A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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Trying to imagine the fallout if Utd allow Pochattino go to City.
Ed, stop faffing about, pay Spurs the Pochettino contract clause and sign him up.
Only we could feck something so simple up. Finishing 5th, getting Poch and then Sancho should be the only plan this club has but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that isn’t even crossing their dumb little minds.
It's ok if you think Pochettino is not up to task to manage United. What isn't ok is to pretend like Ole is anywhere near the level as Poch.
We have the luxury of Poch and Brendan. One is jobless, the other one will jump quickly at the chance of managing a bigger club. And here We are sitting iddly, with our legend struggling to reach top 4..
Why are you all panicking about Poch? He'll be here in the summer. Chill.
I can imagine these stories of Poch to City will do a lot to push fans off the fence about Ole. It would be a canny move by our Chief Executive (and his PR assistant) to leak such a story in order to get public opinion on his side [/tinfoilhat]
Yeah, people are clamouring for a manager who’s won absolutely nothing...
If Solskjaer does get fired we should wait until the summer and asses our options. Panic appointing Pochettino just because City are considering speaking to him is very stupid.
Kin hell crossy, you can't be that blind...
• The last time Espanyol won a major honour: 2006 (Poch was an Espanyol player)
• The last time Southampton won a major honour: 1976 (Poch was 4)
• The last time Tottenham won a major honour: 1991 (Poch was 19 years old)
Now where exactly was he expected to win that major honour in that list of incredible serial winners? Surely the only criteria these clubs had at the time of his hiring was:
• Espanyol - save us from relegation, then make us comfortable in the league
• Southampton - make us a top 10 side
• Spurs - make us a Champions League regular
Looking at that criteria you surely know that he overachieved at Spurs in particular? He not only made them a CL regular but took them to 2nd in the Premier League and 2nd in the Champions League which was beyond Levy and any Spurs fans wildest dreams when he took the job. Swapping that CL final appearance out for a single FA Cup win does nothing for me, one is a clearly a much greater achievement.
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Never a fan of waiting until the summer myself.
Getting them in now enables them to lay the groundwork for the summer and also gets the inevitable "Need to see what they can do for myself" chances that Jones, Lingard etc get, out of the way.
If you do the deal early, the new man can already be watching closely, getting scouting reports daily etc.
I wouldn't bring in anyone now, would much prefer them to work with a clean slate.
Actually it was 2007-08, but still a long while ago.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Woodward is working behind the scenes to get this done without announcing it like with Mourinho.
I’d be really interested to see how Poch gets on here if he does come, it’s a different challenge with different pressure than his other jobs.
I’d be really interested to see how Poch gets on here if he does come, it’s a different challenge with different pressure than his other jobs.
I can see this happening, Ole is not going to finish top 8, he has to get the sack.
I can’t see you sacking Ole before the summer.
Ole probably won't be sacked before the summer, but I expect Poch to have already been approached, probably last month. The wheels will already be in motion. There's too many question marks over what the hell is happening at City, I think we'll get him.
Improvement on Ole, without a doubt, but I'd still say I have reservations. Clearly a step in the right direction though.
Improvement on Ole, without a doubt, but I'd still say I have reservations. Clearly a step in the right direction though.
Not sure about the maths there.
Why are people worried Poch would opt to take over a league 2 team like City and not Us ?
hahhaha, I think I wrote the first one before checking his DOB, then forgot to edit it. haha.
Ok, he was 4 when Southampton last won a major honour.
Bravo. I hate it when people say Poch hasn't won anything. It about where he got the team from when he started to when he left. Spurs were in a much better position when he left the club and he had spent nothing in modern terms on transfers.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good manager and he’s done some good things at the clubs he’s worked at, but so was Marco Silva at one point and not to mention every single 30-something German manager.
I’m just not convinced that we’ve got the right environment for a manager like Pochettino to succeed, I’ll gladly be proven wrong though should he get the job.
I stand by the window nothing comment though, whether it’s him or the players he’s managed, they always seem to absolutely bottle it during crunch times and a Spurs supporting mate of mine said his game management isn’t on par with the best managers around.
We’ll see though, whatever happens next happens.
Exactly, yet the same people will say hire Rose or Nagglesman too.
Poch has never been tasked to winning a trophy, does that mean he can't?
They definitely won’t because they fall hugely in the same bracket
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he'll come here and do a Klopp, that much no-one can be sure of. However, if we had to place a £10,000 bet on who'd take us to loftier positions out of Poch and OGS if both were our managers for the next 3 years, I think even the most ardent of Ole backers would bet on the man from Argentina.
The only place he "failed" in any sense of the word to win a trophy was Spurs, but he's a victim of his own success there as no-one would have expected him to win anything when he took over.
This is the caf, you'd be surprised. It is too soon to take any risk on Nagglesman who is young, Poch is tried and tested in the PL for getting the best out the teams.
Who do you want then? Ole is way out of his depth. Klopp and Pep can never sign for us. Conte and Simeone may bring success but they sign old players with a very different style to what United want. You are then left with Poch and maybe 3/4 others.
Sorry what has Poch won exactly? He's a bluffer who moves on or gets moved on. He's Mr Potential, he's not actually achieved anything. Him and Ole have the same amount of PL titles. Ole has actually won leagues before. Yes he got Cardiff relegated but Klopp got his first side relegated too. Ole is very early in his career, Poch is midway through and has nothing to show for it.
So keeping Ole is better than Poch?
Poch is clearly the better coach, this was seen at Southampton when he got them playing and Spurs.
He managed Southampton and Spurs, 2 clubs that haven't won anything in a long while.
What is your alternative? keep Ole and finished 10th every season?
You’re trolling right?
Ole started his coaching career the year before Poch did!
Sure @Fletchageddon
OGS - first managerial role 2008
Poch - first managerial role 2009
OSG finest achievement - Norwegian league winner
Poch finest achievement - Champions League and Premier League runner up.
I could go deeper into debunking this silly post, but i'll keep it simple:
United haven't had one single genuine title challenge since Sir Alex left. Not one. Every season has been a write-off by October.
Pochettino had several title challenges with Spurs, who i don't remember having a single title challenge in my lifetime before he took charge. And he took them to the latest CL Final.
His style of football was better than anything we've seen for 7 years too.
Goes to show how seriously people take Ole’s Norway career.
What is Poch exactly expected to win with Spurs in a era where Pep’s Man City and Klopp’s Liverpool exist?
As a start, What about either Pochettino or Nigelsmann with Ralf Ragnick or Campos as Director of Football?
I still think Ole can cut it if you look at his record against top teams, If he can sign few creative players I think we can make progress overall.
OLE V Poch, Tactically Ole was on top. Isnt it ? so I am confused on this as my mind says replace Ole but heart says give him one more year.
I still think Ole can cut it if you look at his record against top teams, If he can sign few creative players I think we can make progress overall.
OLE V Poch, Tactically Ole was on top. Isnt it ? so I am confused on this as my mind says replace Ole but heart says give him one more year.
Personally, and this won’t be a popular pick, but I’d go Bielsa under the condition that he gets a minimum of three full seasons.
We don’t have a DOF so swapping managers every two years is a complete waste of everyone’s time and weakens our squad in the end.
Yes. If he's not performing to standard (or if you think you can do even better with someone else) you sack him. We're looking for a coach, not a father figure for our damaged fanbase.
Interesting... I like the guy and think he is a good manager but hes a tad bonkers.
The best generally are a bit mental. I don’t think we’d get more than three years out of him but we’d undoubtably be in a better place for the next manager at that point