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I think LVG's issue with Adnan is you have no idea what the boy is going to do. I mean we know what Nearly every other player does from Rooney looking right for the cross field ball to valencia using his one trick to try and find a crossing angle for a pacy shot/cross. All things LVG can measure against his philosophy and ideas of where people should be and what they will be doing. This lad its in the lap of the gods. And so far thats not seemingly ok with LVG.
I'm not saying he's physically jaded. Just that it can be good for a young player who's struggling to live up to the hype to be taken out of the spotlight for a while.
I would like to pick you up on this physical bit. I believe he's a very big talent and 10-15 years ago he would probably been seen as a more dominant player. Today even the average skilled players have such good physics that they are able to recover from a step over. A top player also need to have an elite body to fully dominate the game. I think Ronaldo and Bale are cleare examples of that. If Januzaj would man up a bit he could change the scene. His physics today is very weak and he will probably look like that all his career unless he's put under a tough program. I don't understand why the coaches are not bothered by this fact.
Considering he broke the PL transfer record to sign a player who's every bit as unpredictable that shouldn't be a deal-breaker.
Anyway, as I said a while back. The main reason Januzaj isn't playing is the 352 formation. Just doesn't fit any of the positions apart from the one occupied by Mata (or Rooney) and he's nowhere near ready to oust either of them. If we play a bit more 433 in the second half of the season he should get more games. If we don't, well, Januzaj is the least of our worries!
I would like to pick you up on this physical bit. I believe he's a very big talent and 10-15 years ago he would probably been seen as a more dominant player. Today even the average skilled players have such good physics that they are able to recover from a step over. A top player also need to have an elite body to fully dominate the game. I think Ronaldo and Bale are cleare examples of that. If Januzaj would man up a bit he could change the scene. His physics today is very weak and he will probably look like that all his career unless he's put under a tough program. I don't understand why the coaches are not bothered by this fact.
Surely you realise by now 3 5 2 is our system even when we have players fit to move off this....the evidence is there.
No, I'd say it's a valid suggestion.Might be considered blasphemous here, I know. But what if . . . he just isn't actually *that* good?
I'm not necessarily saying this is my opinion - frankly, I haven't seen enough of him to judge. I have, however, seen every game he's played for the United senior side. And i've seen him do a lot of good stuff - score great goals, produce breathtaking moments of individual skill based on his dribbling ability and balance, clever little passes, taking games by the scruff of the neck. But i've never seen him do it over a sustained period, where you are left in no doubt that this is an amazing player you're watching.
I've also seen a lot of average to poor performances from him, especially over the last 6-12 months. Mishitting crosses frequently, floating around on the periphery of games, making bad decisions. Much of this could be put down to him being young and inconsistent, as most young players except the odd few freaks are.
There is also the possibility, though, that he won't turn out to be the world class - or even United class - talent some tout him as, and that his contribution last season was overstated as people desperately tried to search for positives amidst the sea of gloom.
</devils advocate>
Nah, his comments today make me think he's willing to try different systems.
We havent had a chance to put him on an extreme strength program. Its normally done in the summer but he was away with Belgium last summer and didnt do the pre season with us. I think his lack of a pre season this year has gone against him as well as its meant he wasnt able to hit the ground running like he was last year. Its easy to say he should have caught up by now but there are countless examples of players having poor seasons after missing out on pre seasonI would like to pick you up on this physical bit. I believe he's a very big talent and 10-15 years ago he would probably been seen as a more dominant player. Today even the average skilled players have such good physics that they are able to recover from a step over. A top player also need to have an elite body to fully dominate the game. I think Ronaldo and Bale are cleare examples of that. If Januzaj would man up a bit he could change the scene. His physics today is very weak and he will probably look like that all his career unless he's put under a tough program. I don't understand why the coaches are not bothered by this fact.
I'm guessing you don't remember Ronaldo's physique at the same age?
We havent had a chance to put him on an extreme strength program. Its normally done in the summer but he was away with Belgium last summer and didnt do the pre season with us. I think his lack of a pre season this year has gone against him as well as its meant he wasnt able to hit the ground running like he was last year. Its easy to say he should have caught up by now but there are countless examples of players having poor seasons after missing out on pre season
I dunno, countless examples of great players playing today who are of a similar build.
