Aaron Wan-Bissaka | The Ornacle speaks: It is done.

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Once Simon Stone becomes involved I tend to pay more attention and believe into things, I’ve seen in a lot of places this morning we’re meant to be meeting with Palace today to thrash it out and conclude so fingers crossed and we can finally move on to the next position to fill/upgrade.
 
£50m guaranteed and also waiving the 20% clause in Zaha's contract is getting fecked over.
Which we haven't agreed to?
Again these deals are nothing alike. You're creating a pattern which doesn't exist.
 
Which we haven't agreed to?
Again these deals are nothing alike. You're creating a pattern which doesn't exist.
The pattern has been created by the club tbf by overpaying on a number of players in the last 6 years.

The deals are nothing alike that's true. Sanchez was considered a world class performer with several seasons under his belt with a rival club also strongly in for him. Wan Bissaka was sent packing from lowly Cambridge last year and is worth £50m in such a short space of time?

We should walk from this deal like we did with Morata a few years back.
 
87 pages on the Caf and Ed is still chinwagging on this deal. I think he is dragging it out so he misses out on other deals so he gets a massive bonus for not spending too much in the window.
 
Could we not throw 120 mil at them for Zaha and AWB?
This would sort out our right side.
I no Zaha has been playing on the left for the last year but he is just as devastating on the right.
This would allow us to give Martial one more season to prove his worth before we sign Sancho next season for RW and can move Zaha to the left.

Master Plan.
 
One mustn't forget we signed Sanchez as well. The trouble with Mourinho is that most of his signings proved to be expensive crap. Also instead of changing his ways, he kept insisting on strengthening the same positions again and again often aiming towards older players who provided little to no value. As said there's a reason why Inter opted for their sworn enemy (imagine United signing Gerrard or Suarez) then their legend. The guy lost it.

And yes, we're a stupid club. However stopping financing this idiot was not one of those mistakes. Actually the big mistake was keeping him.

Woodward was the big reason we had a terrible last season. Jose should not have been given a contract extension and if you are giving him one then back him properly. Last season's summer transfer was a huge mess and no one was a winner, neither the club nor Woodward nor Jose. It was a poorly planned summer.
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all if this ends up being a smokescreen. Bit like the Lukaku/Morata saga 2 summers ago. Why would we brief the press we are having meetings and trying to sort out details in the open? Hope I am wrong as the guy is a great player but all smells a bit to much of a last minute smoke screen and we sign someone else.
 
United are preparing another offer with Palace braced for an improved bid within the next 48 hours. Or something like that.
 
Preparing to hear about us being bent over by Palace. Good player but cant see us getting lots more points this season because of him
 
Woodward was the big reason we had a terrible last season. Jose should not have been given a contract extension and if you are giving him one then back him properly. Last season's summer transfer was a huge mess and no one was a winner, neither the club nor Woodward nor Jose. It was a poorly planned summer.

I don't want to turn this thread in a Woodward vs Mourinho thing. However let me tell you one thing. I've been supporting United from birth really and I can't remember an instance when it wasn't stupid.

a- we refused to match Batigol's salary at FIORENTINA
b- we made Sir Alex BEG Graham to send him a copy of his contract so that the former can justify his salary increase demands
c- we forced Stam to renounce his signing on fee bonus else we wouldn't signed him
d- we then forced Sir Alex to sell a major player to balance the books (that player was Stam)
e- we took ages to sign Marcelo Salas only for Lazio (yep Lazio not Real, not Barcelona, not Juventus, not Bayern) to sign him up and made us look silly.
f- our major shareholders got in a fight with the most important man in the club's history, the hen that literally laid golden eggs because of a frigging horse.

The reason to that was always the same. We put business people ahead of the football persons to make football decisions. Edwards, Kenyon, Gill and now Woodward.

The only difference between then and now is that Sir Alex is gone. There's no one available who can clean up their mess, take all the heat himself (do you remember the 'Im happy with my squad' BS while playing Cleverley in midfield or frigging Blanc at the back?) and turn things around making them look good in the process. Our board of directors were always our version of Cersei with Sir Alex being our Tywin.

Having said that not supporting Mourinho was still the right thing. No manager, no matter how big he is, can keep asking the club to strengthen the same position again and again or force the club to spend money on rubbish with no sign of accountability whatsoever. That isn't normal. Which is why Mourinho was turned down by Inter who preferred Juventus legend to him. The guy is shot.
 
I hope the end of this saga is today, but talks for this long don't look too promising unless they have a case of wine.
 
I don't want to turn this thread in a Woodward vs Mourinho thing. However let me tell you one thing. I've been supporting United from birth really and I can't remember an instance when it wasn't stupid.

a- we refused to match Batigol's salary at FIORENTINA
b- we made Sir Alex BEG Graham to send him a copy of his contract so that the former can justify his salary increase demands
c- we forced Stam to renounce his signing on fee bonus else we wouldn't signed him
d- we then forced Sir Alex to sell a major player to balance the books (that player was Stam)
e- we took ages to sign Marcelo Salas only for Lazio (yep Lazio not Real, not Barcelona, not Juventus, not Bayern) to sign him up and made us look silly.
f- our major shareholders got in a fight with the most important man in the club's history, the hen that literally laid golden eggs because of a frigging horse.

The reason to that was always the same. We put business people ahead of the football persons to make football decisions. Edwards, Kenyon, Gill and now Woodward.

The only difference between then and now is that Sir Alex is gone. There's no one available who can clean up their mess, take all the heat himself (do you remember the 'Im happy with my squad' BS while playing Cleverley in midfield or frigging Blanc at the back?) and turn things around making them look good in the process. Our board of directors were always our version of Cersei with Sir Alex being our Tywin.

Having said that not supporting Mourinho was still the right thing. No manager, no matter how big he is, can keep asking the club to strengthen the same position again and again or force the club to spend money on rubbish with no sign of accountability whatsoever. That isn't normal. Which is why Mourinho was turned down by Inter who preferred Juventus legend to him. The guy is shot.

I don't give a crap about Jose and whether he signs for Inter or not. I also care little about Woodward and his stupid battle with Jose. Woodward may have done the right thing by not backing Jose last summer but it did absolutely nothing for this club and in fact we wasted the whole of last season and that is why we missed the CL spot too. The right thing would have been to not offer Jose any contract and just sack him and give a new manager a proper backing.

I care more about this club then Jose and Woody combined. The fact remains we needed strengthening in our defense which was not addressed last season and which is why we are required to buy a defender this season. It was a case of pathetic planning by the board led by Woodward.
 
It's extra frustrating because spurs have confirmed ndombele and city have confirmed rodri and Liverpool have confirmed several signings themselves

I get it but I feel there is, to put it mildly, a little bit more pressure on us to complete these deals and hopefully go someway to closing the gap.
 
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