Would we really be surprised? It'd just be the latest in utterly mindless decisions over the last couple of years.
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Giggs surely has some control, and I'd imagine he'd see to it Januzaj isn't sold. We were criticized last summer for losing our identity, and it'd be hard to disagree with that sentiment should we sell Januzaj to be honest.
Still don't see it happening, he's one of the few players we possess you feel can produce a moment of magic at any given time. The current system does not suit him, but I'm hoping we'll see a more familiar shape implemented once a competent defence is acquired.
Still don't see it happening, he's one of the few players we possess you feel can produce a moment of magic at any given time. The current system does not suit him, but I'm hoping we'll see a more familiar shape implemented once a competent defence is acquired.
Really sad how this kid isnt getting a chance, him and now di maria are our only players who have the balls to take on players, I remember in that dour last season, there where a few times when Januzaj would beat his man with pace or dribbling, and then beat a second, was some exciting stuff to watch
Now its like he doesnt exist
Now its like he doesnt exist
LVG comes in, buys a bunch of overrated stars, sells two of our best homegrown players, fails to get top4 and gets sacked at the end of the season 
Both Welbeck and Keane could have been useful for us this season, instead we decided to sell them. And now reports (though unconfirmed) on Januzaj leaving.
Sounds about right for a "Post Sir Alex Manchester United".
Sounds about right for a "Post Sir Alex Manchester United".
No chance will he be sold, none at all. We aren't complete idiots.
but a lot of LvG's decisions have been quite questionable. And I don't think Giggs is a good judge of talent, other than the glaringly obvious
Go on, please tell me your reasoning behind this?
There os a very negative perception on the Caf about Giggs in general, may I know why?
it is based on the very sound bites i have heard from him, as well as the stupid video they did when he was the manager.
also i would think he was involved in our decisions to get rid/loan Nani, Welbeck
so nothing really solid to go on, just a hunch
In our next cup game I'd live to see him playing behind Rooney as number 10 but likely won't happen.
If Januzaj is lucky, he'll come on for the final 10 minutes and play as a wing back or maybe it will be as a CM this time.
Silky touch, good dribble, excellent vision and creative passing means you should be a number 10. Adnan has all of that. In England you need that explosive speed and power to be winger and Adnan doesn't have that.
Maybe the coaching staff doesn't want to give him too much responsibility at such a young age hence playing him on the wing.
Maybe the coaching staff doesn't want to give him too much responsibility at such a young age hence playing him on the wing.
We don't play with wingers and Adnan is behind Rooney and Mata for the #10 position. He isn't a wingback either so he just doesn't fit in the team right now. I've had no problems with the players LvG has sold because ultimately they just weren't good enough as form at their new clubs has shown. But I'd be extremely disappointed in we actually sold Januzaj. He was wanted by a host of top clubs for a reason. No doubt he'll be a top player eventually. Have a bad feeling that it won't be at Old Trafford.
LVG has said he's our player and he's not going anywhere.Not sure why we should take words from those tabloids more serious than his.
He needs a run of games. He could inject some much needed pace.
Would be mighty ironic if the manager most famed for "juice", gets one of United's best youngsters in years sold under his nose.
I’d be gutted if we can’t keep him. He’s only 19 and proved last year that he could play a part in a team if well surrounded. This year I thought he was good before his confidence felt. LVG seems not be impressed with him, but I think that it will be a mistake selling him this summer.
I want to keep him, LVG should give him a run of game
I want to keep him, LVG should give him a run of game
Firstly I don't think LvG would sell him. That said, however, I am concerned about the way he's been handled this season. A loan with Moyes might not be the worst thing in the world.
Where and how would they have played? Welbeck would have just about fumbled with the ball while Keane has regressed badly since his injury.
As far as Adnan is concerned, don't think we would really sell him or send him on loan. It's just that there are too many players about in the attacking front, and of course you would want to play them instead of Adnan, given that he has been so inconsistent this season.
Both Neville bros. rate him highly.
I am sure Giggs does too. But Van Gaal is strange and let's players decide IIRC.
I am sure Giggs does too. But Van Gaal is strange and let's players decide IIRC.
WOODWARD should just overrule LVG if he wants to sell and loan him.
He is on 5 year contract. Makes no sense from club perspective to sell.
When did he say this?
Just a query, do you think LVG was expecting, or led to expect better from him?
His reputation grew and flourished so quickly that it was the clear beacon of hope in a very tumescent and disastrous season. Could this have led to his demise by being naturally inflated above his actual level? Sterling suffered a similar 2nd season experience. Bale took time to reassert himself after a 50 match no-winning streak at Spurs. Countless other experiences of players suffering dips.
