Your point...?
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Your point...?
The point I m trying to make is he is not overrated because many people here think he is.
Obviously it wont happen, but imagine Johnson on the right and Bale on the left, a muppet christmas?
Why would we want Johnson on the right when we already have a comfortably superior player there in Nani?
I said he's overrated by some people. A certain type of poster. I didn't simply say he's overrated.
Cows, fields, etc.
Johnson showing today why Mancini's been reluctant to play him - he's got the quality to be a matchwinner but he needs to realise he can't be a matchwinner with every touch. Along with him being lazy defensively it's not hard to see where Mancini's coming from.
He was extremely poor when he came on. Was so greedy and his end product which is usually pretty good was shocking tonight.
Nah it was only his introduction that sparked City to life. He even made the goal. He did lose the impetus after having to cover at right back for Zabaleta needing treatment yet again, but without him City werent getting anything. They need him on the pitch because he tries the difficult things and sometimes they do come off. They've come off plenty of times already during his City career. And he always has more of an impact than Mr. Smack the ball straight at the first defender as often as possible, failing that straight at the keeper or wide
Saying all that id start him over Ballothrowastrop every week, at least he looks like making something happen.
City do not have any good English players.
I just don't know how Milner plays....
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He dosnt.
Play football.
Play football.
You sure? Because Milner was playing central midfield. Where a lot of posters said he could take over from Scholes. You didnt think he was amazing?
Should start over Milner tho?
Made the goal? He completely fluffed his chance and had to get Toure to make up for it.
Never rated Johnson as highly as some do, along with Hart.
Who said that?
He was awful today. Really bad.
Wow, go and watch it again.
He plays a reverse pass just like Silva before him.
I'm not sure he intentionally plays it so perfectly it goes right into Toure's path and he can get the shot away so soon, but he clearly absolutely passes the ball.
Plenty of posters driving the campaign for us to sign him last summer. Course I doubt any of them will stand for what they spoke and admit it now
He was just passing the buck cos he'd fecked up everything else before that
No absolutely, he passed the ball. It's just he passed the ball because he fecked up first time round, so I don't really think he deserves much credit for a 2-yard recovery pass. Chances are he was going to shoot first time round given his selfishness throughout - although to be fair to him he may well have scored it. 'twas just a bad touch.
Alright then perhaps you'd like to stick one way or the other.
Was Johnson passing the buck because he was afraid to shoot, or was he trying to be the match winner too often ?
He cant have been doing both
He was trying to grab the game by the scruff of the neck as he has done before, and as someone in his side needed to. The rest of his side had clearly failed at it. He had plenty of efforts to change the course of the match, but in that particular phase of play he spotted that Toure had a clearer path towards goal so he passed the ball.
Course if he rainbow flicked the ball and scissor kicked it into the top corner, several people would find a fault with that. Greedy git
Was Johnson passing the buck because he was afraid to shoot, or was he trying to be the match winner too often ?
He cant have been doing both
He was trying to grab the game by the scruff of the neck as he has done before, and as someone in his side needed to. The rest of his side had clearly failed at it. He had plenty of efforts to change the course of the match, but in that particular phase of play he spotted that Toure had a clearer path towards goal so he passed the ball.
Course if he rainbow flicked the ball and scissor kicked it into the top corner, several people would find a fault with that. Greedy git
The 2 yard pass that sets up the, albeit fairly lucky, strike that ends up in the back of the net?
Come on if it was another player you'd be giving plenty of credit for a 2 yard pass that opened things up for an oppertunity like that. In close quarters its very easy to mess it up and he didnt
Silva's pass in the build-up was the only one worthy of praise.
Silva is class
Honestly it's something I'd expect from Zabaleta not Johnson.
Agree with Brwned on this one
If that was Silva or Berbatov's pass and I said it was just a 2 yard pass, you'd pull me up on it without question.
Heh, I genuinely don't think I would've! If Johnson had taken a great first touch, drawn a couple of defenders towards him and then slipped it to Toure in a bit of space then it's a nice bit of play, but it looked to me like he miscontrolled it and then saved his blushes by giving it to Toure.
