Which is why comparing them both from the time he arrived is the most fair thing to do, even though Poch had been in charge for 5 years and bought 27 players in that time. How can Ole be held responsible for what the previous manager did? I need to explain to you why Mourinho is doing ok with the players that Pochettino had been in charge of for 5 years and couldn't get a tune out of?
Then if we're being fair you should take reaching the CL final into account. That was no small feat - and to some extent explains the drop-off in the league.
Most oppo fans will be very happy if you stick with Ole and pass over any chance of getting Pochettino.
Might just be me, but the achievement of reaching a final kind of loses its "glory" when you see such a spineless performance in the biggest game in the club's history. Didn't even look like they wanted to win it, and they were never close. Not to mention that there was a huge element of luck involved in that run leading to the final as you were margins away from being knocked out several times (group stages, quarter and semi-finals).
Most oppo fans were scared to shit over Mourinho coming here, means absolutely nothing. Ole has sacrificed short-term success for the better of the club and has done a good job so far in trying to rectify the mistakes that's been done over the last 6-7 years. If he manages to get us into the CL next season with the injuries we've had this season, I really couldn't care less about Pochettino.
I never fell asleep watching Ole's team.
The other two?
Yeah. I did.
Might just be me, but the achievement of reaching a final kind of loses its "glory" when you see such a spineless performance in the biggest game in the club's history. Didn't even look like they wanted to win it, and they were never close. Not to mention that there was a huge element of luck involved in that run leading to the final as you were margins away from being knocked out several times (group stages, quarter and semi-finals).
Most oppo fans were scared to shit over Mourinho coming here, means absolutely nothing. Ole has sacrificed short-term success for the better of the club and has done a good job so far in trying to rectify the mistakes that's been done over the last 6-7 years. If he manages to get us into the CL next season with the injuries we've had this season, I really couldn't care less about Pochettino.
Doesnt mean that the play isnt boringHahaha... so true...I fell asleep many times watching LVG and Mourinho games...
There is something about the current team that I care about. Maybe it is the youth players progressing month after month.
I feel like there are things I can look forward to like the addition of players, the improvement of play and skills.
For now, I can't wait for Pogba to come back and join forces with Bruno and Fred.
It makes it hard to win when a dubious penalty is awarded against you a mere 30 seconds into the game: you're quick to cite "luck" in reaching the final, but then ignore this bad luck in the final.
It is boring.Doesnt mean that the play isnt boring
The big thing for me is that he was never able to get his team up for the big fight. As some one else put it they never had the X factor to beat the big teams.
That's man management. That's crucial that's what gets you over the line in a situation where the teams are evenly matched. He is essentially a very Spurs-y manager. Lads it's Pochettino.
Ole for me is able to make his team more than the sum of its parts. He gets them up for the big fight. Which will be crucial when we are back in the QF+SF of the CL, fighting for the title. He's done this with basically someone else's team and created a really strong bond amongst the squad. (A massive difference to this time last year)
Just think what he will do with a few more of his own players? Why would we wreck this progress by bringing in Mr Runner up?
Mauricio Pochettino is the best manager in football.
Let’s be honest, Mourinho is not a bad manager. But seeing him struggle with this Spurs team that Pochettino took to champions league final, top of the premier league according to xg and top four consecutively, shows how underestimated Pochettino is as a manager.
Spurs fan now fully understands what they lost now.
Could they do a Monaco? Fire Jardim, hire Henry, fire Henry, hire Jardim. And then Monaco fires Jardim again!Poch will be going back to Spurs at this rate.
Could they do a Monaco? Fire Jardim, hire Henry, fire Henry, hire Jardim. And then Monaco fires Jardim again!
The only thing if they did is the amount they’d spend sacking Poch then Jose would be huge.Could they do a Monaco? Fire Jardim, hire Henry, fire Henry, hire Jardim. And then Monaco fires Jardim again!
Once it's broken, it's broken. I hope so anyway!Yes except Poch will do good again I think.
Sorry to bump up, i have to admit he is a class manager and a wonderful motivator. What he achieved last season without any summer signings was a miracle.
Last season was a fluke for them to get to the CL final like Di Matteo winning it for Chelsea. Pochettino's good work was in the previous years at spurs, but they were shite last season and they were just as bad under Poch this season. Only difference is they have 2 injuries to the only players who know how to score goals for them and they've fully collapsed as a result now.Sorry to bump up, i have to admit he is a class manager and a wonderful motivator. What he achieved last season without any summer signings was a miracle.
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Yeah, that sounds like something Levy would do. I'd tell him to feck off
I am fully on support of what Ole is currently doing at the club, but would be lieing if I didn't appriciate your sentiment. How long of a contract did we give Ole? Also, what are the chances of Ole moving into more of a sporting director role, as his biggest plus for me has been his recruiment strategy and desire to have a certain mental aspect when joining the club.I like where we’re going under Ole but there’s always this nagging feeling that we should just act without sentiment and just go and get him. I sort of hope he’d just hurry up and join Bayern or something so it’s not even an option anymore.
Hmm...
Think we gave Ole 3 years, so until 2022. The middle part of his reign was dire, yet we finally seem to be gaining some real momentum. However if we acted ruthlessly and moved him upstairs for Poch now, there would always be a question mark over Ole's tenure, espeically if Poch failed. We should have stuck with the plan etc.I am fully on support of what Ole is currently doing at the club, but would be lieing if I didn't appriciate your sentiment. How long of a contract did we give Ole? Also, what are the chances of Ole moving into more of a sporting director role, as his biggest plus for me has been his recruiment strategy and desire to have a certain mental aspect when joining the club.
Not by any means advocting that I want Ole replaced, but the last 18 months there have been an awful lot of fingers pointing to Poch eventually being here. What are your thoughts?
When he first took the job on in December 2018? Yes, since that was his brief. Fill in for 6 months while we look for the right guy/size up a move for Poch. But now I think he'd be well within his rights to kick off. As I say, it wouldn't sit right with me if we did that. Sacking him altogether is one thing, but expecting him to work alongside the guy you were demoted for? Nah.People thinking Ole would just move to a DOF for another person are well, I dunno, wishfully thinking? Would you want to go to a lower position for someone else?
Even so, we'd essentially be saying to him "You know that job we trusted you to do 12 months ago? Well it hasn't worked out. We'd like to remove you from it and give it someone we think could do it better."Moving to DOF wouldn't be a demotion. Head coaches sit beneath a DOF in the hierarchy as it's the DOF who calls the shots on hiring/firing head coaches.
Even so, we'd essentially be saying to him "You know that job we trusted you to do 12 months ago? Well it hasn't worked out. We'd like to remove you from it and give it someone we think could do it better."
Hard not to think of that as a demotion.
Safe to assume we have abandoned this haven't we?
