Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

Milisandra is certainly bringing Jon back from the brink. I don't see how you can invest so much time and effort into the Watch and Jon just to have him killed by his brothers in a cowardly and unglorified way. I mean where does that leave things? who would be the focal point of story telling for this area in the world.

The most facinating part of the last book was Bran for me.
 
Piggy will sort out the watch for us. He's the hero of the books. We just don't know it yet.
 
Not sure if it was mentioned, but it's been renewed for series 3, 10 episodes again.

Thankfully, they've confirmed it'll cover the first half of ASOS, which is great, as it means all 1,600 pages won't be crammed in. We'll basically have 20 episodes for the best book :devil:
 
Someone mentioned it in the TV thread. I'm all for a season being less than one book. I imagine that this season might be one of the worse seasons because they realized how much they were cramming into 10 episodes. A lot of stuff goes missing. That's just a pure guess from me based on the first 2 episodes and the fact that ASOS will be 2 seasons.
 
Snow said:
Piggy will sort out the watch for us. He's the hero of the books. We just don't know it yet.
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I'd love that even if it would be a little hollywood :lol: He's probably the only underdog in the series really so wouldn't be surprising if he is one of the main heroes in the end.
 
I'm wondering if they are going to make season 2 feel as grim as the book felt when reading it - especially Arya's journey with the treatment of the captives by Ser Gregor's men, the anecdote of one of his soldiers about the rape in the Inn, the bit where the Lannisters get attacked by the smallfolk and the attack on Lolly's. Some of these bits were pretty shocking reading
 
Crustanoid said:
I'm wondering if they are going to make season 2 feel as grim as the book felt when reading it - especially Arya's journey with the treatment of the captives by Ser Gregor's men, the anecdote of one of his soldiers about the rape in the Inn, the bit where the Lannisters get attacked by the smallfolk and the attack on Lolly's. Some of these bits were pretty shocking reading
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It's HBO. If it's shocking, the writers might actually feel pressured to leave it in. They came as close as they possibly could to showing a baby getting slaughtered on screen.
 
I don't think they'll show the Mountain that much. He'll probably be more talked about. Perhaps a little montage of them dragging out people, stabbing a man or two and torching some houses but it's not integral the story to show a lot of it.
They must know that Arya is a big book fan favorite so she shouldn't be cut out much of the show. The actress is good enough to handle the screen time.
 
3rd episode wasn't epic. The whole Arya scenario was disappointing. No fighting behind walls, the three caged men are still nothing to the story. The fact that he a nose isn't missing and the teeth are fine means that they don't matter to the show from the character point of view because when they return no one will recognize them that hasn't written the book.

Also, where's The Mountain? I think it was him on the horse but he didn't look big at all and hasn't been named at all in this season. He's supposed to stand out like the main Uruk-Hai in the LOTR movies.
There's too much good stuff being left out. Instead they have that Renyl-Loras Renly-Margaery scene just to show that they aren't afraid of showing gay stuff or nudity yet it matters so little to the plot. Wasn't even mentioned in the books, only hinted. It was a long scene about nothing because he's gonna die very soon anyways and Loras doesn't have many lines in the book at all. They've really outgayed him to much.
 
They have to stay in budget. It was Lorch, who was the man who actually attacked the holdfast they were staying in. Gendry and Arya escaped and weren't captured until later when they were caught by Polliver and that group of the Mountain's men.

The Mountain and Amory Lorch were laying waste to the Riverlands. They changed it a bit, but the Mountain doesn't show up until later after they're captured trying to save Gendry, who was captured. I think he comes in while they're torturing people trying to find Beric(who also hasn't been mentioned).

They didn't show Rorge or Biter very much, mostly Jaqen. Most likely, when they end up in Harrenhal, Jaqen will thank her for saving them, etc. So most people should pick it up.

I agree that they've made some stuff too overt though.

Edric Storm has to come up soon since Davos will take Melisandre to Storm's End. They can't really leave him out. That's the whole reason the man(Penrose or someting) refuses to let Stannis take the castle.
 
Sir Matt said:
They have to stay in budget. It was Lorch, who was the man who actually attacked the holdfast they were staying in. Gendry and Arya escaped and weren't captured until later when they were caught by Polliver and that group of the Mountain's men.

The Mountain and Amory Lorch were laying waste to the Riverlands. They changed it a bit, but the Mountain doesn't show up until later after they're captured trying to save Gendry, who was captured. I think he comes in while they're torturing people trying to find Beric(who also hasn't been mentioned).

