I understand that the show is trying to speed things along now but come on some of the timings are so ridiculous. There is also a lot of building up with Arya and Waif, King's Landing and Dany stuff but nothing happens. All that build up in Braavos and we don't even get to see them fight. Same with Blackfish and the Lannister guards. Also the ridiculousness of Arya barely being able to get out of bed and then managing to kill a fully fit and training assassin that is better than Arya is really annoying. Also after the build up and the trailer focusing on 'I choose violence' all the mountain does is kill one guy. More bloodshed please!!! Next ep should have a lot of that though.
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Presumably Jaime's disillusionment with her will come once she burns down the capital.
Yeah, pretty much. I admired his stubbornness at first, but his willingness to then basically let his house die off instead of surrendering and going north to help the Starks was a bit foolish.
The waif runs like a T-1000.
She's got the same face too.
So we going with TV magic or was Arya killed and the Waif became Arya?
Yeah, the weakest episode this season. Agree that The Faceless Men ark has been Dorne-like shit, and that Dumb and Dumber have done their best to butcher Jaime's character.
And Blacfish got a stupid death, was hoping that he will help Sansa but now it is clear that we will see Littlefinger coming to save the day.
And Blacfish got a stupid death, was hoping that he will help Sansa but now it is clear that we will see Littlefinger coming to save the day.
In theory many things are possible but the way the show has been going for nearly 6 seasons now I'd say it's pretty obvious that Arya killed the Waif and left the faceless men.
Of course it doesn't make sense but in general if something doesn't make sense in GoT it's not because some clever elaborate story behind it but because it doesn't make sense.
Sadly true. Once again the further they get from the books the worse the writing gets.
Arya a barely trained novice evading a hit from the most gifted, renowned and expensive assassins in the known world is able to screw them over and then win and leave, all while giving the 'boss' some snark.
It's the type of fantasy that GRRM rails against and hates.
In her youth Cersei Lannister received a prophecy from Maggy the frog that she would die at the hands of the "Valonqar", which is the word for "little brother" in High Valyrian.
Starting to think Tommen is the little brother. (Or possibly the Hound). Nah who am I kidding it has to be Jaime.
Starting to think Tommen is the little brother. (Or possibly the Hound). Nah who am I kidding it has to be Jaime.
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Weirdest thing about the show right now.
Also they keep trying to make murderous, vengeful psycho's heroes and diplomatic well rounded peacemakers morally inferior.
The Starks are cheap Northerners - wanted the beer back that the fly had drunk.
Arya scenes in the last couple of seasons have therefore been utterly utterly pointless... for fecks sake. I enjoyed most of the episode though, we finally got to see some of the real Jamie (even if the waving scene was tragically pathetic), the Hound is always charismatic, and I thought the Kings Landing scenes set us up well for, err, something.
Kevan isn't interesting enough for Varys to shockingly kill him - any chance that Varys (potentially helped by Dorne - even if that makes no sense) kills Tommen in the final episode?
Hollywoodization of an alternative, anti-heroical story. It's rare the TV show that can avoid these pitfalls it seems.
The TV show obviously isn't there to provide us with the irony and wit of the books, it's an unpredictable, complicated plot with some fun characters, set in a great world, and with a healthy mix of brilliant/ terrible/ inconsistent sub plots. It really is best just not comparing it to the books, and hope that the tension isn't ruined when the sixth book is released.
Anyone else wondering what the point of Euron is in this season? Obviously the Battle of Slaver's Bay is getting ready to kick off, and we've Yara (Asha) and Theon about to arrive in Mereen, but is Euron going to show up also? Or what?
Even then, it's become very predictable in recent seasons. Even more so if the battle in the next episode just ends with Littlefinger saving the day. I'm still hoping Pieman Manderly and his lot turn up to provide some strength and morale for Jon before the battle begins, though, since Jon desperately needs numbers to even have a fighting chance.
I dunno. My guess is he'll turn up behind Yara and Theon, presumably, but then he's featured too little (two scenes basically) this season to have any sort of impact, and his actor hasn't created a mystique or anything to actually get away with so little screentime.
My guess would be she goes on a bit of a wyldfire pyrotechnic binge blowing up some stuff but thats not enough and she wants to "burn them all" then Jamie stabs her in the back like he did the Mad King
I have a feeling the mountain might backfire on her too
Terrible episode. First really poor one this season.
Yeah, shit episode. And feck off with killing cool book characters in a pathetic way. First Doran&Hotah and now they let the Blackfish die offscreen.
The Arya plot was atrocious, her storyline was basically pointless in the last two seasons. Hound and Mountain stuff was great. Beric still alive means definitely no Lady Stoneheart, right?
