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I had the impression that his moments of individual class were less frequent for United.

Nah, that's simply not true. The one thing he always offered was moments of class. In his best games it was every time he got on the ball. The problem - well, aside from the fact that he simply never got any consistent game time after that first six months under Moyes - was whether he consistently contributed in between those moments.

I'd go so far as to say that Januzaj has already done three or four things on the pitch for United which require more skill than anything Ashley Young has done in his entire career with us. But these days every single time Young goes forwards he creates an attacking situation. He doesn't always leave two men on the ground or get the crowd on their feet with some wonderful dribbling or a vicious through-ball. But with a good brain, reasonable pace, good quick feet and most importantly a gritty determination to force himself or the ball into dangerous positions one way or another, he consistently creates useful situations. And unfortunately it's very hard for a manager under constant pressure to leave a player like that (for example) out in order to play Januzaj, who could have a stormer and leave the entire opposition defence with twisted blood, but who could also just provide a few lovely moments without ever creating a single proper attack.

In the end, you have to believe that Van Gaal has the foresight and patience to see that Januzaj can become a player who will use that prodigious ability with more consistency. But you can't necessarily blame him for not just giving Januzaj a regular spot in the first XI, no questions asked, even if it's not really Januzaj's fault either. Sometimes these things just take time.
 
You're trying too hard to show it. We all get it.

If he progresses well we'll be happy even if the loan confused many at first.

And you're talking as if he was world class last night and Dortmund extracted from him what we've never EVER seen. Good game, but the team he was playing was a joke compared to the high intensity PL games.

Really? I actually thought they were a decent side. I mean, I don´t want to make them bigger than they are, but they are clearly our strongest opponent in the group and certainly not cannon fodder, especially defensively. From what I have seen of them, their back line around their captain and Sweden international Granqvist is the strongest part of their team, which is also in tune about what a friend of mine, who follows the Russian league closely, warned me about before the match, calling their defense the second best in Russia behind St. Petersburg. They were very well organised and their pressing was honestly better coordinated and more intense than the one of most EPL sides. If you would put them in the lower half of either the Bundesliga or EPL they would not look out of place there and would be known as one of the more annoying teams to play against.

Just as his performance in the friendly against St. Pauli should not have been as hyped as it was here, we should not talk down this performance either. It was a tough game against a solid opponent, especially because we went down one goal pretty early and our poor creative axis caused our system to not run as smoothly as usual at least until Kagawa came on in HT and gave us more structure and urgency in the offense. Because of that Januzaj could not really profit from the usual service, but still did very well all things considered. He was part of some very nice combinations, had a few good maneuvers on the ball and was overall very active. He basically showed every strength I expected from him and the same can be said about his weaknesses. He held onto the ball for too long in a few situations and there were some scenes where his decision making got the better of him. His defensive contribution is also not on the standart of a Dortmund attacker, yet, which caused Tuchel to make him switch sides midgame and pair him up with the more experienced FB.

Overall, his time on the pitch with us so far was pretty much as I expected to be. If there were some minor surprises, it was besides the pitch. He found his place very quickly in the club, which is probably because Aubameyang instantly took him under his wing and is showing him the ropes in Dortmund. He is also seen laughing, smiling and joking around a lot on pictures. I always viewed him as very serious for a boy his age. This might just be my subjective impression, but maybe it is because the pressure with us is not as high as it was as academy prodigy (with all the hype coming with it) at United. If that pressure was a problem for him, a loan might just have been the right way to develop not only as footballer but also as person. I still think that we were not the ideal destination for him, though, and he should have gone to a club where he would have been a nailed down starter.
 
And you're talking as if he was world class last night and Dortmund extracted from him what we've never EVER seen.

Exactly. It was a good, promising performance, which is pleasing. But he's played better games for United without a doubt. Multiple goals, multiple assists, skinning defenders left and right, beating multiple opponents on the dribble. I'm not seeing brilliance that he hasn't already shown at United - the difference, hopefully, is that he might get more game time at Dortmund, allowing the consistency of his game to come on, and letting him gain experience, build up physical strength and presence, learn what to do when etc etc.
 
