Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

niMic said:
I suppose it's conceivable. I don't think it will be the season finale in any case, though. More likely it would be the second to last episode, don't you think?
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Yep. The wedding would be the second to last. The last episode would be Kings Landing in celebration and the announcement of Joffrey and Margaery's wedding. That wedding would happen early in season 4 with the climax being the battle at the wall and the shocker at the moon door to end the season.

I'd imagine Jaime and Brienne takes up a fairly large portion of season 3 along with Arya's travels that eventually bring her to the Twins.
 
By the way, I think the Hound would wreck Bronn's shit if they did fight. He's not Gregor, but he's a bad motherfecker. Bronn is smart, but the Hound doesn't have his brother's overconfidence.
 
Yeah Jaime is every bit is cold and witty as in the books, I can't wait for all the 'wench' talk, he went from one of my most hated characters to one of my favourites over the course of book 3.
 
Sir Matt said:
By the way, I think the Hound would wreck Bronn's shit if they did fight. He's not Gregor, but he's a bad motherfecker. Bronn is smart, but the Hound doesn't have his brother's overconfidence.
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The Hound is a deadly mofo but despite not being overconfident he's all brute force and ignorance, Bronn is oddly enough a thinking man's fighter, I'd back him.

He's always watching the other fighters, he even says it to Tyrion about how he watches the Lannister forces in training for weaknesses, because he never knows what side he'll be on one day and he might have to fight them. It'd be an epic clash of steel but I think Bronn should edge it. But I imagine that it's 60-40 kinda thing, the Hound is no slouch.

It'll never come about since the Hound would have to go zombie mode and Bronn has been out of the picture for a long time, hmmm wonder if he'll ever come back ?
 
Yeah the books do imply at times that Bronn is a masterful swordsman, he'd probably edge it.

As far as I'm aware, nobody was better than Jaime though? Well, Eddard used to be and Brienne gave him a good run for his money.
 
Jaime pre-handicap was probably the baddest motherfecker of his generation, he revered the previous one more than his, in just the same as we all do, legends of the past are hard to compare against the mere mortals of today.

Look at the next gen, Robb et al, it's hard to tell who's the best of them (most of them are dead).
 
In the TV Series Jaime did say there were 3 people out there that could give him a fight. Wonder who they would be.
 
I think Selmy and Loras Tyrell are the two I would also go for. Starks dead so not sure Jaime would count him anymore. The third could be the Mountain but you'd think Jaime has the speed and grace to beat him.

Selmy has to be one of best around still, shame we never got to see how he evaded capture from Joffrey's Kingsguard as it sounded epic.
 
Selmy and Arthur Dayne(died in Robert's Rebellion) were the two baddest Kingsguard. Jaime talks about them a lot when discussing the crap that are in it now. Robert in his youth was a badass too. Given who he defeated at the Tower of Joy(Dayne, Gerold Hightower, and Oswell Whent) even with the help of Howland Reed, Ned has to be pretty nasty too.

Also, Loras' brother Garlan is also badass. He trains fighting against lots of guys just beating on him.
 
Best episode yet this season. It stuck to the plot of the book more than it has been doing and it was no coincidence that GRRM wrote it. I also liked the way it didn't deviate for from the events at King's Landing. I think for it to work on TV it has to not flit around between characters / locations too much, and concentrate on one or two elements of the story.

Going back to the Reek / Bastard of Bolton storyline, I feel that Ramsey should have been introduced already - it's going to be slightly inneffective having him turn up to sack Winterfell (maybe next ep?) if non-book readers won't know who the hell he is
 
The Dorne dude that died fighting the Mountain was well renowned, he'd have schooled him if he wasn't such a showboating asshole.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
I think Selmy and Loras Tyrell are the two I would also go for. Starks dead so not sure Jaime would count him anymore. The third could be the Mountain but you'd think Jaime has the speed and grace to beat him.

Selmy has to be one of best around still, shame we never got to see how he evaded capture from Joffrey's Kingsguard as it sounded epic.
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I think it's the Hound, Loras, Garland Tyrrell or The Viper. I think Jaime is too arrogant to consider Selmy now that he is old even though he's probably a beast still.
 
Crustanoid said:
Best episode yet this season. It stuck to the plot of the book more than it has been doing and it was no coincidence that GRRM wrote it. I also liked the way it didn't deviate for from the events at King's Landing. I think for it to work on TV it has to not flit around between characters / locations too much, and concentrate on one or two elements of the story.

