There shouldn't be a hard decision if van Gaal has a reputation of developing young talent and giving them a fair chance. We don't have a more talented youngster than him right now.
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There shouldn't be a hard decision if van Gaal has a reputation of developing young talent and giving them a fair chance. We don't have a more talented youngster than him right now.
Frankly, LVG would struggle to survive the backlash from the fans if he sold Januzaj.
Exactly. He can put up with it from one player, but not two. Especially when he's already overworking Carrick and Rooney to begin with.
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I was indifferent to his sale, but right now I rather saw Welbeck fumble the ball than Falcao. Falcao has a horrible first touch and isn't the quickest, if not anything Welbeck's pace would have been beneficial in the formation that we have played. It doesn't look like Wilson is ready yet.
I meant Michael Keane, he could have been a good back-up CB and also could have played RB.
Adnan hasn't been given a chance to find consistency. It has been 5 minutes here, 10 there, and each time in a different position on the field. He has been one of the biggest casualties under VG.
It would be utterly daft to let go of such a brilliant talent.
Yep. If we sell him it will hugely change my opinion on LVG and no one will be able to convince me that's an overreacting
He'd survive the backlash because I'm not sure there would be any real backlash over selling a kid. But it would be a completely and utterly daft thing to do if he did do it. Januzaj could well turn out to be a player we'd be happy spending 30-40 million to sign in 3-4 years.
He's not getting time on the pitch at the moment because 3-5-2 and 4-1-2-1-2 doesn't require wingers, not because he isnt good enough. Mata and Rooney are way ahead of him in the hole and he doesn't have the discipline to play as a wingback. Loan would be a good option for him.
Would be a great option in 4-3-3 though wouldn't he? If LvG ever returns to his supposed 'favourite' formation, Adnan will get plenty of opportunity.
Definitely won't be sold, but a loan could be good for him.. as said he needs games at this age
Definitely won't be sold, but a loan could be good for him.. as said he needs games at this age
Sad it at the start of the season, dont think Januzaj will really come good under LVG, because of his possession based football. It's so slow, once our attackers get the ball, they are immediately surrounded by defenders and have no where to go, they just pass it back or lose the ball, di Maria has been struggling with the same thing. Last season, Januzaj got space to roam, got space to dazzle past defenders and do his thing, but what we are doing now, just doesnt suit him at all.
I think last year he wouldn't have stood out, but this year he seems to have forgotten how to play. I think he needs to maybe tone the dribbling down a tad and work on his movement more as he is coming up against bigger and faster fullbacks than he is used too. His touch has looked a bit sloppy recently which when marked tight he has lost the ball a lot. Hope he can regain that spark he had last year.
Him and di Maria in a 433 would allow both of them to cut inside. It would present a double threat on either flank, with them able to knock in crosses or cut inside - with the threat of overlapping full backs. I just find it strange that Januzaj isn't getting a look in at all.
We played 4-3-3 a few times this season with Januzaj on the wing, but that was when Falcao and RVP weren't both fit. When they're fit we'll always play at least 2 strikers just for the sake of them being world class players and playing.
We could've played a 4-3-3 against Southampton, but instead played Di Maria as the second striker.
I just hope we return to playing 4-3-3 or at least 4-1-2-1-2. People say the lack of a good centre-back prevents LVG from playing four at the back, but our performances with the 5-1-2-2 are terrible and clearly LVG should know that. So he has about 2 weeks left to bring in a centre-back he thinks is good enough.
We need him to play more. We have no exciting young player in the team now, someone to hype and overrate, that has the potential to be one of the best. That is very important, imo, especially at a club like ours, who prides itself into making top players, not only buying them.
So you'd like to go back to last year when we gave him plenty of game time and ended up in 7th place??
He just hasn't done enough to warrant more time period. The time he does get he just hasn't been doing enough with
We need to play 4-2-3-1 with 3 floating around. The 4-3-3 we played with fixed wingers neither helped Di Maria or Januzaj.
Biggest disappointment of the season so far for me. After the way he broke into the team last season and almost became one of our most influential players until the end of the season where he looked like he needed a rest, he's reached a point where everyone's wondering if he even has a future at the club anymore. 
Firstly it's not like all established players been all guns firing. Infact RVP had a way worse spell and DI Maria has been worse wide. Januzaj is inconsistent but he needs playing time for now and for future investment.
Secondly, how about going back to the year before where we won the title playing many ?
Biggest disappointment of the season so far for me. After the way he broke into the team last season and almost became one of our most influential players until the end of the season where he looked like he needed a rest, he's reached a point where everyone's wondering if he even has a future at the club anymore.
He's played about 400 minute in total much of that as a sub or in weird positions in diff formations.
If Someone is writing off such a talented a 19 year old based on that then what to say....