I was half-expecting Johnson to guide it into the far corner and it looked like that was what he was going for, he just messed up. I probably have a bit of a blind-spot with Johnson but I don't think I'm being overly harsh here.
Agree to disagree I guess!
I was half-expecting Johnson to guide it into the far corner and it looked like that was what he was going for, he just messed up. I probably have a bit of a blind-spot with Johnson but I don't think I'm being overly harsh here.
Agree to disagree I guess!
Johnson was crap but not as bad as his fellow England internationals Barry and Milner.
How on earth are Barry and Milner internationals? how does this country let this happen? we're a laughing stock.
I can remember having to put up an argument for Nani as he tries difficult things that only come off a percentage of the time. I can remember having to put up an argument to suggest that one of Nani's backheels to set up a goal was actually intentional because there were people who didnt want to believe it saying it was luck or a fluke. Unfavoured players have to do more to get any respect at all.
Course I dont remember having those conversations with you Brwned, I'm not suggesting thats the case. I just think its the same thing, player has lots of posters who dont rate him so they refuse to appreciate the good things he does even when they witness it themselves. And only doing it week in week out on bigger stages again and again is going to convince them. Like Nani eventually did.
Check the goal once again
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He picks up a fantastic position receives the ball, waits for the right moment and then passes as someone with good intelligence will do if they feel its the better option. It wasnt a long pass and if he had got it even a little bit wrong he could have looked stupid because it was a difficult thing to do properly without the move losing momentum.
But given City's biggest problem all game was creating space for a strike on goal beyond flying blocking challenges, the fact Johnson had the composure and ability to get the pass right instead of going for glory himself like he might have done on another occasion, deserves not to be put down.
Course I dont remember having those conversations with you Brwned, I'm not suggesting thats the case. I just think its the same thing, player has lots of posters who dont rate him so they refuse to appreciate the good things he does even when they witness it themselves. And only doing it week in week out on bigger stages again and again is going to convince them. Like Nani eventually did.
Check the goal once again
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He picks up a fantastic position receives the ball, waits for the right moment and then passes as someone with good intelligence will do if they feel its the better option. It wasnt a long pass and if he had got it even a little bit wrong he could have looked stupid because it was a difficult thing to do properly without the move losing momentum.
But given City's biggest problem all game was creating space for a strike on goal beyond flying blocking challenges, the fact Johnson had the composure and ability to get the pass right instead of going for glory himself like he might have done on another occasion, deserves not to be put down.
Fair play, he was clearly looking for the shot first time round but picked Toure out well once he realised the shot wasn't on. Didn't miscontrol it at all. He did get in the way of the pass (watch Silva's reaction, he went for the one-two) but that's irrelevant really.
Was a decent assist, I misremembered!
Was a decent assist, I misremembered!
Agreed.
Now shall we talk about how his arrival on the pitch coincided with City putting the most pressure on Everton that they managed all game?
As I said before, Johnson did fade after the initial burst and having to fill in at right back. But as far as I'm concerned City were getting nowhere without him and found another level in the period after bringing him on.
They got the goal, Balotelli hit the post and then Moyes and Everton recovered well and City as a whole force faded at the end.
He injected a bit of something different going forward, and it's something he'll always give you, but he was so wasteful that I don't really think his influence on the game was a positive one overall, and I don't think Mancini'd have been happy with him.
He was no more wasteful than Balotelli, Silva or Kholorov
Some good ball running after just coming on, good set up for Toure, poor cross, unlucky shot just too high
Beats missing a one on one or having what 10 shots straight at defenders and straight at the keeper. Balotelli was obviously unlucky but a miss is a miss.
Some good ball running after just coming on, good set up for Toure, poor cross, unlucky shot just too high
Beats missing a one on one or having what 10 shots straight at defenders and straight at the keeper. Balotelli was obviously unlucky but a miss is a miss.
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