Schmelzer just isn't great on the ball. His technique isn't sharp, so he loses precious time while getting the ball under control. He also isn't a great passer: his short passes are okay, but he isn't exactly the player who offers penetration and he's also not the best at taking on other players.
His crossing has been decent this season, but that's probably another reason why he should stay wide.

It worked for the equalizer, but in general Schmelzer just isn't the player you want to have in a packed central area, because he's simply not nearly as effective as one of the AMs and part of the reason why Dortmund didn't have a great game yesterday was imho that they really lacked presence in the central area, at times it reminded me a bit of last season. Obviously this wasn't all Januzaj's fault since the other players Tuchel brought into the team didn't have great games, but I think this will be a problem for him against better sides.
Obviously he played well individually and having a more individualistic approach is a decent plan B if things aren't going so well for you, but I assume that Januzaj will try to be more than that.



Less frequently as in less good scenes per playtime.

Schmelzers game is all about short passing and hes great positionally as a left back. if his techniques isnt sharp and his ball control isnt great and doesnt offer much apart from a few crosses then what is he doing starting for dortmund? i think you are seriously undervaluing his attributes. if he didnt have a groin and knee injury he would have started for the german national side that won the world cup and youre saying he's sub par?! i cannot agree with that.

i do think dortmund had a problem in central areas but that was not down to januzaj, it was because kagawa and weigl didnt start and castro did. i think the opposition tried to dominate every space the dortmund players occupied which wasnt helped by the fact that there were no quick exchanges between mikhitaryan kagawa and schmelzer as park and castro who started alongside gundogan and mikhi struggled to handle the pressing. moreover auba also had an off night (as you mentioned many players had an off night). once kagawa and later weigel came on and dominated the middle of the park the team improved and got even better when januzaj moved away from a central striker position

at this point i cant even remember where this disagreement even started but since this is now completely deviating from the topic its best we stop. as United supporter i hope he develops well and as an admirer of dortmund i hope he does well for them wherever he plays.
 
You're trying too hard to show it. We all get it.

If he progresses well we'll be happy even if the loan confused many at first.

And you're talking as if he was world class last night and Dortmund extracted from him what we've never EVER seen. Good game, but the team he was playing was a joke compared to the high intensity PL games.

Also, if he does indeed put on cracking performances, I can assure you that's an outcome that is welcome at OT.

Right all the European teams are a joke compared to the EPL. That´s why they have to invite teams from Israel and Azerbaijan, so EPL teams win games at all. :lol:
 
Januzaj has potential, but as far as I am concerned by and large he has been pretty poor in a Manchester United shirt.
I am also fairly sure he played for Manchester United before LVG arrived on the scene.
 
If he were offered the same opportunities from all of those clubs why would he pick Dortmund?

There have been tons of reasons to choose Dortmund over all clubs bar the big 3 (Barca, Bayern, Madrid) in the past few years.
 
Your post looked like excitement to me.

God forbid! ;):angel:

This might just be my subjective impression, but maybe it is because the pressure with us is not as high as it was as academy prodigy (with all the hype coming with it) at United. If that pressure was a problem for him, a loan might just have been the right way to develop not only as footballer but also as person.

This loan deal is starting to make more and more sense to me.

Game time aside (he probably could of got a comparable amount of minutes at UTD), I think the move to a different club and different country is good for his personal development.

At Dortmund he is not the golden boy from the academy, the great hope who was given the #11 jersey. He is just another footballer who has to prove his worth and fight for his spot.

I am not saying he was complacent at UTD, but this loan could have a very positive effect on his attitude and personality

These are good points. I think Dortmund might be a healthier environment than United in general for young players around the first team levels. In most cases you're never going to find the one perfect loan club.

Also, the video seems to have been taken down, so here's another.

 
An impressive performance there in the Europe league. So far this loan move is turning out to be quite good for him. Hope we do not sell him and he is back here fresh and ready to claim a place next season.
 
Right all the European teams are a joke compared to the EPL. That´s why they have to invite teams from Israel and Azerbaijan, so EPL teams win games at all. :lol:
Yes because that's exactly what I meant. I dont agree with the premier league is da bestest ever campaign but league games are definitely more intense and physical than group stage europa fecking league games. At least that one for sure.
 
