So impressive that he came third in a two-horse race
I'd say that's more impressive than a manager who got the last club he managed in England relegated.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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I'd say that's more impressive than a manager who got the last club he managed in England relegated.
Totally comparable
Not really bothered by him going somewhere else. Don't see what all the fuss is about, he only took spurs a bit further than Redknapp and Jol did. There was a lot more done in the back ground for him at Southampton too that helped player performance levels for his time there.
He clearly had his Spurs players burnt out by the end of his tenure. Maybe part of that was down to the lack of transfers but a lot it was his high intensity training and playing style. Look how much fresher they look under Jose's more relaxed pressing style.
He clearly had his Spurs players burnt out by the end of his tenure. Maybe part of that was down to the lack of transfers but a lot it was his high intensity training and playing style. Look how much fresher they look under Jose's more relaxed pressing style.
Or taking a leaf of out the Fergie book, a squad needs a refresh after 3/4 years
Even if United drew against Istanbul, that point wouldn't have been enough. They needed a point off PSG or RBL. The group saw zero draws, which was odd. Even if United beat Istanbul twice, three teams would have been on 12 points and then it would have gone to tiebreaker.
Anywho, you also have mentioned context re: Poch and you nor anyone else has mentioned Levy. He is has be front and center of Spurs becoming a better and more stable club before, during, and after their transition from WHL to Spurs Stadium.
Ole might not be good enough to bring trophies to United such as the league or European trophy. But he'll leave the club in a better situation with better players than he found it. It's then up to the club to make the hire after him and win. Gradual and smart steps are being taken.
There it came. Just waiting.
How about Pochettinho getting Espanyol relegated with good team?
Feel for @Amadaeus. The dream is dead
Merry Christmas mate.
Also - he didnt get Espanyol relegated but let's not spoil it.He inherited a very good and upcoming core of players. In the league, his points total year over year since it's height declined each successive year. CL run was fantastic but that's the magic and allure for any cup run. He and his team weren't able to kick on, plus there had been previous clashes with Levy before that.
He was given 5 and half years at Spurs. Ole's been at United for approximately half that.
Poch is a good manager and it was a great fit with Spurs. However Poch had very good players, not like it was some chaps thrown together last minute. Lloris, Vertongen, Toby A, Kane, Son, Walker, Trippier, peak Eriksen and Dele, etc.
When he left them they were in relegation. Last. They changed manager and that saved them. With Poch they were pretty much relegated.Merry Christmas mate.
Merry Christmas!
Pot and kettleThe number in your username must be your age
you add nothing to the conversation, you're a Phelan
and blind as a bat if you cannot see any improvement.
Good move for him and us tbh, he'll no doubt be available again in a couple of years time by which time hopefully he'll know what it takes to win some trophies
If you did indeed look at the bigger picture, you would see that we have improved considerably during Ole's time here.
It's just blind hatred and spouting vitriol in every one of your posts.
fecking outstanding that he goes to PSG. Was never a good option even if Ole got the sack. Great news!!
The Spurs board really let him down. He wanted Bruno and Grealish. He was really pushing hard. Can you imagine if they had them both?
Spurs would have been like an all time great team if they didnt fail Poch.
Spurs would have been like an all time great team if they didnt fail Poch.
No one wanted him?
Alternatively, if Spurs board had that kind of resources, they wouldn't have hired someone low key like Poch.
It is all a speculation. If that and if this. Maybe you are right, maybe you are not.
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Pretty much relegated after 11 games? Ok mate! Hope Santa comes.
If you can say that Solskjaer relegated Cardiff when he had half season. Then you can say Pochettino did that to with Espanyol.
Santa always comes.
There are numerous very detailed responses in the thread - including one on the previous page - that explain it. Why bother repeating it over and over when it's obvious they don't agree?
Will Dortmund take him back though? Doubt it
But who has actually managed to win a league title with a team that hadn't done so for 100 years. Not a bad achievement that, even if it was in Norway. More of an achievement than being an also-ran.