The Arya plot was atrocious, her storyline was basically pointless in the last two seasons. Hound and Mountain stuff was great. Beric still alive means definitely no Lady Stoneheart, right?
Unless they just do it completely differently to the books
When they met the Hound and were sitting around the fire at the river I thought for a second that the Blackfish might come down that river and "take" her role
But yeah, I doubt they'll do it now.That bloke stinking his finger up the other guys bum and sniffing it was the most disturbing thing ever in this show.
At this point I hope they don't bother. Imagine the state on the other thread after a character death? There'd be about 6 pages of people poring over every detail of the death and cross referenced with the locations of known magic users to see whether they'd actually stay dead.When they met the Hound and were sitting around the fire at the river I thought for a second that the Blackfish might come down that river and "take" her role
It was worse seeing something similar happen in the Germany game to be honest
Amol on another "I don't understand this" rant.
Not necessarily, but I think this episode made it less likely.
If Jaime now heads back to Kings Landing then I'd say it's definitely off. You'd assume Brienne is going to be around Winterfell in the next episode as well, so there's no-one apart from the Brotherhood who would really interact with her before the end of the season.
Hopefully it is, anyway. Feel like it would just be a waste of time with so few episodes left.
I think the wall, and Kings Landing, will both fall by the end of the final episode of the season.
What about the Brotherhood capturing Brienne, thus reuniting her with The Hound. For what purpose, I have no fecking idea.
Good chance. The wall coming down might be the cliff-hanger ending to this season, or maybe a great way to kick off next season.
"Inconceivable!" how B&W can be such poor writers.
I just typed out a reply to him but I deleted it because I can't be arsed having to follow up on his reply.
Amol didn't even like the Hodor ep so I don't know why he bothers watching tbh.
This episode was awful though, this and the one before last one were as bad as anything season 5 threw up.
This episode was awful though, this and the one before last one were as bad as anything season 5 threw up.
Varys heading to see him? But then Theon/Yara show up in Mereen to help. Which will create a huge problem, when Varys has already cut a deal with Euron. Asha/Yara then gets a look at Dany naked on a Dragon, falls madly in love with her, leading to an epic 3 way....battle you pervs....Ashra/Yaha vs Stone Jorah vs the guy who used to look like Andy Carrol.
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I've never seen anything like it. Every week the thread shits itself with spoilers.
Didn't think the episode was that bad at all. Sets up lots of things that don't involve Jon - think it leaves plenty of intriguing possibilities for Ep. 10.
The writing for Arya's storyline wasn't brilliant yeah, and they could've done much more clever things considering the Faceless Men can literally be ANYBODY, but it was entertaining. I have feeling they'll just forget to solve the whole being stabbed in the stomach thing, but it wasn't the worst oversight in recent seasons.
Massively looking forward to the next two episodes now, should be brilliant.
The writing for Arya's storyline wasn't brilliant yeah, and they could've done much more clever things considering the Faceless Men can literally be ANYBODY, but it was entertaining. I have feeling they'll just forget to solve the whole being stabbed in the stomach thing, but it wasn't the worst oversight in recent seasons.
Massively looking forward to the next two episodes now, should be brilliant.
I think it's a solid build up episode, but the Arya stuff spoils it. Could be written better, but it could be the same in the books, who knows? I think the director's take is that Waif wanted to inflict maximum pain on Arya, and so the first wounds were not life threatening and just meant to weaken her. Doesn't still explain the chasing at 120 miles, but she did receive milk of poppy and medical attention. It's such an unsatisfactory mix with a bit of logic and a lot of making up as you go along thrown in.
I suppose Arya comes to Winterfell, gets rid of her enemies and then Jaqen comes back to claim her and she retires back as an assassin at the end of Book 7.
Alright, death watch time
1. Blackfish (What a waste, already dead)
2. Waif (Bye, you won't beissed)
3. Ramsay Bolton
4. Ser Davos/Melisandre
5. Littlefinger (looks unlikely)
6. Theon Greyjoy (likely)
7. Cersei or Tommen (please)
Added Ser Davos/Melisandre option as it looks like he finds the burial place of Shireen in the preview.
Dragon to finally appear in the Westeros
2. Waif (Bye, you won't beissed)
3. Ramsay Bolton
4. Ser Davos/Melisandre
5. Littlefinger (looks unlikely)
6. Theon Greyjoy (likely)
7. Cersei or Tommen (please)
Added Ser Davos/Melisandre option as it looks like he finds the burial place of Shireen in the preview.
Dragon to finally appear in the Westeros