Sunderland away match and West Ham at home were the only 2 matches in which his goals had a direct impact on the results. His other league goal came at the end of a drubbing vs Newcastle. While there would have been hugely promising moments along the way in other matches, the reputation he developed was so high that he was seen as our saviour and the man to stop Moyes facing the sack. Clearly too much, too soon in hindsight.
Just wondering what your thoughts are lads on this - is the boom reputation from a terrible season the enemy here?
His reputation grew and flourished so quickly that it was the clear beacon of hope in a very tumescent and disastrous season. Could this have led to his demise by being naturally inflated above his actual level? Sterling suffered a similar 2nd season experience. Bale took time to reassert himself after a 50 match no-winning streak at Spurs. Countless other experiences of players suffering dips.
Sunderland away match and West Ham at home were the only 2 matches in which his goals had a direct impact on the results. His other league goal came at the end of a drubbing vs Newcastle. While there would have been hugely promising moments along the way in other matches, the reputation he developed was so high that he was seen as our saviour and the man to stop Moyes facing the sack. Clearly too much, too soon in hindsight.
Just wondering what your thoughts are lads on this - is the boom reputation from a terrible season the enemy here?
you can say the same about taking what managers say as 100% true
If this is true then I'm really not liking our transfer business in the January window. He's one of our only wingers with decent pace and invention. Yes he hasn't been great this season but he should have had more games and if we're going to play a 4-3-3 surely we need him? I for one hope this is false it will be a shame to see him go on loan even though it could benefit him.
Januzaj is not fast - lets dispel that myth.
He has decent acceleration in the first 3 yards which helps, but he's not a quick player, so he's not really suited to playing on the wing.
A loan for the 2nd half of the season would be a good thing for him imo - needs to be playing games.
He has decent acceleration in the first 3 yards which helps, but he's not a quick player, so he's not really suited to playing on the wing.
A loan for the 2nd half of the season would be a good thing for him imo - needs to be playing games.
No point in Woodward blocking a loan move. If the manager isn't going to play him, it's best for his development if he goes on loan and gets regular games. I originally hoped he would stay and play but he isn't really playing and he'll end up stagnating at a crucial stage of his development where he should be kicking on. He has real ability.
The problem here is that, at the moment, the formations we play don't really allow for him. Not without dropping either a mainstay of the team or a very expensive player like Mata.
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Looks like LVG sees him more as a winger. It's unfortunate for him that we didn't use wingers much this season, because whenever we did he started.
Maybe vs QPR if RVP is out we might do it, but we all know it's gonna be 352 again...
Maybe vs QPR if RVP is out we might do it, but we all know it's gonna be 352 again...
We could easily incorporate him in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3, just play rooney up top on his own. We'd be much better off for it I think. Di maria, rooney, januzaj/mata up top, herrera/mata, Carrick, blind in midfield. Rotate the striker with rooney/rvp and rooney can push back in midfield too depending on form and injuries. Hopefully we switch to a formation like that so we can use him, as the 35-2 is shite regardless.
Yeah that's what i meant. Woody should block permanent move and loan him.
If we somehow revert back to 4 at the back we'll need him as our only other winger who can take people on, so as not to be completely reliant on a diamond system. Would love to see him and di Maria on the wings with 3 actual midfielders (Herrera, Blind and Carrick) with a sole striker in the striker position.
The problem is that he's not really a winger either, or at least not in the way Gaal likes his wingers to perform. Januzaj needs freedom to go inside. Asking him to just dribble past players is just asking for trouble, because that's not his game. He only really started to dribble a lot last season anyways.
Personally, I find it a bit weird to see Januzaj just stand out wide waiting for the ball to come to him. I was always so used to him going towards the ball and just floating all over the pitch. I'm sure anyone that watched him at youth level would agree with me.
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I can see why van Gaal doesn't like him with the way we currently play. It's all about possession, playing the safe pass and patiently building our play up for a chance. That's not Januzaj's style and it isn't di Maria's either.
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Want him to succeed here badly without spending tens of millions on players but we have to prepare for the worst, too.
He needs games like every other footballer. Loan sounds like a logical thing to do but after he rejected supposedly massive offer from Ligue 1, it's hard not to appreciate his desire and loyalty in such young age.
Just another hard decision to make for new boss.
He needs games like every other footballer. Loan sounds like a logical thing to do but after he rejected supposedly massive offer from Ligue 1, it's hard not to appreciate his desire and loyalty in such young age.
Just another hard decision to make for new boss.
Loan him to Everton to get Coleman, or PSG Marquinhos, everyone's a winner.
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