Going back to the Reek / Bastard of Bolton storyline, I feel that Ramsey should have been introduced already - it's going to be slightly inneffective having him turn up to sack Winterfell (maybe next ep?) if non-book readers won't know who the hell he is
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They forgot the chain but apart from that yeah, it was awesome.

That he's Bolton's bastard is all they need to know, until he was legitimized by Joffrey, Roose kept him at arms reach anyway.
 
They have no idea of the horrible stuff Ramsay has done before he got to Winterfell, like force marrying Lady Hornwood and then locking her up and starving her to death. Will be interesting to see what they make of him.

After CoK Theon's storyline disappears for so I guess they needed to fill a couple seasons worth of Ramsay arriving, taking over Winterfell, burning it and then torturing Theon to annihilation. I reckon season 4 & 5 (maybe more) will be a combination of AFOC and Dance with Dragons and the storyline resumes.

The guys producing the show can't afford the actor to come in and then disappear for 2 years essentially so they are filling up that story.
 
MichaelS said:
I think it's the Hound, Loras, Garland Tyrrell or The Viper. I think Jaime is too arrogant to consider Selmy now that he is old even though he's probably a beast still.
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I think Garlan could take Loras. Loras is very good, but he's better at tourney stuff. Garlan is just for asskicking.
 
I haven't wanted to punch Joffrey as much this season - which is the opposite in terms of the books. I was genuinely elated when he died in the book
 
Partial list of new characters for Season 3. Awesome.

Mance Rayder: We’ve heard about him all season. A former member of the Night’s Watch who became the “King Beyond the Wall,” the leader of the Wildlings.
Daario Naharis: A confident and seductive warrior.
Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister duo with special insights.
Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family.
Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle.
Lady Selyse Florent: Stannis Baratheon’s wife.
Shireen: Stannis’ daughter.
Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s sharp-witted grandmother.
Beric Dondarrion: A skilled knight who is the leader of the outlaw group Brotherhood Without Banners.
Thoros of Myr: A red priest who follows the same religion as Melisandre.
Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.

From www.winteriscoming.net

The most interesting ones are the Reeds, the Blackfish and the Queen of Thorns. People weren't sure if any of them would be in (particularly the Queen of Thorns, since Margaery is a little less naive this time around), and they're all in.

Beric Dondarrion is interesting, since he was in Season 1, though only for a brief scene. I suppose they're recasting him.

Also, I can't wait to see Daario.
 
:drool: All of those characters, except Shireen and Selyse, are awesome.

Still not Blackfish. :(
 
I'd be interested to see where the Reeds come in. I thought Osha had taken their role and i was wondering about when Bran and Rickon would part ways. They'll presumably meet in the ruins of winterfell, then go their separate ways?
 
When does the Shavepate come into it? I'm guessing we'll see characters from the first half of the book more. The reeds had to be in it to be fair. The drunk knight (Dontos?) must be brought back - he was included right at the start so he must have some significant. There's so many plot threads in the third book that they can easily draw it out over two seasons. Vargo and the brave companions must be introduced early on, and they will probably have Roose in Harrenhal (and maybe introduce Ramsey in doing so).
 
Just to bring up the point made in the tv thread with people who've read more than half a book, did you guys not find this series much better than LOTR?? I found almost every aspect better.
 
gooDevil must be high, or something. He didn't just say that it's not as good as LotR, he said that it's pretty much not literature at all. It's beyond ridiculous.

I haven't actually read Lord of the Rings. I tried, but I couldn't get past the hobbits. I know a lot of people will disagree, but for me this the best I've read along with Wheel of Time.
 
Lastwolf said:
No Strong Belwas, I have a feeling they will merge his character into Daario.
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How would that work story-wise? Belwas will show up with Selmy early next season, probably. Since I'm guessing the dragons will destroy the House of the Undying next episode.
 
Smores said:
Just to bring up the point made in the tv thread with people who've read more than half a book, did you guys not find this series much better than LOTR?? I found almost every aspect better.
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For a modern day reader, this is far superior. There are tropes and ways of story telling that just read weird to us, least to me. Also as I mentioned in the Tv thread, the songs and poems every 3rd page is annoying as feck.


LoTR needs to be respected though, Tolkien and C.S Lewis are the bedrock on which all modern fantasy novels are based. It's like discounting Stoker when talking about Vampires.
 
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