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You definitely can with spoiler tags. Better be safe that way.
Getting off on the pain of children. This was perfectly normal in catholic schools when I was a kid. In fact one of my teachers has just gone down (pun not intended) for it.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.../jailed-retired-teacher-church-deacon-7684285
That's horrible
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39xbe6/spoilers_all_the_reason_bad_things_happen_on_got/
Fully agree with this. I understand that the show only gets 10 episodes a season and that's why they've had to rush some bits, cut out some bits and change things around. But I feel like the deaths in the show (post-RW) all feel a bit cheap and done for shock value rather than as a consequence of the characters' actions. E.g. Jon's stabbing in the book was completely understandable, but was it really justified in the show? Stannis' arc with Shireen's burning became completely pointless when (if) he died.
In the books, bad things happen to the good side and bad side because of the consequences of their actions. In the show, the bad guys get away with everything. Ramsey comes to mind immediately.
Fully agree with this. I understand that the show only gets 10 episodes a season and that's why they've had to rush some bits, cut out some bits and change things around. But I feel like the deaths in the show (post-RW) all feel a bit cheap and done for shock value rather than as a consequence of the characters' actions. E.g. Jon's stabbing in the book was completely understandable, but was it really justified in the show? Stannis' arc with Shireen's burning became completely pointless when (if) he died.
In the books, bad things happen to the good side and bad side because of the consequences of their actions. In the show, the bad guys get away with everything. Ramsey comes to mind immediately.
That's horrible
The beating was normal business as usual. Straps, canes, sports shoes, large books and hands were the usual weapons of choice. And for some reason you weren't allowed to wear underwear for sport and then had to have a group shower in the buff while teachers stood around watching. Very weird. Obviously, the added sexual assault was a bit less usual although the police said they would have charged a few other teachers if they hadn't already died.
Ramsey will get his I'm sure and Kings Landing will run with blood once Cerci has a shower and a manicure.
i called it but f*ck me really? he's barely been there five minutes and now he's running things!? and where did Varys pop up from?
the speed with which they've crammed everything into the last few episodes tells me they could'nt wait to pass the books so they can cut loose, i dread to think what they'll come up with next season it'll be batshit
I'm glad Varys showed up, although it's all very convenient timing again I'm interested to see what happens with the Dothraki too.
Stannis was an OMG moment, although I think he'd pretty much given up as he'd lost his daughter, wife, half his army and then even Mel abandoned him. I'm sure it will pan out differently in the books, although we'll have to assume he'll meet his end there quite soon too.
I was totally wrong about keeping Sam around for Jon's stabbing! I guess they liked the idea of seeing his best ally disappear just before his demise?
I'm interested to see what happens with the Dothraki too.Stannis was an OMG moment, although I think he'd pretty much given up as he'd lost his daughter, wife, half his army and then even Mel abandoned him. I'm sure it will pan out differently in the books, although we'll have to assume he'll meet his end there quite soon too.
I was totally wrong about keeping Sam around for Jon's stabbing! I guess they liked the idea of seeing his best ally disappear just before his demise?
They've got a fecking strange relationship with timing, the writers of this show.I'm glad Varys showed up, although it's all very convenient timing again
Stannis was an OMG moment, although I think he'd pretty much given up as he'd lost his daughter, wife, half his army and then even Mel abandoned him. I'm sure it will pan out differently in the books, although we'll have to assume he'll meet his end there quite soon too.
I was totally wrong about keeping Sam around for Jon's stabbing! I guess they liked the idea of seeing his best ally disappear just before his demise?
Apparently Jon's not coming back next season and is actually dead. I thought it might have been some kind of elaborate wind up but the answer looks quite genuine?!?
I'd take that with a pinch of salt. He's hardly going to say he'll be back next season after that cliffhanger ending.
I was half expecting Jon to say 'Et Tu Olly'.
They'll say that as much as they can to try and convince viewers he's really dead.
This was a major problem for me. Jon was a good guy in the books, but his plans to move on Winterfell were controversial and you could arguably understand why Bowen Marsh and others turned on him. There was some moral ambiguity to it. This just felt like a plain murder from people who didn’t like the decisions that Jon was making. There was perhaps a small level of justification in the Widlings coming through, but that was about it.