They didn't show Rorge or Biter very much, mostly Jaqen. Most likely, when they end up in Harrenhal, Jaqen will thank her for saving them, etc. So most people should pick it up.

I agree that they've made some stuff too overt though.

Edric Storm has to come up soon since Davos will take Melisandre to Storm's End. They can't really leave him out. That's the whole reason the man(Penrose or someting) refuses to let Stannis take the castle.
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He was mentioned in Season 1, when Eddard ordered him to find the Mountain.

Obviously, there's a budget to be kept here, we can't have everything. The likes of the missing (missing) nose is pretty easy to explain. It's probably more expensive than it's worth to do it by CGI or otherwise. Jaqen is the really important one of the group, and he'll get his screen time.
 
Ah, ok. I forgot about that. I knew he hadn't been mentioned yet in the new season. I'm sure he and the Brotherhood Without Banners will pop up next episode.
 
Like people have said, it doesn't have a massive budget, I'd prefer if the sets and such looked real and authentic rather than being sacrificed for the odd battle here and there.

The Loras-Renly-Margaery stuff is a bit needless though. Saying that, when I saw Margaery I was like "shit, she's hot, pity she's playing Margaery so we won't get to see her baps!" :D

(she's nearly 30 years old though, bit mental)
 
I think it's time constraints as much as budget. The show's mainly for those who haven't read the books which means it'll be restructured to meet the expectations of a TV audience.

I can foresee a lot of annoying omissions but I accept that as part of having read the books.
 
Smores said:
I think it's time constraints as much as budget. The show's mainly for those who haven't read the books which means it'll be restructured to meet the expectations of a TV audience.

I can foresee a lot of annoying omissions but I accept that as part of having read the books.
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I thought they condensed the Arya capture storyline quite well.
 
Cina said:
Like people have said, it doesn't have a massive budget, I'd prefer if the sets and such looked real and authentic rather than being sacrificed for the odd battle here and there.

The Loras-Renly-Margaery stuff is a bit needless though. Saying that, when I saw Margaery I was like "shit, she's hot, pity she's playing Margaery so we won't get to see her baps!" :D

(she's nearly 30 years old though, bit mental)
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Which will make her marriage to Tommen slightly more creepy.
 
That's the creepy part? You are all fantasizing about a 14 year old nude girl on tellie.
 
It's not bollocks. When you read the book first it sticks with you. You don't convert your thinking over to the TV show. You pick up on everything that's different.

The marriage bit isn't creepy at all since it won't be consummated. They don't even kiss. At least in the book they don't. HBO might have her walk around naked at all times and give him a blowjob.
 
I'm still confused as to what your actual point is.

And who are you to tell me how I view the books/TV show? If I think of Tyrion now, even if I'm reading the books, I'm picturing Peter Dinklage. Even though he doesn't fit the physical description past being really quite short. Same with many others, like Jamie. Hell, even Bran, Theon, Jon, Eddard, Arya, etc, even though there's a fairly large age gap between the books and the TV series.
 
niMic said:
I'm still confused as to what your actual point is.

And who are you to tell me how I view the books/TV show? If I think of Tyrion now, even if I'm reading the books, I'm picturing Peter Dinklage. Even though he doesn't fit the physical description past being really quite short. Same with many others, like Jamie. Hell, even Bran, Theon, Jon, Eddard, Arya, etc, even though there's a fairly large age gap between the books and the TV series.
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So how you do you picture Dany when reading the books?
 
Cina said:
This makes no sense at all. Clearly the characters have different ages in the book and the TV show.
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Sure they're different but when you read Harry Potter don't you picture Daniel Radcliffe playing him? Isn't Sean Bean Ned Stark in your mind? How about Dany? What does 14 year old Dany look like?
 
niMic said:
She looks like a 14 year old Dany. I still have no idea where you're going with this. Are you just trying to make us forget your bizarre post that started this?
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That Margaery marrying Tommen is creepy. I don't see why. I don't remember his age in the show or the books but he won't get married yet because of his age and therefor it shouldn't be creepy. That's less than what happens in the real world, both in Asia and Africa.

Who here doesn't have an opinion on the actress playing Sansa?

You said it yourself, when you picture someone when reading the book you picture them like how they look in the show (for the most part). The description of her in Game of Thrones are pretty specific and her brother speaks about her sexually and we know when we read it that she's 14.

You can't compare that shit that goes on there to how we think about things now. That way pretty much everything is creepy or gross. That marriage is not in any way special in that aspect. I find all the marriages to the Freys be creepier the way Martin writes them. Or even more, the Boltons.

That's my point.
 
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