An impressive performance there in the Europe league. So far this loan move is turning out to be quite good for him. Hope we do not sell him and he is back here fresh and ready to claim a place next season.

I think it will be a great experience for him and he'll return a brand new player - significantly more experienced and confident than when he left.
 
I think it will be a great experience for him and he'll return a brand new player - significantly more experienced and confident than when he left.

If he can then we could potentially see Januzaj on the right wing with Memphis on the left and Martial up front in the long term.
 
BVB: Bürki, Ginter, Sokratis, Hummels, Schmelzer, Weigl, Gündogan, Hofmann, Kagawa, Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang #bvbb04

Januzaj dropped for Hofmann against Leverkusen. Reus is on the bench too, so there is a real chance Januzaj won't play at all today.
 
He got half an hour today. Didn't see the game though. Anyone see how he did?

@Sphaero

Average. Could have been given a pen for us and took and wasted one really good opportunity where Kagawa had a way better shooting position. Nice and tidy on the ball like usual, but overall nothing really noteworthy.
 
I've been seeing these compilations and I am most impressed by this one. IMO his main weakness is that he can be bullied off the ball, here, he was shielding intelligently and using his skill and balance to pass it on. Progress, IMO.
 
I've been seeing these compilations and I am most impressed by this one. IMO his main weakness is that he can be bullied off the ball, here, he was shielding intelligently and using his skill and balance to pass it on. Progress, IMO.

No, his main weakness was his terrible judgment. He would either lose the ball making a stupid attempt to beat 3 defenders or take terrible attempts on goal, breaking up what few attacks we were able to muster up. He was one of our worst outfield players everytime he has played for us in the last 2 seasons.

His pathetic clearance of a clear goal opportunity for Kagawa in that clip reminds me why he is on loan and not playing for us. Compare to other youngsters like Martial and Depay and how they have taken their positions by storm, and frankly, patience for Januzaj is running low.
 
No, his main weakness was his terrible judgment. He would either lose the ball making a stupid attempt to beat 3 defenders or take terrible attempts on goal, breaking up what few attacks we were able to muster up. He was one of our worst outfield players everytime he has played for us in the last 2 seasons.

His pathetic clearance of a clear goal opportunity for Kagawa in that clip reminds me why he is on loan and not playing for us. Compare to other youngsters like Martial and Depay and how they have taken their positions by storm, and frankly, patience for Januzaj is running low.

I agree with the 1st 2 lines, I was quite critical of his decision-making too when I used to watch, I just felt that his lack of strength/balance was a bigger weakness.

The rest of the post is just rubbish though.
"frankly, patience for Januzaj is running low" For whom? You? Januzaj must be broken-hearted.
For LVG? He recently implied that he's part of the club's future.
 
He's getting more game time there than he would be with us. The decision to loan him out is justified already, I think. Whether Dortmund was the best destination remains to be seen. Would rather he'd gone to a weaker side where he'd play even more, tbh.
 
I agree with the 1st 2 lines, I was quite critical of his decision-making too when I used to watch, I just felt that his lack of strength/balance was a bigger weakness.

The rest of the post is just rubbish though.
"frankly, patience for Januzaj is running low" For whom? You? Januzaj must be broken-hearted.
For LVG? He recently implied that he's part of the club's future.
Patience running low in a 20 year old. Says it all really.
 
Nothing too impressive, Dortmund are probably one of the most in form teams at the moment with 11 wins from 11 matches and loads of goals scored. If Januzaj gets some starts and lengthy sub appearances, I'd expect him to be a bit productive and have some quality performances offensively. Hope that that will come in time, he has some nice glimpses during the matches of quality, but its still too much fart imo.
 
He's getting more game time there than he would be with us. The decision to loan him out is justified already, I think. Whether Dortmund was the best destination remains to be seen. Would rather he'd gone to a weaker side where he'd play even more, tbh.

I disagree. Considering he's so young I think the confidence of playing in a good technical side, in a competitive league surrounded by experienced players is better than playing in a weaker side, where more pressure would have been on his shoulders to perform.
It's not just about minutes, being part of a team with a winning mentality, and playing with lots of experienced players is key too.
 