A little unfair when you think what he had to begin with, and how he's changed things for us. Especially if you consider the overall projection of improvement
It's not the finished article but we're in a better shape now vs when he took over
When he took it looked like we needed a lot of additions and a lot of sales
Now it looks like we need maybe 2/3 signings and maybe 1 or 2 sales
And given the age of the squad we won't have to do this every year (of course the purchase of Bruno was key and significant in this)
We would have beaten Leipzig on tiebreaker if we had beaten Istanbul. Losing to them was the killer blow and that was unacceptable.
It wasnt a lot of resources. Grealish was only worth 25 million at the time. Spurs didnt wanna pay that much.
Poch is not low key clearly. If not Paris then Madrid would have hired him.
He is the cream of the crop. The hottest commodity on the market as far as coaches. The first one any big team would be looking at except I guess Barcelona but thats another story.
Some people just cant take it and resist the urge, love to see it.
If he was such a hot commodity, he wouldn't have been unemployed for so long.
Still dont get this bizarre fascination with him. Some of our fans are just plain weird.
Not now. I am talking about the year Spurs got him from Soton
Pot and kettle
and blind as a bat if you cannot see any improvement.
Atrocious home form and humiliating exit in the CL, yeah there's definite improvement ..
Thanks for the nice words
I don't get it either. I understand that people think in terms of "If he could do that at Spurs, imagine what he would do here".
But it is all speculation. Some people seem to be so sure about everything Poch.
One of the best records in the league during 2020. Not bad at all, eh?Atrocious home form and humiliating exit in the CL, yeah there's definite improvement ..
Thanks for the nice words
The only club he couldnt have gone is Barca.
Look at it this way though. PSG hired him. If us or Madrid fired our coach he would have been the first one we would both hire.
He was the hottest commodity and it was onlh a matter of time before the top club in the world hires him. Happened to be Paris, not us or Madrid. The list of clubs that are at that level isnt exactly large. You are talking about 7 or 8 clubs or so.
Point is, one point wasn't enough based on how the group played out. I don't agree that losing was unacceptable, but it was immensely disappointing how they lost going down 3 goals then somehow giving themselves an improbable chance.
Given what Poch had, he should have been able to deliver some silver ware via one of the cups or Europa league.
Not sure the PSG job is a good fit though, given the exectations, divas and possibly limited spending. Ligue 1 also seems to be more competitive with Lyon, Marseille, Rennes and Lille looking decent.
If he fails at PSG, that would really dent his resume
He clearly did a good job at Spurs but he absolutely had a team good enough to win the league in 15/16 and 16/17. That he didn't do so doesn't make him an abject failure or anything, but it does mean he's not perfect or even certain to deliver silverware for United in a league I feel is more competitive and at a time where our ability to add talent in the transfer market is more limited.
I also wonder about how much of Spurs decline was down to not replacing core pieces in the side who were sold or declined, and how much was down to teams adapting to and familiarizing themselves with their established play style under Poch. It certainly felt his last 1.5 seasons on the job that they had dropped a level which the CL run helped mask.
Good luck to him at PSG but I've not ever been convinced he was a no-brainer choice for United, just a good option we should consider if/when we decide Ole can't take us any further, a point I personally don't think we've reached yet.
I also wonder about how much of Spurs decline was down to not replacing core pieces in the side who were sold or declined, and how much was down to teams adapting to and familiarizing themselves with their established play style under Poch. It certainly felt his last 1.5 seasons on the job that they had dropped a level which the CL run helped mask.
Good luck to him at PSG but I've not ever been convinced he was a no-brainer choice for United, just a good option we should consider if/when we decide Ole can't take us any further, a point I personally don't think we've reached yet.
Sorry Alex, absolute rubbish. If it was that easy, the likes of Everton and Wolves would have done it once, nevermind every singles season!
It’s the most underrated job in PL history I think. To measure it just by position and say “well he had Kane”, is ridiculous.