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Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?
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Seeing this criticism more and more recently around the internet and I don't get it. For one, the show has been consistent with it. It's been happening since the very first episode with loads of characters.
Bryan Cogman sort of addressed it, regarding this episode...
The show has 10 episodes to work with each year. Travelling scenes need to skipped sometimes. If they weren't, people would complain that show is going nowhere with people talking on boats and horseback all the time. I'm all for keeping the teleporters.
No one wants to see all the travel but it should be reasonable IMO. With Book 4 and Book 5 formats, show clearly made the decision to follow chronological order of events. Sansa shows up in Castle Black from Winterfell, in the meantime, Littlefinger has heard about the rumours, goes to Eyrie, rounds up the troops and has come to Winterfell to talk to Sansa, even before Ramsay's ravens reaches Winterfell. That's almost teleporting speed right there. I can understand the show's problems, they want to make sure episodes are action packed at a reasonable pace, but there has to be a reasonable balance.
Am i getting unbanned from the other thread any time soon? It's always the one at the top and given I was banned from it for nothing.....I mean come on now.
I was banned too, you probably won't be. That thread is a mess, it's just spoiler tag after spoiler tag.
And if not, they can just handwave it with a short scene of Cerei talking to one of those dudes with him confirming they were still producing all that time.
Prediction for the remaining episodes:
All these things need to happen in this season, considering that there will be only 13 episodes left.
Almost certain deaths:
Possible deaths:
Episode 8: another filler with Starks recruiting (I guess that the Manderlies will join them), Daenerys reaching Meeren, and probably something uninteresting happening in Kingslanding. Maybe Bran reaches the wall.
Episode 9: usually the big battles take a full episode, so I guess this is Starks vs Boltons. Ramsey dies but not without killing Rickon.
Episode 10: Long shot, but I am going for this to be the biggest episode of the show so far. Daenerys starting her voyage for Westeros, Cersei burning Kingslanding, Bran seeing a vision with a dying Lyanna and Jon, and the most important thing, the Others destroying the wall.
Episode 9: usually the big battles take a full episode, so I guess this is Starks vs Boltons. Ramsey dies but not without killing Rickon.
Episode 10: Long shot, but I am going for this to be the biggest episode of the show so far. Daenerys starting her voyage for Westeros, Cersei burning Kingslanding, Bran seeing a vision with a dying Lyanna and Jon, and the most important thing, the Others destroying the wall.
All these things need to happen in this season, considering that there will be only 13 episodes left.
Almost certain deaths:
Ramsey
Rickon
Tommen
Loras
Kevan
High Sparrow
Rickon
Tommen
Loras
Kevan
High Sparrow
Possible deaths:
Theon/Asha
Jaime
Ghost
Jaime
Ghost
Possibe Arya speculation doing the rounds on the internet
Arya and Waif are the same person like in
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Waif is only seen by Arya and Jaqen hagar. So I believe that if the waif kills arya, then she becomes "the girl with no face" and if it happens the other way around, she is just Arya stark.
Fight club
Waif is only seen by Arya and Jaqen hagar. So I believe that if the waif kills arya, then she becomes "the girl with no face" and if it happens the other way around, she is just Arya stark.
What absolute bollocks.
To add the list of possible deaths:
GM Pycelle could probably snuff it this season
Wun-Wun
Wun-Wun
you're stating that like you know it to be false, and given your 'hey guys I have a spoiler wanna hear it' stuff in the other thread, I think you need to be careful what you post.
I'm saying it's bollocks because I can't see how it would be feasible. I don't know but it seems a pretty idiotic theory.
Leave Wun-Wun alone.
Last of his kind. They killed off all the Children earlier in the season, you just know it that they will kill off the last remaining Giant
I swear, if they kill Ghost I will be so mad. I would love everyone but Ramsey to die that is in your almost certain deaths section. Also a real shame how much of a melt Loras is given that he is apparently one of the best knights in Westeros.
Cheers! I think most people knew that anyway, was fairly obvious.
The North remembers, Lord Davos. The North remembers but doesn't give a flying feck
Gloverlogic.
I hate the Starks now. Robb shagged a fitty and got my brother and hundreds of our men killed!! I'm siding with the Boltons.
Who killed your brother and his men?
The Boltons, why?
I hate the Starks now. Robb shagged a fitty and got my brother and hundreds of our men killed!! I'm siding with the Boltons.
Who killed your brother and his men?
The Boltons, why?
Does anyone remember in either the first or second season of the TV show, GM Pycelle was going at it with some girl and when he got up he was mobile however just before he left the room, he hunched his back into a old man again?
Yep. It was really funny.
I didn't know that well the characters back then, and was still thinking that Pycelle was a nice guy. When he did that it was a check 'aha, this is an arsehole too'.
Where do we reckon this tension between Jon and Sansa is leading? Haven't seen it mentioned really, and given Sansa is nowhere near Jon in the books, it's hard to see how it might play out.
Enjoying this season a lot more than the last one.
No idea how the hound gets from here to any meet up with the mountain though. Shame Ian McShane had such a small cameo too. Like the guy who played Adebisi last year, seems a shame not to give them bigger roles.
The change in m.o. by the BWB (as in the books) is another sign pointing to Lady Stoneheart I guess?
