90's Serie A - Draft Thread

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Brwned said:
Rui Costa*. Just oozes class.

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I had him on the last draft. It strange that not many seems to rate him, though. As a pure playmaker, I think he's the best in Serie A (after Maradona).
 
I am going to pick Del Piero. His nickname among Juve fans introduces him nicely; "Il Fenomeno Vero" or in English "The Real Phenomenon"

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Only a true great could pull off that look.

zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo

baconlars : 1. Matthäus

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio

rahim10 : 1. Weah

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa

Red head red : 1. Del Piero

Fantech : 1.

Dannymc1309 : 1.

paceme : 1.

AldoRaine18 : 1.

nahealai : 1.

Isotope : 1.
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I sent fantech a pm

Edit: Just noticed the draft seems to be halted. Ill keep this post up though anyway.
 
Isotope said:
I had him on the last draft. It strange that not many seems to rate him, though. As a pure playmaker, I think he's the best in Serie A (after Maradona).
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On the contrary, almost everyone would talk about him when talking about the best players to watch. And he was a household figure in International football as well. And agreed, amazing playmaker.
 
Good news. New players coming in, and we stick with the 90's.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
On the contrary, almost everyone would talk about him when talking about the best players to watch. And he was a household figure in International football as well. And agreed, amazing playmaker.
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Not many rate him, as shown by the lack of individual award. He just stayed too long in Fiorentina.

And good news. New players/posters coming in, and we stick with the 90's.
 
Is it just their performances in Italy in the 90s that mattered or all performances in ITaly?
 
dhm91 said:
Is it just their performances in Italy in the 90s that mattered or all performances in ITaly?
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These posts should answer that.

Fergus' son said:
Zidane has 4 amazing years from 96-2000.

I think that's fine for a draft which takes into consideration a decade. Rules state atleast 40 appearances, Zidane certainly had 40 WC performances at the very least.

Longevity is a factor, but his does it come into play when deciding which team would beat which in a one off game?

'Peak during the 90's in Serie A' is what people should be considering IMO, and then if there's a particularly difficult match up where players can't be separated, then extra conditions such as longevity etc would come into play.
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AldoRaine18 said:
There are two things for every player being picked. His overall career peak and his peak during the 90s. Now, one can say that Ronaldo's best season was for Barca and not much to disagree in that. However, that alone doesn't make him a bad pick. What is more important in this draft is to look at his career in Italy and ask, was it good enough to compete against others who are being picked? Ronaldo, even when not at his career best, would still be better than most strikers who played in Italy during that time, not considering their longevity.

Longevity should be considered. But the balance is important. Everyone doesn't need to have 6-8 seasons in Italy during the 90s under his belt. If he faced enough quality oppositions and showed what he can do sufficient amount of times, it shouldn't be a problem. I don't know about Ronaldo, but Zidane for me as a good pick. I found him better at Juve than he was at Madrid.
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AldoRaine18 said:
Only the performances in Italy in the 90s
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Thanks. I'll go for Franco Baresi.

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zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo

baconlars : 1. Matthäus

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio

rahim10 : 1. Weah

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa

Red head red : 1. Del Piero

Dhm91 : 1. Baresi

Dannymc1309 : 1.

paceme : 1.

AldoRaine18 : 1.

nahealai : 1.

Isotope : 1.
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This is all terribly unfair on whoever replaces rahim10 because chances are he would've went for someone like Baresi over Weah.
 
Sorry i dropped out a while ago, only realised you lot still thought i was involved when i received multiple messages just now..

Quoted my parting message on the other thread. Have fun lads
 
That's the problem why I let them confirm it if the want to play it last draft. So many say yeah I want to play but when it matters all of a sudden they are not showing up.

Yeah if somebody replaces rahim10 he should be able to make his first pick. Many build their team around their first pick.
 
Sorry again lads, i dropped out even before the rules were finalised as i didn't like the way it was going.
 
Anderson18 said:
That's the problem why I let them confirm it if the want to play it last draft. So many say yeah I want to play but when it matters all of a sudden they are not showing up.

Yeah if somebody replaces rahim10 he should be able to make his first pick. Many build their team around their first pick.
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Well now that Dannymc has left, the first newcomer would replace him. Also, if possible rahim should continue. Else as Brwned says it would be unfair on the guy who replaces him.
 
Brwned said:
This is all terribly unfair on whoever replaces rahim10 because chances are he would've went for someone like Baresi over Weah.
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Would you say it is fairer to scrap the old persons choice/position and have a rule where all newcomers go to the end of the list? They have the disadvantage of picking last but someone always has that disadvantage.
 
red head red said:
Would you say it is fairer to scrap the old persons choice/position and have a rule where all newcomers go to the end of the list? They have the disadvantage of picking last but someone always has that disadvantage.
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Let's hold that thought, since rahim10 said if no one new joins in he would try to continue. Would solve the problem if he does.
 
red head red said:
Would you say it is fairer to scrap the old persons choice/position and have a rule where all newcomers go to the end of the list? They have the disadvantage of picking last but someone always has that disadvantage.
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Certainly. I don't think we should be forcing rahim to continue on when he clearly doesn't want to, I think we should just wait for someone else to show some interest.
 
Brwned said:
Certainly. I don't think we should be forcing rahim to continue on when he clearly doesn't want to, I think we should just wait for someone else to show some interest.
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Well, in that case we should also shift Dannymc to the bottom of the list, and continue with the ones who are present. Rahim's and Dannymc's replacements can be the last two in the order and pick whenever they show up.
 
Why dannymc pulled out, again?

So the new list is:

zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo

baconlars : 1. Matthäus

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa

Red head red : 1. Del Piero

Dhm91 : 1. Baresi

paceme : 1.

AldoRaine18 : 1.

nahealai : 1.

Isotope : 1.

(........) : 1.

(........) : 1.
 
No responses for filling up the last two places. Probably people are hesitating to join since they will be at a disadvantage by joining late.

Can we proceed with 14 players?
 
I'll join in. If that's no trouble to you lot.
 
zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo

baconlars : 1. Matthäus

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa

Red head red : 1. Del Piero

Dhm91 : 1. Baresi

paceme : 1. Batistuta

AldoRaine18 : 1. Nesta

nahealai : 1.

Isotope : 1.

KM : 1.

(........) : 1.
 
Re: Picking players like Matthaus. I think it's a tricky and it is not fair to call him a bad pick just because he played only 2 seasons. If he was the best or one of the best in the league during that time, he would be a perfectly valid pick. Take the example of Ronaldinho. If we played a World Draft of the last 20 years, wouldn't we pick him early on? Probably yes. I would be generous in giving him 4 years at his peak, so that is the same or probably less than the percentage Lothar spent in Italy in the draft period (3-4 out of 20 against 2 out of 10). But for Dinho it comes down to the fact that he was undoubtedly the best in the world. So if Lothar was at a similar level in the league in those two years, it would be the same scenario imo.

IMO he spent some of his best years as a proper "midfielder" at Inter. As time went on he turned to a more and more defensive role but he was a commanding midfielder at Inter and contributed in both attack and defense equally well. But still that doesn't answer the question regarding his performances related to the rest of the league.

What is wrong though is mentioning his Ballon D'or. 1) The award was given before the first season of this draft began and 2) It was a WC year, and he captained his team to the trophy. Nothing more needs to be said about why he won the award.
 
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