I disagree. Considering he's so young I think the confidence of playing in a good technical side, in a competitive league surrounded by experienced players is better than playing in a weaker side, where more pressure would have been on his shoulders to perform.
It's not just about minutes, being part of a team with a winning mentality, and playing with lots of experienced players is key too.
Is it though? How many talented players have really come out from established teams compared to smaller clubs? I think the level of the league certainly matters, but the quality of teammates / used to winning / mentorship factors are overrated. At that stage in a player's development, it really is all about the minutes.
 
Is it though? How many talented players have really come out from established teams compared to smaller clubs? I think the level of the league certainly matters, but the quality of teammates / used to winning / mentorship factors are overrated. At that stage in a player's development, it really is all about the minutes.

It's subjective, and each player develops differently.
It's not like LVG has a bad track record developing youth talent.

So I trust the decision to send him to Dortmund, they play excellent football, and he'll be able to develop his technical skills.
If he's as good as we all know he can be, then he should be able to break into that team - they promote youth prospects regularly. Nothing is going to be handed to him on a plate, like it would be if he was at a weaker team, he has to work hard to become a regular in that team and that's what he needs.
 
Nothing too impressive, Dortmund are probably one of the most in form teams at the moment with 11 wins from 11 matches and loads of goals scored. If Januzaj gets some starts and lengthy sub appearances, I'd expect him to be a bit productive and have some quality performances offensively. Hope that that will come in time, he has some nice glimpses during the matches of quality, but its still too much fart imo.

Agreed. Nobody can look bad in that team at the moment. Still think he overdribbles. He misses the moments to pass and should look for the options more often. But so did Gundogan almost the whole game. Januzaj definitely stole the clear scoring chance for Kagawa, but can´t blame him for that. Near impossible to watch the ball on the right and have eyes in your back to track your teammates run on the left.
Don´t think he made any progress toward a starting role in those 30 minutes. Hofmann had a strong game and the fact that Tuchel picked Januzaj for Krasnodar and Hofmann yesterday suggests Januzaj is 5th on the offensive midfielder depth chart. He´ll get his starts for now, but only in the EL and maybe against some weaker BL teams.
 
I don't see how he can be criticized for taking the opportunity away from Kagawa. He was also running onto a clear chance and should have easily slotted it into the left side of the net. Criticize for getting underneath and completely fecking it up sure but he is running onto as clear a chance as Kagawa, and honestly I think the direction he is coming in is better for the chance than Kagawa.
 
I don't see how he can be criticized for taking the opportunity away from Kagawa. He was also running onto a clear chance and should have easily slotted it into the left side of the net. Criticize for getting underneath and completely fecking it up sure but he is running onto as clear a chance as Kagawa, and honestly I think the direction he is coming in is better for the chance than Kagawa.

I don't understand it either - he was closer to goal and the ball was coming to his stronger foot. The finish was shite but surely no one thinks that ball should have been left for Kagawa.
 
@dsch Thanks for posting the video.

Looks like he is getting quality playing time. He's taking corners and free kicks. He's getting on the ball and not trying to do too much dribbling alone. He pauses more intelligently than he did last season. He waits for runners to shift the defense rather than allowing the defense to square up while he plans a dribble. Basically, he's better plugged in with what's happening in that match than he was last season.
 
@dsch Thanks for posting the video.

Looks like he is getting quality playing time. He's taking corners and free kicks. He's getting on the ball and not trying to do too much dribbling alone. He pauses more intelligently than he did last season. He waits for runners to shift the defense rather than allowing the defense to square up while he plans a dribble. Basically, he's better plugged in with what's happening in that match than he was last season.
Oh, I can't take credit. @JohnnyLaw posted it.
 
@dsch Thanks for posting the video.

Looks like he is getting quality playing time. He's taking corners and free kicks. He's getting on the ball and not trying to do too much dribbling alone. He pauses more intelligently than he did last season. He waits for runners to shift the defense rather than allowing the defense to square up while he plans a dribble. Basically, he's better plugged in with what's happening in that match than he was last season.

I think he's a Fergie type of player, give him free reign and he can do magic. Ask him to plug away at a boring formula, like with LVG, and he becomes average.
 
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