I know I know but he wasn't exactly sitting on the fence with his answer and apparently he had a farewell party with the cast.
It wouldn't surprise me. They haven't brought up his warging ability at all iirc and his last word was fecking Olly instead of Ghost.
It wouldn't surprise me. They haven't brought up his warging ability at all iirc and his last word was fecking Olly instead of Ghost.
I think they’ll have gone to great lengths in order to cover it up, but Melisandre coming back to the Wall makes me think she’s definitely going to pull the resurrection thingy on Jon. If she doesn’t, I hope Davos gives her a 3-hour long verbal smackdown on how daft burning Shireen was.
Possible I guess but there's never been any indication that she can do what Beric did. Did they ever bring up the story of how Azor Azai was reborn in the show?
Well she is a priestess. It's been established that Thoros never particularly thought he was capable of doing it either, until it worked with Beric. Would make sense for it to work for her when she least expects it. And nah, they've been very quiet on Azor Ahai.
Even if he's dead I reckon they'd need him for flashback scenes and dream sequences so the whole farewell party stuff is overblown nonsense in my opinion.
That's going to be an issue then isn't it? Logically speaking, why would Melisandre try to revive Jon if she has no reason to think he is Azor Azai? And given there was no salt and smoke involved in the death there appears to be no reason why she should think he was AA.
For the banter.
He didn't receive a departing gift, all those who die get one. Ygritte got her bow, Shireen got the stag etc...
There's no way he's done, in the books or the show. He says something like 'I'm going take some time out, maybe start writing or get to know myself better...' yeah, or hide whilst you carry on filming S6.
There's no way he's done, in the books or the show. He says something like 'I'm going take some time out, maybe start writing or get to know myself better...' yeah, or hide whilst you carry on filming S6.
They'll probably take him out for a full season like Bran this season, they've enough to go on with the other stories for a year then bring back Snow as AA for the 7th and beat the shit out of walkers. Harrington's said he's not there 'next season', hasnt he.
Came here to post this actually, so true. It used to be "fair" and balanced, good and bad happening to all sides but everyone having some good and bad in them and all that. Now it's just basically good v evil and the good always getting shat on, it's lost the balance it had in previous seasons and now they do everything for pure shock value, like burning Shireen which had no real point to it really.
Daft?! He should kill her, and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't.
Sounds possible I guess but I can't imagine getting rid of Jon for a whole year is going to go down too well if that's the case.
Those are plain lies, clearly. In either case I'm not too fussed about what's in the media, it's turned into a joke and they've bought into their own hype spreading false shit like a silly transfer tabloid. Weren't there 'rumors' that people have surely seen Michelle Fairley filming around Belfast and hence Stoneheart being there around the end of this season? It's all fecked up now, best ignore it completely.
I don't see him killing her. I think he'll assume his book role now and try to find Rickon.
Yes, I was utterly confused at the start of that scene. I had certainly expected The Dothraki Sea sea to look a little more like barren wastelands and less like Green Ireland.
Also she must have poor hearing and vision, given that thousands of horses were able to sneak up on her just after she descended from a mountain top.
Well from reading the reddit thread then now we know that Dave Hill is a terrible writer, no wonder the writing in the show has been going down hill fast.
A season of substandard TV, really. Just not a very good show, at this point.
Budget scenes, I think. Season 1 had an accurate choice of location as the sea is supposed to be similar to the steppes. But it's supposed to have grasslands as well, but I doubt they gave a shit. Not barren though, in any case.
I watched bits of season 1 for kicks yesterday, it's not even the same show anymore. That was class.
Yeah, it was such a good show initially. I think Season 4 was when it started going downhill, but Season 5 has been the worst.
Those comments must simplify the situation, surely? It's absolutely ridiculous otherwise.
That Reddit thread is quite good. Dave Hill must be a plonker This was great:
Someone's reply to it:
Someone's reply to it:
@akash02 As an aside, I think at this point I may only be watching this show because GRRM is taking too damn long with the rest of the books. Jon's stabbing makes absolutely no sense in the show (I've always thought it was a bit suspect in the novels but at least you can see the reasoning behind it following the pink letter).
brilliant.