No idea how the hound gets from here to any meet up with the mountain though. Shame Ian McShane had such a small cameo too. Like the guy who played Adebisi last year, seems a shame not to give them bigger roles.
The change in m.o. by the BWB (as in the books) is another sign pointing to Lady Stoneheart I guess?
A dispute over Winterfell? If LF rides North as we're expecting, he's almost certainly going to tell Sansa to take Winterfell for herself if Rickon dies. Jon will have the wildlings behind him though, and may also be seen as a better leader for House Stark because he's a guy and has a lot of battle prowess. Especially if he's the Stark who took back the North. He may also see Sansa as usurping Bran, or using Rickon's (possible) death to her advantage for self-gain. If LF puts ideas in Sansa's head that Jon is trying to oust her, there's potential for conflict there.
Littlefinger is not stupid. He'll probably try to kill Sansa and Jon Snow instead of trying to create fights between them.
He'd probably hold her hostage and then marry her off again (Show Littlefinger, that is- book LF is like a different character). Probably to Sweetrobin since there will be no Harry the heir (and I doubt they will do the plot point from the books where Baelish is slowly poisoning him)
30k knights of the vale vs a few thousand Wildlings with no loyalty to Sansa would likely mean there is not much she can do about it. Then again they possibly won't have Littlefinger betray her now since they have screwed his character up.
Snow he might kill, but I'm sure Jon has some plot armour since he only just came back from the dead
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Littlefinger isn't going to kidnap Sansa because he'll want to have her on his side, actively working alongside him. That's generally the way he works. Putting Sansa with Robin would be a bit useless because Robin's hopeless and will probably get offed at some point. Even more so if Sansa is married to him against her will.
He'll probably just set up his own machinations and try to drive wedges between people. Talk to Northern houses loyal to the Starks, and remind them that Jon is buddied up with wildlings. Talk with wildlings, and remember that Jon joined an organisation to kill them, and is still a Stark. Try to convince Sansa that Jon wants Winterfell for himself. Stuff like that, I imagine.
He'll probably just set up his own machinations and try to drive wedges between people. Talk to Northern houses loyal to the Starks, and remind them that Jon is buddied up with wildlings. Talk with wildlings, and remember that Jon joined an organisation to kill them, and is still a Stark. Try to convince Sansa that Jon wants Winterfell for himself. Stuff like that, I imagine.
Either way, I think its going to circle back to the book plot and she will be betrothed to a Littlefinger candidate from the Vale. I doubt they will introduce Harry the Heir so the only candidate is Sweetrobin.
I doubt he will help for free
I doubt he will help for free
Personally I think they're skipping by the whole Vale plot. The point of it anyway is to secure both the Vale and the North for Littlefinger. If he's got the men of the Vale, he's done that. I suspect Sansa will return home in the books at some point and they're just jumping to that.
yeah maybe, Sansa will definitely return to Winterfell in the books. Maybe they will cut the marriage part.
Who knows what these writers are thinking at times, tbf.
I just see moments like last week's 'Jaime, go and do your book plot' moment or the week before's 'Jorah, go away until we need you to be Jon Connington again' moment and it makes me think they have points of reference in the plot and force the story along to make it fit.
Who knows what these writers are thinking at times, tbf.
I just see moments like last week's 'Jaime, go and do your book plot' moment or the week before's 'Jorah, go away until we need you to be Jon Connington again' moment and it makes me think they have points of reference in the plot and force the story along to make it fit.
I don't think that there is enough time for all these machinations. They need to work faster.
I guess that LF will help Sansa for free. He will probably want her as Queen of the North and have her in her debt, but I don't think that we will see much politics from now on. It will be full of action instead considering how many things need to be done (Daenerys and the Others invasion).
I guess that LF will help Sansa for free. He will probably want her as Queen of the North and have her in her debt, but I don't think that we will see much politics from now on. It will be full of action instead considering how many things need to be done (Daenerys and the Others invasion).
There is a theory that High Sparrow is the remaining Lord of House Reyne who somehow escaped the massacre of Castamere.
It would be a very interesting development, though will probably damage a bit the figure of Tywin (if a Reyne manages to destroy Lannisters).
It would be a very interesting development, though will probably damage a bit the figure of Tywin (if a Reyne manages to destroy Lannisters).
Were the Brotherhood that evil in the books? I don't remember them being anything but good guys, though, clearly, sadistic in terms of killing their enemies.
Ramsay
Tommen
Waif
A number of (non-Margaery) Tyrells
Lysanna Stark (lol)
Rickon Stark
Tommen
Waif
A number of (non-Margaery) Tyrells
Lysanna Stark (lol)
Rickon Stark
Tywin Lannister is long dead, so it won't do any damage to his figure. Morever, the story arcs of Reyne and Blackfyre won't be introduced anymore IMO. It is not covered well in the books in the first place.
They were killed by the ironborn, not by the Boltons...
I remember Thoros seeming a bit disillusioned with the group after Lady Stoneheart takes over.
Quote from the wiki
So it does seem like they've taken a dark turn though I'm pretty sure we only read about them hanging Freys.
The king they declared allegiance to, was killed by Roose Bolton, betrayed by the Freys. The very king who was returning north to fight the ironborns. There's definitely chinks in the glovers logic.