Not sure tbh.
#9 The Priority For Jose
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Kane scores every kind of goal. I've never heard anyone say that about him!
I think we should look to try and get two strikers, although this take a huge chunk out of the transfer kitty.
Ruud was often called a flat track bully so was Ronaldo for years ... Players are obviously going to do better against poorer teams that doesn't mean they won't do it against the the big teams .
Put Lukaku in a United team and give him the service you would expect from Pogba,Mata Mhki and do and he will score against anyone ..
Shouldn't one be enough with Martial and Rashford around, especially since we are most likely going add a winger, second striker or #10?
We could get Lacazette and Sanchez for the 100m that Greizmann would cost. These two would be a greater improvement on the team.
I don't think Martial is a striker, he's way better out on the wing.
Okay, but 3 strikers for one position? I mean Rashford and your 2 new additions. Seems one too many to me?
I know Mourinho tends to favour having one striker up top but we're very light in that position, when Ibrahimovic got injured it really showed. Also Rooney is likely to leave this summer too. I don't think it's a good idea going into a new season with a new striker and Rashford.
So who are you thinking of?
All of this is from watching Youtube videos (and a few live games) - so naturally my analysis is probably entirely wrong.
But I believe:
Lacazette - All around striker who is able to finish at a high rate and also create goals from nothing. He's not as good at heading the ball or at hold up play, but he's able to create space and physical enough to win one on one matchups if the ball is on the ground. Price feels good and with his move to Atletico falling through, isn't exactly impossible. I don't think if we buy him that we should ONLY buy him. Unless we're okay with waiting for Zlatan to come back I think we'd need someone else as well.
Lukaku - All around bully (not an insult). He's going to hold the ball up. Slower than most other options, but not Zlatan level of speed. First touch is awful. Great with his head and he surprisingly creates more chances for his teammates than I would have thought. "Premier League proven" but his price is insane and would likely be the most expensive signing we make all summer and will dictate how we play for years to come.
Belotti - The best "poacher" of the bunch. Most of his goals appear easy but that's because his positional sense is great and his heading of the ball looks to be one of the best in the world. His price is really high if we have to pay the release clause and feels like he may just be another Chicharito (which isn't bad). That means he's going to go missing a lot and if he's not scoring goals he may be completely irrelevant in games. Also from what I could tell in videos he was just so much stronger than all of his opponents in Seria A which may not necessarily translate to England.
If it was up to me I'd sign Lacazette. Maybe later in the window someone else goes up for sale and we can sign him. He offers the most and isn't as much as an investment as the other two. This would give us: Rashford and Lacazette until January when Zlatan returns. Is that enough to stay in the title chase? Maybe not but I'd rather rely on Zlatan to come back almost as strong and contribute whilst improving the team on the wings and midfield than invest so much in Lukaku/Belotti.
Obviously I don't know our finances or nearly as much about the sport as people working in the club but that's just how I look at it.
But I believe:
Lacazette - All around striker who is able to finish at a high rate and also create goals from nothing. He's not as good at heading the ball or at hold up play, but he's able to create space and physical enough to win one on one matchups if the ball is on the ground. Price feels good and with his move to Atletico falling through, isn't exactly impossible. I don't think if we buy him that we should ONLY buy him. Unless we're okay with waiting for Zlatan to come back I think we'd need someone else as well.
Lukaku - All around bully (not an insult). He's going to hold the ball up. Slower than most other options, but not Zlatan level of speed. First touch is awful. Great with his head and he surprisingly creates more chances for his teammates than I would have thought. "Premier League proven" but his price is insane and would likely be the most expensive signing we make all summer and will dictate how we play for years to come.
Belotti - The best "poacher" of the bunch. Most of his goals appear easy but that's because his positional sense is great and his heading of the ball looks to be one of the best in the world. His price is really high if we have to pay the release clause and feels like he may just be another Chicharito (which isn't bad). That means he's going to go missing a lot and if he's not scoring goals he may be completely irrelevant in games. Also from what I could tell in videos he was just so much stronger than all of his opponents in Seria A which may not necessarily translate to England.
If it was up to me I'd sign Lacazette. Maybe later in the window someone else goes up for sale and we can sign him. He offers the most and isn't as much as an investment as the other two. This would give us: Rashford and Lacazette until January when Zlatan returns. Is that enough to stay in the title chase? Maybe not but I'd rather rely on Zlatan to come back almost as strong and contribute whilst improving the team on the wings and midfield than invest so much in Lukaku/Belotti.
Obviously I don't know our finances or nearly as much about the sport as people working in the club but that's just how I look at it.
Whichever way you swing the Ibra situation he's not going to be around beyond the end of next year at most. So if we don't get a #9 this year we'll need one next year. Lukaku is only 24 and although the price is steep we can chuck Rooney in to get a decent deal around £60m. PL proven 20+ goal a per season strikers don't grow on trees.
I could see him and Radford being very effective as a pair with the right no10 type player behind them... not sure I could see Jose going for that formation though so I suspect we will indeed see martial out on the wing
Rooney will not aid any transfer negotiations. His salary is too insane for Everton and his ability is probably worth a few million at most. If anything we'd be paying half his wages for the rest of his contract just to have Everton even think about taking him on.
Belotti and one other. Kane would be the dream but unrealistic.
Yeah, I am not a Kane fan, but that is a weird comment, he cant stop shooting from anywhere....a bad thing I think often, but a tap in merchant is way wide of the mark
I personally think the opposite. I would love to know the stats on Martials goals per game when he has actually played as a striker for us, as I think it is probably pretty good
Belotti
Lukaku
Moratta
Lacazette
That order for me.
