I suspect something related to that is coming soon, given that that's the title of the last episode.
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I suspect something related to that is coming soon, given that that's the title of the last episode.
This thread now has the words "TV thread" in it. I'm sure nothing can go wrong.
It also has the word "not" next to those words.
Yell at me again the next time someone comes in here by accident.
Yell at me again the next time someone comes in here by accident.
Oh, fair enough then!
That ending
I can't wait to see the other thread next season. The Red Wedding happens about 60% through the book so I imagine that's how the first season of Clash will end. Bricks will be shat.
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.
Lol, I'm expecting the internet to go into meltdown. It'll be pretty interesting to see how they do the split of ASoS into 2 seasons.
I do have a slight gripe on the reasoning behind word of Bran and Rickon's death not getting back to Robb and Catelyn. They both acted stupid in the last episode; in the book it made sense, in the tv series not as much so.
Hopefully they'll add in some of the bits they have missed out of Clash of Kings
I've noticed there have been quite a few bits of SoS in this series. For instance Jaime and Robb were hardly in Clash of Kings, and their bits have been brought forward. Jaime and Brienne going to King's Landing is happening now when it should be in the next book (and they had that cousin with them who got killed by Vargo et al). Robb announces he's getting married at the start of the third book - it's quite a reveal and would have been good for the TV version.
Totally agree. Their deaths were supposed to be Catelyn's breaking point that caused her to let Jaime go. On the show it just looks like she finally lost patience.
No way they are going to end the season with the Red Wedding. I can see it being the second to last episode, though.
In other news, Vargo Hoat is confirmed for season 3.
In other news, Vargo Hoat is confirmed for season 3.
Her fear that the murder of Jaime would provoke the Lannisters into killing her daughters in retaliation was a solid motive. Even though it wasn't made explicit. I don't think that threat existed in the book.
That makes sense. It was in the book too, but only slightly. The Karstark sons were killed in the battlefield instead of guarding the gate, so Jaime was definitely in danger, but not to the point of a riot.
I don't know why they haven't included Reek (Ramsey) in the Theon / Winterfell scenes - he is pretty integral and his involvement there is significant for later developments
Reek is Theon after Ramsay captures him.
Well that was pretty much what I hoped it would be.
Also love hearing The Rains of Castamere now to lay the groundwork for future events, though it's been lightly introduced earlier.
Also love hearing The Rains of Castamere now to lay the groundwork for future events, though it's been lightly introduced earlier.
Reek was initially Ramsey, then he took control and made Theon reek. If I recall, it was Reek who persuaded Theon to kill the farm boys and parade them as Bran and Rickon.
You're right, it's also part of the reason why some people think Dagmer is Ramsay but I don't buy that. The Bastard of Bolton is on his way to Winterfell and I reckon her will squirm his way in and trick Theon next season.
Brilliant episode the last one.
Wonder if they show the dany-house of the dead sequence in the next one.
would be two great episodes to end the season.
Wonder if they show the dany-house of the dead sequence in the next one.
would be two great episodes to end the season.
Well then. I should've paid closer attention to the audiobooks.
Ramsay was Ramsay until he switched places with Reek after starving Lady Hornwood to death. He then posed as Reek and went back to Winterfell with Roderik Cassel. Then, once Theon attacked Winterfell, Reek started to be BFFs with Theon. He then sneaks out to go get his men and comes back and destroys Cassel's force that was trying to retake Winterfell.
Ramsay was never actually Reek. He just disguised himself as Reek to avoid punishment. Reek is just whichever poor bastard Ramsay brainwashes and destroys.
Alot to fit into the last episode of the season isn't there! Theres got to be the visit to the house of the undying and then of course the red wedding.
Doesn't Sansa also escape from Kings Landing via help from Littlefinger?
Say what? The Red Wedding is a couple of seasons away.
I'd imagine RW would be season 3 second to last episode ending (seems like they're saving the climaxes for the end of the second to last episode and using the finale to set up the next season). Sansa's escape happens at Joffrey's wedding which happens after and would probably be early in season 4.
A great episode, but they have a hell of a lot to fit into episode 10 now.
Right then! I've completely forgotten the timeline of things. Always thought it was after the big battle.
Thematically, we've got a lot ground to cover still, it took a while for Margery to displace Sansa, RW is easily late next season.
I think Rob dying will end this season, he'll be this season's Ned.
I think Rob dying will end this season, he'll be this season's Ned.
What? How the feck will Rob die this season?
The Red Wedding will the at the end of the next at LEAST.
The Red Wedding will the at the end of the next at LEAST.
Yes it seems Its been a bit too long since I've read the books and I seem to have accelerated the timeline in my own head.
I suppose the last episode will be centered around Danaerys visiting the House of the Undying and getting her Dragons back. Hopefully they will show the Dragons barbequeing everyone but the thing is they do seem a bit small to do that right now.
He sort of done all the important stuff already, he's refusal to marry the Frey is the only element remaining.
And you think they're going to fit all that into the last episode, as well as Arya's escape, Brans escape, House of the Undying, the Hound and Sansa, and all the Kings Landing shit, to mention but a few?The Red Wedding is a massive event in the books, it'd practically need a full episode to itself, just like the Blackwater did.
Yeah House of the Undying, Jon vs Halfhand, Winterfell sacked. I think those are the only major events left in Clash of Kings.
If I remember right, in the Clash of Kings:
Reek was Ramsey's friend (Roose didn't know which one corrupted the other) and after Ramsey raped someone, he swapped clothes with Reek to avoid being killed by Ser Roderick. Ramsey 'posing' as Reek infiltrated Winterfell and convinced Theon to kill the boys and flay the corpses. He then told Theon he'd be able to fetch an army and returned but was let straight into Winterfell and then sacked the place.
Much later, after taking Theon prisoner, Ramsey turned Theon into the new 'Reek'
Well they'll likely have quite a bit in Kings Landing with Tyrion's injuries and such, plus the fact that the episode is called "Valar Morghulis" means it will involve Arya quite a bit I assume.
Technicalities aside, Ramsey was known as Reek, and then made Theon Reek. I think the TV show probably changed this in order to avoid confusion with two Reeks, let alone three.
Personally, I think it will be more like the season after that again. The next book will be two seasons, after all.
I think it happened about 2/3 of the way through the book, so they could conceivably move it up, especially since they've already pulled stuff from ASOS into this season. Like Lastwolf said, there isn't much else left for Rob to do besides the final act of marrying Talisa.
Otherwise what other events could they possibly peak season 3 with that could come close to matching Baelor and Blackwater?
I suppose it's conceivable. I don't think it will be the season finale in any case, though. More likely it would be the second to last episode, don't you think?
Book 3 is the best of the lot, there's loads of massive events in the thing. Siege of the wall, Joffrey getting killed, obviously the Red Wedding, Tyrion killing Tywin, Arya and the Hound.
I cannae wait.
I cannae wait.
They're all convinced Sansa leaves with the Hound. I should tell them "No, she leaves with Littlefinger after Joffrey is poisoned at his wedding feast since she and her husband Tyrion are prime suspects, even though Petyr did it."