we've seen that happen plenty of times over the years, a good game against sunderland and countries are fighting over him?! this just puts too much pressure on the kid.
Football isn't just about being talented, you need to have the right attitude and confidence, some players crumble under pressure, some lose focus when the money starts coming and some just fade away for one reason on another, we've seen that happen plenty of times over the years, a good game against sunderland and countries are fighting over him?! this just puts too much pressure on the kid.
Who is "we", United or Anderlecht?
I think he's called that by Internationally. He's wanted by Croatia, Belgium, Albania and England.
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