Lukaku
Moratta
Lacazette
That order for me.
Not sure how we would keep those players happy. But I am going to leave it at that.
Belotti is the best option for me because he's the most agile which allows him to break from his marker at just the right moment and still get his foot (or head) to the ball in a critical fashion around the teeth of goal. His goals look easy but you've got to be quick off the mark and agile to accomplish them. His hold up play is underrated because he's deceptively strong. And he has a high work rate.
Despite what may be viewed as an extortionist price, I feel that Lukaku would be the best bet. He really has all the tools. His first touch and dribbling may not be world class, but they're not as bad as has been made out by many. He's tall, physical, good in the air, and fairly fast. He's still very young (probably 5 years from his peak as a striker), and will improve. Based upon his statistics, he's trending in the right direction. He's already proven in the Premier League - a factor which is important when spending that kind of money. I think he would compliment Rashford and Martial very well, and would allow Jose to play his preferred style of football. Most importantly, he scores goals. That's the hardest thing in the game to do, and something we were subpar at last season. I don't see much of a downside.
The other strikers all have their positive attributes as well, and truth be told I'd happily take any of them. I just feel that none represent the guaranteed success that Lukaku does.
The other strikers all have their positive attributes as well, and truth be told I'd happily take any of them. I just feel that none represent the guaranteed success that Lukaku does.
We wouldnt really be discussing it if he'd managed to nail down a position. Thats worrying of itself.
Celtics moussa dembele, a big mourinho esque centre forward ?
Scored 32 goals last year including brace against man city.
Scored 32 goals last year including brace against man city.
Morata/ Lukaku and Dembele from Dortmund. I don't get why anybody is looking to get Dembele. He's as big of a talent as Mbappe (if not more). I don't see a point in bidding 100M for Bale who has been injury prone. Come August, if he's injured. We're gonna be stuck in the same boat as we were with Zlatan out.
Because I doubt Dortmund have any interest in selling him after one season.
Yeah but if we throw enough money at them... say 50-55M, that would be really hard to resist. The guy is an absolute gem.
Apparently he's set on going back to France because all his family etc are there. Like you, I can only assume that we've enquired about him - he's one of the best available. But then again, who knows. Going by mourinhos career to date, maybe he really does only want to build a team around a big CF.
I can't think if we offered more money to Dortmund and Auba, he'd turn us down. So who knows
Don't know why this isn't being talked about more. Maybe we should start a rumour of our own?
As of tonight, i don't think we have a solid no.9 target that is keen to join. None of these supposed rumours are making any sense.
We probably do. The accuracy of the reporting cannot be relied upon. Still early days - none of the strikers we're likely to be interested in have moved clubs.
As crazy as it sound, I don't mind if we only get Vardy as a striker. The rest of the money though, has to go to other attacking positions.
It's all just twitter bullshit. I mean, their not even trying anymore. We'll sign players that Jose wants. I'm sure there will be some that he wanted that we don't sign i.e. Griezmann, but such is life.
I never bought the "Jose is obsessed with Lukaku" bs in the first place. Id much rather us go for Kane for the Lukaku money but I think he'll stay at Spurs since their in the CL.
I don't understand the Belotti hype? Hes had one good season in a poor league, put up against Lacazettes goal record, I don't see how anyone can think he'd be a better signing
I think Morata is a serious target for us. I don't know whether he'll sign for us or not, but I'm guessing he's our major target after the Griezmann thing.
Isn't Zlatan staying? I know he's injured now but seems to think he'll be back sooner than everyone expects? I would have thought CL qualification would secure him 1 more year.
Maybe this has been asked already, but there is almost no talk of Kane leaving.
Why is this? I know Spurs are in a good position and don't need to sell. I know Kane seems happy and I know it would take a world record bid. I also know that Levy would rather chop his balls off than sell to United.
But, nothing is impossible.
We have the cash to at least bring Spurs to the table. We have the cash and the CL football and the manager to at least turn Kane's head.
He's a young, English, premier league proven, phenomenal goal scorer. He's like a young Alan Shearer. We tried and failed to sign him. We should at least try to sign this guy.
Why is this? I know Spurs are in a good position and don't need to sell. I know Kane seems happy and I know it would take a world record bid. I also know that Levy would rather chop his balls off than sell to United.
But, nothing is impossible.
We have the cash to at least bring Spurs to the table. We have the cash and the CL football and the manager to at least turn Kane's head.
He's a young, English, premier league proven, phenomenal goal scorer. He's like a young Alan Shearer. We tried and failed to sign him. We should at least try to sign this guy.
Dzeko on the cheap for a few seasons until Rashford\Martial are ready?
Fits the profile Jose want and has just had a brilliant season with 39 goals and 15 assists in 51 matches for Roma.
Being 31 years old he wouldn't get in the way of Rashford's development either, he would be good for two seasons or so.
Fits the profile Jose want and has just had a brilliant season with 39 goals and 15 assists in 51 matches for Roma.
Being 31 years old he wouldn't get in the way of Rashford's development either, he would be good for two seasons or so.
If Madrid want €90m for that donkey Morata, I don't even want to know how much Levy would ask for Kane.
Put in a bid of £110m and leak to the press a £350k a week wage for Harry.
That would get the ball rolling. Turn Kane's head. Test Spurs' resolve. Very few players are unattainable given our financial muscle.
You sound crazy