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Biggest disappointment of the season so far for me. After the way he broke into the team last season and almost became one of our most influential players until the end of the season where he looked like he needed a rest, he's reached a point where everyone's wondering if he even has a future at the club anymore.
He'll come good. You'll see
I agree with your sentiment but disagree with your way of expressing yourself. Adnan's been disappointing but to think he has no future here is ridiculous. Especially when we've played the 352 so much, which has put the reins on generally great attacking players besides Januzaj.
Surely a loan deal would suit everyone at this point, selling him would be a massive mistake.
Talksport reporting he is going alone. Not really reliable but thought I would share.
I'm sorry, I forgot it was his fault we finished 7th...
Going on loan strikes me as the most sensible option for him right now. He's clearly talented, but with the array of attackers we have he's going to struggle for substantial game time. A spell at a club in a top league (either here or elsewhere) would hopefully be beneficial to him.
My worry is that even when he returns, we may still have a lot of attacking players to fit into the team. I struggle to see where he'd go in LVG's 3-5-2 system, but even if we don't persist with that, he's still going to be competing for players like Mata and Di Maria. Still young though, so that's a major positive.
My worry is that even when he returns, we may still have a lot of attacking players to fit into the team. I struggle to see where he'd go in LVG's 3-5-2 system, but even if we don't persist with that, he's still going to be competing for players like Mata and Di Maria. Still young though, so that's a major positive.
so because an 18 year old was one of our top three players last year, that's HIS fault AND the reason why we finished in 7th?
you're not that daft, smarten up.
Cream rising to the top:
On a dairy farm, after the milk is 'taken' from the cows, it is usually put into a bucket of bulk tank - depending upon the size of the farm and how much milk. After the milk sits in a refrigerated container, the cream (Januzaj) separates itself and floats on top of the milk.
When someone says 'cream rises to the top,' it means that someone who is exceptionally good will distinguish himself from others and be noticed.
The best usually stands out in a crowd.
This lady who goes by the name of 'copper'who gave this answer to the meaning of 'cream rising to the top' says it best!!!!
We're struggling to create and lack penetration and he's languishing there on the bench. I think our management isn't handling our best young talent very well. He has what we might be looking for in Depay or Reus, but he can't get a game here...I think we'll be a more creative team in a 4-3-3 with him, Rooney and Di Maria as the front 3.
Players get better when they're are not in the team, although I think he deserves more chances this season, when hes been in the team hes not been very good (except from the Chelsea game) and thats why he isn't getting many chances.
Wilson is getting more games, and I can't remember him doing anything of note. I think it's deeper than "hasn't played well , so isn't playing".
Wilson has been getting games because Falcao was injured though
So hes not allowed to go on loan, but he's not allowed to go anywhere near the pitch either. Great development of our best young talent, that.
I think the supporters need to sing his song over and over again next match. Ring it through LVG's ears.
I think the supporters need to sing his song over and over again next match. Ring it through LVG's ears.
I think Januzaj has actually played one more game than wilson this season
Neither have overly impressed. Maybe Wilson has shown more in training?
He's had what, 3 starts? Chelsea, good, by your own admission. West Brom - poor. City, brought off after 30 minutes because we'd gone down to 10 men.
Plus a few short sub appearances, none in his main position and almost all in games where United have been generally dire are hardly enough to judge merit on, right?
Indeed. Januzaj's actually had almost twice as many PL minutes as Wilson (435 vs 273) so let's nip this "Wilson's played more than Januzaj" crap in the bud.
Training aside, I think Wilson's been slightly better in competitive games. They've both been fairly ineffective but Januzaj has really been quite crap.
He started in the game I went to, at home to Palace and he was shocking
I don't understand why he doesn't come on and help stretch teams when we need a goal. He offers a wide outlet.
He often does though (comes off the bench, or at least he was), and he often does nothing. When he is one on one with the fullback, he just gets jockied, and either wins a corner (plays his cross against the defender) or comes back and plays the ball backwards/inside.
I think he also started vs Palace and was complete shite.
Anyway like I said in my post, I think he deserves to play a bit more, but people need to calm down and stop acting like when he has played he has been playing well.
When he comes on as a sub, usually he has been very poor, if he wants to break back into the team he has to do better.
Aye, he did start that one. Admittedly, it was another to add to the list of games where we were utter shite in general though. For the games he's been poor in (2 starts), so has everyone.. but they've had plenty other opportunity.
Equally, apart from a lot of huffing and hard work (not all his fault, admittedly), has Wilson been particularly good when he's come on as a sub? And yet he's had a lot more time. Or atleast, he's had a more consistent run in how he has been used. Januzaj has come on, sometimes in the last few minutes, and otherwise never in his actual position.
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