Now that doesn't really sound like something that would happen to Lyanna, does it? IF GRRM does show it, I would imagine it to be consensual.
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Isn't running away with another female cheating on his wife? And if Rhaegar can cheat on his wife, what's to say he won't cheat on Lyanna?
And while polygamy was practiced by the Targs, it hasn't been practiced for centuries and since none of the other houses practice it, safe to say they never approved of the practice.
Presumably she had actually met both Robert and Rhaegar and decided that where one was a serial womaniser the other was a more thoughtful, romantic soul? Hardly unlikely given that's how the books have presented both of them.
Anyway, the idea that Lyanna wouldn't have liked him cheating on his wife is an argument in favour of the anullment/marriage plot line, not against. I mean I don't even think it's neccesary but......
Roasting Randyll and Dickon Tarly alive must be one of the most out of character things in the whole series, apart from not making any sense.
It's been implied at this point that Daenerys is taking a much more brutal path to be fair. I really thought it painted her in an awful light though - she isn't giving people a 'choice' when it's basically picking between fighting for her or being roasted alive.
This is my opinion too, the others and the NK can only go as far as winter spreads. So while Winter is here in the show. It's not yet the depths of winter which imho is when the WW can progress further to progress further. They need full on winter where everything looks like Greenland.
Has to be pre-Renaissance, so 14th century at the very latest, but I'd put it around the Crusading period of the 12th century.
I read some speculation - based on what? I don't know - that ASOIAF may finish with some kind of Magna Carta moment, which would be early 13th century.
She's quite clearly going down the same path as her father.
Finished ADWD for the second time last night. Just interested to know how everyone ranks the books? As intriguing as ADWD is, I think it's the worst of the lot - especially the second half of it is all over the place, no cohesion whatsoever with random characters being brought in with just one or two POV's, and Tyrion, Victarion and Barristan's stories lacking any kind of climactic ending. Despite it taking six years or whatever, it feels like it was rushed to publication.
Right now I'd go AGOT = ASOS, then ACOK, then AFFC, then ADWD.
Right now I'd go AGOT = ASOS, then ACOK, then AFFC, then ADWD.
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For me, ASOS > AGOT > ACOK > ADWD > AFFC. Your criticisms regarding Dance are completely spot on, and there are probably major portions of AFFC I like a lot more, but whereas some arcs in ADWD sort of reach a conclusion, AFFC basically feels like half a book. Both are a long way behind the first three though.
IIRC about 150 pages were cut from the manuscript, presumably that includes at least one Tyrion and/or Barristan/Vic POV, which would take us to just the brink of the Battle of Fire.
If you read it with Barristan I and II in TWOW then it does feel right. Dunno the reasoning behind the cut though.
Ranking wise I'd go ASOS>AGOT> ACOK, AFFC, ADWD. I always thought the 2nd book focused way too much on Tyrion at the detriment of other main characters (granted, KL was the most intriguing place at the time)
@JustAFan the parallel to Damascus steel is clear, the ripple marking, the eastern origin and the prized nature of those weapons, as well as the lost art of making them. Also, it's one hint to the historical period most closely resembles the books's, since Damascus steel was at its most desirable during the Crusades, despite reports of their superior quality being noted as early as the Hellenistic period.
AFFC would work somewhat better with the Jaime and Cersei chapters from ADWD. Not sure why Martin tagged them into ADWD, other than that he simply hadn't written them by the time AFFC needed to be published. Which begs the question though, why include them in ADWD at all? Why not just leave them for TWOW? I dunno, they just seem out of place in ADWD.
Presumably because we'd have to wait 12 years to know what they are doing?
I don't envy the editor's job tbh. The fat bastard must be hell to work around with his shifting schedule and frequent writer's block. When he was pumping out a book every two years none of those issues were present.
Presumably because we'd have to wait 12 years to know what they are doing?
I'm sure you long-time book readers have coped OK waiting to find out what happens with Alayne!ASOS > AGOT > ACOF >> ADWD > AFFC for me. ASOS is easily my favourite fantasy book.
It is far from clear. Bend the knee or die is pretty much omnipresent in these types of stories. Robert did pretty much the same.
She does seem a lot more brutal though.
I must be the only one who enjoyed AFFC and ADWD as much as the other books
Well, the first time I read them, I didn't like them all that much, but then I read everything from the start to the end.
Well, the first time I read them, I didn't like them all that much, but then I read everything from the start to the end.
I'm the same, said it more than once. If you have to rank them as stand alone though, they do fall short of ASOS/AGOT. Hence grouping together with ACOK as the 3 'weakest'.I must be the only one who enjoyed AFFC and ADWD as much as the other books
Well, the first time I read them, I didn't like them all that much, but then I read everything from the start to the end.
I think episode 6 is about to leak. HBO Go Spain has seemingly uploaded the episode early, and I believe someone is now in the process of uploading it to the usual places. I have seem some brief clips that show it's real.
Off to join the freefolk i go
The whole episode was livestreamed. It's good. The quality was insanely bad.
Thanks for not sharing bro
It was an hour or so before I commented here.
A guy livestreamed it on Instagram. That should tell you all you need to know about the quality.
There are a few clips circulating but don't think anyone managed to rip the episode.
A user on 4chan did live stream the episode on insta and some one was live streaming the live stream on insta on YouTube. All have been taken down it seems.
A user on 4chan did live stream the episode on insta and some one was live streaming the live stream on insta on YouTube. All have been taken down it seems.
So did someone rip the original file or is everyone getting excited over a stream of some out of focus video cam footage, of a tv, displaying the episode?
As far as I know, there is no rip out so far. It was leaked in Spain ffs. They managed d to feck up a simple fax! Not sure they would know how to rip an episode
Uploaded on Dailymotion. Fecking pirates
Freefolk is losing their shit about the leaked episode
The other thread is locked because of the leak? The paranoia is strong.
The paranoia is strong.Leaks are everywhere. And that thread is strictly for non spoiler stuff. Makes sense to lock that thread, as people dont really understand the rules regarding what can be posted and what cannot be posted in that thread.The other thread is locked because of the leak?
Seems like the Dailymotion videos have been removed.
Seems all everyone did was post it on their social media. There's the difference between Spain and India.As far as I know, there is no rip out so far. It was leaked in Spain ffs. They managed d to feck up a simple fax! Not sure they would know how to rip an episode
Oh also the poor souls who don't want to be spoiled need to boycott social media until Sunday as well. Plenty of short clips/gifs floating about.
Guys, if you find the entire episode, please PM it to me. I am really eager to report it to the authorities.
Me too please!
would you guys like to report torrents also?
This book thread is a bit like the nights watch.
Sent here after being bannished.
I'll get my wolfskin coat.
Sent here after being bann
I'll get my wolfskin coat.
You can get one from IKEA...it's an IKEA rug, cut up to make the Nights Watch cloaks...