Do you have any players in mind? Messi is not a beast but on the other hand his other skills are enormous + he's got acceptable physics now that he's a +25 year old player.
Silva ? Mata ? Fabregas ? Iniesta ? Going few years back Xavi, Scholes.
RVP wasn't really a great athelete either. Then Suarez is terms of strength.
Can go on..
Not getting your point here.
That's what I'm saying. Ronaldo was really good but weak. He later on developed a great physics and he also took his game to a new lever because of that. I never said Januzaij couldn't change his physics - i'm just saying it won't happen unless he actually try to do it.
You can add Reus to that list. Or, going back a few years, Kaka. Or how about someone Van Gaal will remember well. Johann Cruyf?
Not every great footballer needs to be built like a brick shit-house.
Wtf are they doing in the classroom learning physics? Get out onto the pitch I say.That's what I'm saying. Ronaldo was really good but weak. He later on developed a great physics and he also took his game to a new lever because of that. I never said Januzaij couldn't change his physics - i'm just saying it won't happen unless he actually try to do it.
Yes but Custis wrote this week that Januzaj would be sold, which may have annoyed Van Gaal understandably.Sorry Louis... but the fans kind of are.
Yes but Custis wrote this week that Januzaj would be sold, which may have annoyed Van Gaal understandably.
Yeah totally. Its silly how much importance some people place on stats in football, this being a prime example. There are so many intangibles involved. Januzaj has scored 4 EPL goals to Zaha 1 so yeah...
...spot the horseshit. Did you actually watch him play last season?
Might be considered blasphemous here, I know. But what if . . . he just isn't actually *that* good?
I'm not necessarily saying this is my opinion - frankly, I haven't seen enough of him to judge. I have, however, seen every game he's played for the United senior side. And i've seen him do a lot of good stuff - score great goals, produce breathtaking moments of individual skill based on his dribbling ability and balance, clever little passes, taking games by the scruff of the neck. But i've never seen him do it over a sustained period, where you are left in no doubt that this is an amazing player you're watching.
I've also seen a lot of average to poor performances from him, especially over the last 6-12 months. Mishitting crosses frequently, floating around on the periphery of games, making bad decisions. Much of this could be put down to him being young and inconsistent, as most young players except the odd few freaks are.
There is also the possibility, though, that he won't turn out to be the world class - or even United class - talent some tout him as, and that his contribution last season was overstated as people desperately tried to search for positives amidst the sea of gloom.
</devils advocate>
Well, an improvement over last game. Not only was he on the bench, but he got a hug from Fellaini as well. Baby steps. Maybe one day he'll even get minutes on the pitch!
Yeah you can't really blame him for januzaj not featuring this season. The kid has no confidence whatsoever. But I did think lvg would allow for our attacking players to express themselves more which hasn't been the case. There's a lot of shackles right now. Once the team plays with more freedom I can see the likes pf januzaj playing better too. Obviously he needs tp get his belief back either way.:leavebritneyalonegif:
Amazing the way young players bring out so many caftards inner drama queen. He's not the first young player to have a bad season after a good one (bad half season, to be precise) and he won't be the last. Loads of examples under loads of managers, including Fergie himself. Most high profile recent example would be Sterling at Liverpool. A bit of time off is the best response.
There's plenty of reasons to have a go at Van Gaal for events on the pitch this season but let's not lose the run of ourselves here. This really isn't that big a deal.
A gentle reminder.
I have no doubts he will. You don't lose ability like that over night. He just needs a few chances, he will be alright.Stunning talent. Makes football look easy. Him and di maria both in form in one side would be great. Realy hope he gets his mojo back soon.
I'd give him games here and there. The payoff with januzaj getting it right will be huge.I have no doubts he will. You don't lose ability like that over night. He just needs a few chances, he will be alright.
A gentle reminder.
At his age, Ronaldo was playing pretty regularly for United, scoring goals etc. He's not another Ronaldo. He's a good player but he'll come nowhere close to having his career.I don't know how anyone could have watched him and not rate him or think "maybe he isn't just that good". At his age, where was Ronaldo. What people fail to understand is that young players have that inconsistency about them, LVG has his reasons for not playing him, and I'd wager that it has nothing to do with quality, because he has it. We have this tendency to underrate our own at times, it's annoying, he's good enough and will get better.
